Anonymous
Post 02/04/2017 17:17     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So none of you had a walk thru before closing?



The smart thing to do is have one spouse make one final inspection, call the other spouse to start signing, get in car and then go sign yourself. Or have one spouse sign first and then go to inspect and do all the other paperwork while that spouse is inspecting.[b]


Wow. So do people really go to the final walk through in the morning, drive to closing and when they return to the house after the closing - shelving, drapes, rods, light fixtures, touch up paint, etc have been removed?

Who removed those items? If the seller is at closing it couldn't be the seller, right? So, who did it? Is this really a thing?
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2017 16:33     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:Some of you are being willfully obtuse.

If your listing talks about updated appliances, and custom closets, then they need to stay put.
Pics of your beautiful built ins?
They stay.
It's fine to take that stuff, but don't use them as selling features and then pack them up.
Otherwise you are false advertising.


Are some of you people European or something? They truly only sell the walls and roof. But this ain't Europe.


Not European and hated the HHI episodes where it'd be no thing but gaping holes in the kitchen after they took the dishwasher and fridge and stove etc. But if its an added touch that's not an appliance and is a 'standard' home feature I feel justified in taking it. I'm not going to pack up a Viking range, but other features of the house that are particular to my decorating tastes...yeah I'll take them.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2017 16:22     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:People really take or swap light fixtures before closing?? As a buyer I would be pissed. Those are part of the features that were included when I decided on the house.


I would as I took a lot of time selecting them and we can reuse them. Its an easy DIY. I'd do it before we sold the house. Same with faucets and there stuff we want to keep.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2017 16:15     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those asking where you're supposed to put your clothes while selling the house if you take the Elfa down... hello, that's the point. Take down the Elfa and put back up whatever you're going to leave with the house (a standard rod/shelf, whatever). It shouldn't just be left empty with nothing to hang on. The new buyers don't want that any more than you do while living there.


Exactly. So cheap and petty. These sellers would scream bloody murder if it was done to them. I've never removed a light bulb or a fixture or shelving or an appliance in a home unless it was requested by a buyer.


As a buyer, I would never expect an Elfa closet to convey. I would assume that you would be smart enough to take it with you. I also assume you're taking all of your garage/basement shelving. The beautiful antique looking fixtures--I assume they're going. The wall mounted tv, the picture rail rails, the sound system, I assume it's all going with the sellers. I wouldn't even notice if a seller swapped out LED lightbulbs or USB outlets. These are all transferable items that the home owner paid good money for. Like the couches, the beds, and the other personal items, they can all be reused in their new home. Certainly the house was not priced higher than comps because of these features. If someone posted on here that their house had LED lightbulbs and they wanted to price it $1,000 more to account for that, they would be mocked. So why should the seller lose money on these perfectly good items that they originally purchased.

With the purchase of a house, I expect the bare minimum to convey as spelled out in the contract.


How many houses have you bought and sold pp? Your views are not standard.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2017 14:44     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Some of you are being willfully obtuse.

If your listing talks about updated appliances, and custom closets, then they need to stay put.
Pics of your beautiful built ins?
They stay.
It's fine to take that stuff, but don't use them as selling features and then pack them up.
Otherwise you are false advertising.


Are some of you people European or something? They truly only sell the walls and roof. But this ain't Europe.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2017 02:22     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:So none of you had a walk thru before closing?



The smart thing to do is have one spouse make one final inspection, call the other spouse to start signing, get in car and then go sign yourself. Or have one spouse sign first and then go to inspect and do all the other paperwork while that spouse is inspecting.[b]
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2017 00:05     Subject: Re:Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Rose bushes
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2017 23:50     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
The soul, the life...
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2017 23:44     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Interesting. It never occurred to me that we would take the Elfa closet fixtures if we sold.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2017 18:00     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
People really take or swap light fixtures before closing?? As a buyer I would be pissed. Those are part of the features that were included when I decided on the house.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2017 17:31     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those asking where you're supposed to put your clothes while selling the house if you take the Elfa down... hello, that's the point. Take down the Elfa and put back up whatever you're going to leave with the house (a standard rod/shelf, whatever). It shouldn't just be left empty with nothing to hang on. The new buyers don't want that any more than you do while living there.


Exactly. So cheap and petty. These sellers would scream bloody murder if it was done to them. I've never removed a light bulb or a fixture or shelving or an appliance in a home unless it was requested by a buyer.


As a buyer, I would never expect an Elfa closet to convey. I would assume that you would be smart enough to take it with you. I also assume you're taking all of your garage/basement shelving. The beautiful antique looking fixtures--I assume they're going. The wall mounted tv, the picture rail rails, the sound system, I assume it's all going with the sellers. I wouldn't even notice if a seller swapped out LED lightbulbs or USB outlets. These are all transferable items that the home owner paid good money for. Like the couches, the beds, and the other personal items, they can all be reused in their new home. Certainly the house was not priced higher than comps because of these features. If someone posted on here that their house had LED lightbulbs and they wanted to price it $1,000 more to account for that, they would be mocked. So why should the seller lose money on these perfectly good items that they originally purchased.

With the purchase of a house, I expect the bare minimum to convey as spelled out in the contract.


The standard contract in Maryland, as I recall, says all fixtures convey unless specified otherwise. So to be safe you should make clear that the Elfa and light fixtures are excluded.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2017 15:44     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those asking where you're supposed to put your clothes while selling the house if you take the Elfa down... hello, that's the point. Take down the Elfa and put back up whatever you're going to leave with the house (a standard rod/shelf, whatever). It shouldn't just be left empty with nothing to hang on. The new buyers don't want that any more than you do while living there.


Exactly. So cheap and petty. These sellers would scream bloody murder if it was done to them. I've never removed a light bulb or a fixture or shelving or an appliance in a home unless it was requested by a buyer.


As a buyer, I would never expect an Elfa closet to convey. I would assume that you would be smart enough to take it with you. I also assume you're taking all of your garage/basement shelving. The beautiful antique looking fixtures--I assume they're going. The wall mounted tv, the picture rail rails, the sound system, I assume it's all going with the sellers. I wouldn't even notice if a seller swapped out LED lightbulbs or USB outlets. These are all transferable items that the home owner paid good money for. Like the couches, the beds, and the other personal items, they can all be reused in their new home. Certainly the house was not priced higher than comps because of these features. If someone posted on here that their house had LED lightbulbs and they wanted to price it $1,000 more to account for that, they would be mocked. So why should the seller lose money on these perfectly good items that they originally purchased.

With the purchase of a house, I expect the bare minimum to convey as spelled out in the contract.


I think the whole point with shelving and light bulbs, is that it is PERFECTLY FINE to take it with you if you've paid to have either one upgraded, but then REPLACE what you have taken with what was originally there. No one is telling you to leave your expensive ELFA closet system, but I sure as hell would expect that you would put back up whatever it was that you replaced with that system, and it is completely ludicrous to think that it's okay to leave your buyers with zero light in the house because you wanted your pricey LEDs and didn't care to replace them with cheap bulbs.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2017 15:17     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those asking where you're supposed to put your clothes while selling the house if you take the Elfa down... hello, that's the point. Take down the Elfa and put back up whatever you're going to leave with the house (a standard rod/shelf, whatever). It shouldn't just be left empty with nothing to hang on. The new buyers don't want that any more than you do while living there.


Exactly. So cheap and petty. These sellers would scream bloody murder if it was done to them. I've never removed a light bulb or a fixture or shelving or an appliance in a home unless it was requested by a buyer.


As a buyer, I would never expect an Elfa closet to convey. I would assume that you would be smart enough to take it with you. I also assume you're taking all of your garage/basement shelving. The beautiful antique looking fixtures--I assume they're going. The wall mounted tv, the picture rail rails, the sound system, I assume it's all going with the sellers. I wouldn't even notice if a seller swapped out LED lightbulbs or USB outlets. These are all transferable items that the home owner paid good money for. Like the couches, the beds, and the other personal items, they can all be reused in their new home. Certainly the house was not priced higher than comps because of these features. If someone posted on here that their house had LED lightbulbs and they wanted to price it $1,000 more to account for that, they would be mocked. So why should the seller lose money on these perfectly good items that they originally purchased.

With the purchase of a house, I expect the bare minimum to convey as spelled out in the contract.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2017 15:05     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those asking where you're supposed to put your clothes while selling the house if you take the Elfa down... hello, that's the point. Take down the Elfa and put back up whatever you're going to leave with the house (a standard rod/shelf, whatever). It shouldn't just be left empty with nothing to hang on. The new buyers don't want that any more than you do while living there.


Exactly. So cheap and petty. These sellers would scream bloody murder if it was done to them. I've never removed a light bulb or a fixture or shelving or an appliance in a home unless it was requested by a buyer.


+1
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2017 14:39     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:For those asking where you're supposed to put your clothes while selling the house if you take the Elfa down... hello, that's the point. Take down the Elfa and put back up whatever you're going to leave with the house (a standard rod/shelf, whatever). It shouldn't just be left empty with nothing to hang on. The new buyers don't want that any more than you do while living there.


Exactly. So cheap and petty. These sellers would scream bloody murder if it was done to them. I've never removed a light bulb or a fixture or shelving or an appliance in a home unless it was requested by a buyer.