These are Nestle executives-- not line workers. Most of these guys are making high six figures. They are going to send their kids to private or will live in McLean. They aren't going to give a flip about the future of APS.

Re: Long Bridge Park-- even if you could clean up the environmental issues, the property is on the flight path from DCA which you can't change. Here's an older article from WaPo with some history about the site:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/arlingtons-long-bridge-park-goes-from-pcbs-and-trash-to-soccer-fields-and-cherry-trees/2011/11/22/gIQAEPDJMO_story.html?utm_term=.c4592aa9229a

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not forget that Nestle is coming soon to Rosslyn with 750 jobs, of all sorts . It's reasonable to assume many of these people will try to live in Lyon Village or similar areas--or wherever in Arlington. The overcrowding at ASFS/Key, especially, will be unsustainable.

A good portion of them are from Ohio so they will be experiencing major sticker shock.

Really? Why did I think they were coming from CA?

Either way, it may not be a fair assumption. Why would folks from Nestle not have as many varying desires for neighborhoods and homes than anyone else? As we already know on DCUM, some people favor more land or a bigger house, or alternatively a city-based life. Don't get me wrong, I love Lyon Village and can't afford it, but that doesn't mean everyone and their brother wants to live there.

Heck, plenty of DCUM wouldn't consider it because shockingly it feeds into that sub-par W-L high school.

I didn't mean to suggest that because of where they're coming from they won't prioritize different things. Just that the sticker shock will probably be less pronounced if they're moving from CA than OH. But yeah, most aren't going to be able to move into $2 million new construction in Lyon Village, even if that's what they'd prefer. Some might decide to try out more urban living in highrise condos or townhomes in the R-B corridor, but I'm sure some will move further out and commute in so they can have a bigger house/yard. And maybe some will even venture into south Arlington, if DCUM hasn't convinced them it's like Compton in the early 90's. I mean, I've heard from a couple difference military families who've been in public/charter schools in CA, and even south Arlington schools come out ahead by comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not forget that Nestle is coming soon to Rosslyn with 750 jobs, of all sorts . It's reasonable to assume many of these people will try to live in Lyon Village or similar areas--or wherever in Arlington. The overcrowding at ASFS/Key, especially, will be unsustainable.

A good portion of them are from Ohio so they will be experiencing major sticker shock.

Really? Why did I think they were coming from CA?

1,100 from Glendale, CA, about 300 from OH.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there really nothing that can be done to build a high school at Long Bridge site? I know about the environmental concerns and proximity to DCA, but are these absolutely not resolvable, even at a hefty price tag? The SB doesn't own the land so that's another huge hurdle but I think a HS on the east side would make more sense than Kenmore/VHS.

It is not an option.

meaning what, exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's not forget that Nestle is coming soon to Rosslyn with 750 jobs, of all sorts . It's reasonable to assume many of these people will try to live in Lyon Village or similar areas--or wherever in Arlington. The overcrowding at ASFS/Key, especially, will be unsustainable.

A good portion of them are from Ohio so they will be experiencing major sticker shock.

Really? Why did I think they were coming from CA?

Either way, it may not be a fair assumption. Why would folks from Nestle not have as many varying desires for neighborhoods and homes than anyone else? As we already know on DCUM, some people favor more land or a bigger house, or alternatively a city-based life. Don't get me wrong, I love Lyon Village and can't afford it, but that doesn't mean everyone and their brother wants to live there.

Heck, plenty of DCUM wouldn't consider it because shockingly it feeds into that sub-par W-L high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not forget that Nestle is coming soon to Rosslyn with 750 jobs, of all sorts . It's reasonable to assume many of these people will try to live in Lyon Village or similar areas--or wherever in Arlington. The overcrowding at ASFS/Key, especially, will be unsustainable.

A good portion of them are from Ohio so they will be experiencing major sticker shock.

Really? Why did I think they were coming from CA?

Anonymous wrote:Is there really nothing that can be done to build a high school at Long Bridge site? I know about the environmental concerns and proximity to DCA, but are these absolutely not resolvable, even at a hefty price tag? The SB doesn't own the land so that's another huge hurdle but I think a HS on the east side would make more sense than Kenmore/VHS.

It is not an option.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not forget that Nestle is coming soon to Rosslyn with 750 jobs, of all sorts . It's reasonable to assume many of these people will try to live in Lyon Village or similar areas--or wherever in Arlington. The overcrowding at ASFS/Key, especially, will be unsustainable.

A good portion of them are from Ohio so they will be experiencing major sticker shock.

Teardowns in Lyon Village are now $1 million. Nestle folks are going to be living in Vienna.

Is there really nothing that can be done to build a high school at Long Bridge site? I know about the environmental concerns and proximity to DCA, but are these absolutely not resolvable, even at a hefty price tag? The SB doesn't own the land so that's another huge hurdle but I think a HS on the east side would make more sense than Kenmore/VHS.

Anonymous wrote:Let's not forget that Nestle is coming soon to Rosslyn with 750 jobs, of all sorts . It's reasonable to assume many of these people will try to live in Lyon Village or similar areas--or wherever in Arlington. The overcrowding at ASFS/Key, especially, will be unsustainable.

A good portion of them are from Ohio so they will be experiencing major sticker shock.

Anonymous wrote:A choice school would potentially be an "outlet valve" to relieve overcrowding at several schools across the county - not just one or two neighborhoods. And it has the potential to balance out the demographics, if it's pulling kids from all over the county. It's a no-brainer

It's a brainer if you actually want to figure out what additional "choice" is actually going to draw kids from all over the county.

A choice school would potentially be an "outlet valve" to relieve overcrowding at several schools across the county - not just one or two neighborhoods. And it has the potential to balance out the demographics, if it's pulling kids from all over the county. It's a no-brainer

More housing like this:
https://www.arlnow.com/2017/05/03/woodbury-park-apartments-to-cap-renovations-with-ribbon-cutting/

And less like the Shell will help balance out school zones that would feed into a Kenmore High

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly enough- Arlington already does do AH for people at higher income levels. They have CAF's at 80% of the median income and 60% of the median income---- so it is not just for people living far below the median income.
https://housing.arlingtonva.us/affordable-housing/what-is-affordable/
https://housing.arlingtonva.us/income-rent-limits/

Again, those numbers don't work and aren't usable for the "middle class" in this area.

For example, a couple with one child can not make more than $79,440 at the 80% mark. What if the couple are both young teachers, let's say they make $50K or so with a combined income that comes in right at $100K. They don't qualify but they also can't really afford to even rent a small condo market rates.

Carver Place affordable housing - $282,800 for a 3BR, 2.5BA townhome, must be a family of 4 or 5, income must be in the range of $66,180 - $71.530
https://arlingtonva.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2013/09/Carver-Place-Flyer-Ready-to-Buy-3.pdf

The chance that someone with that income level, with that number of kids, in this high cost of living area is going to be able to afford the upkeep for such a home plus feed their family is almost nil so forget about things like saving money, making home repairs, etc. This means that families who buy the home will almost certainly require government or charity assistance for a very long, long time and the chance for savings isn't there either. It's really a vicious cycle.

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Anonymous wrote:Interestingly enough- Arlington already does do AH for people at higher income levels. They have CAF's at 80% of the median income and 60% of the median income---- so it is not just for people living far below the median income.
https://housing.arlingtonva.us/affordable-housing/what-is-affordable/
https://housing.arlingtonva.us/income-rent-limits/

Indeed, but people in the 80% AMI and above range don't choose to live in CAF's. They'd rather have a long commute.

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