Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 18:11     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
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Anonymous wrote:Bowsers going to announce a proximity preference for families living 0.5 mile from a charter. Will start in SY 18.



As if schools like YY and Basis aren't hard enough to get into already.

This will benefit the families in gentrifying neighborhoods East of the Park and West of the Anacostia. It won't help poorer students at all.


I would love to live in a condo in Penn Quarter. . .
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 17:58     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
Anonymous wrote:Bowsers going to announce a proximity preference for families living 0.5 mile from a charter. Will start in SY 18.



As if schools like YY and Basis aren't hard enough to get into already.

This will benefit the families in gentrifying neighborhoods East of the Park and West of the Anacostia. It won't help poorer students at all.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 17:46     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:And yet Logan Montessori and SWS will continue to not offer the preference. Once again screwing Hill families.


Even if they offered it it's unclear anyone would qualify--e.g., those who live across the street from SWS are still less than .5 miles from L-T.


Again: people in-bounds for Watkins in the stanton park neighborhood would qualify.


Yes, but are there any charters closer? SWS and CHML are citywide DCPS schools. I'm also not entirely sure that the walkability preference would apply if the distance measured is to Peabody, especially if the Cluster maintains the bus.


The entire point of the earlier comment is that if they're going to give a proximity preference for charters they should give them to city wide dcps schools too. There is no difference between a charter that is supposed to be open to the entire city and a dcps that is supposed to be open to the entire city.

The bus is irrelevant and they're trying to take that away anyway.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 15:15     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
No -there are no charters around SWS, but it is very frustrating that there is no walkabiliy preference for people across the street.

And CHML is close to Two Rivers, but the people within .5 of it are out of luck, too. Maybe Two Rivers would be up for the proximity preference in Old City.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 14:45     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And yet Logan Montessori and SWS will continue to not offer the preference. Once again screwing Hill families.


Even if they offered it it's unclear anyone would qualify--e.g., those who live across the street from SWS are still less than .5 miles from L-T.


Again: people in-bounds for Watkins in the stanton park neighborhood would qualify.


Yes, but are there any charters closer? SWS and CHML are citywide DCPS schools. I'm also not entirely sure that the walkability preference would apply if the distance measured is to Peabody, especially if the Cluster maintains the bus.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 14:39     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
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Anonymous wrote:I've mentioned this before, but I was at a Ward 4 event back when Bowser was my councilmember, and she was touting the addition of Latin as a boon for the Ward.

Multiple parents spoke up saying that it wasn't that big a deal because their kids hadn't been able to lottery into the school.

It was very obvious that this was the first time she had given the lottery any thought at all, and she was visibly bothered that there was a bit of a backlash instead of everybody standing around talking about how great she is.



Interesting. I do think this is Bowser looking for a way to get started stripping away charter autonomy.


What on earth does that even mean? Use your words, girl!


There is concern on the charter side for growing too large. When they have >50% of DC students, they may have held to higher levels of accountability. Some of the more financially corrupt charters will be exposed for what they are...and all the PG kids in Ward 8 charters might be rooted out.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 12:34     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
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Anonymous wrote:They are using the same <.5 + >.5 formula that determines proximity preference for DCPS schools.

Both will only apply to a relatively small number of students.


10k according to the Mayor. So about 1 in 9 students in the system. Probably all in Wards 7 & 8.


There may be that # with kids >0.5 from their IB (even that is questionable), but certainly not that many >0.5 and <0.5 from a charter. I don't believe any of those numbers.


And then they would have to be in the lottery, right? So you would subtract anyone that was re-enrolling at their elementary school.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 12:24     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've mentioned this before, but I was at a Ward 4 event back when Bowser was my councilmember, and she was touting the addition of Latin as a boon for the Ward.

Multiple parents spoke up saying that it wasn't that big a deal because their kids hadn't been able to lottery into the school.

It was very obvious that this was the first time she had given the lottery any thought at all, and she was visibly bothered that there was a bit of a backlash instead of everybody standing around talking about how great she is.



Interesting. I do think this is Bowser looking for a way to get started stripping away charter autonomy.


What on earth does that even mean? Use your words, girl!
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 12:22     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
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Anonymous wrote:This is utterly ludicrous. How are immersion schools supposed to survive? They already can only get native speakers via recruitment only, and now that's gone too?


The strong schools will survive, though target language instruction will suffer. But then who really cares about that in the DC charter realm? Yu Ying has thrived with a handful of native speakers, literally a handful out of 540 students.


I know LAMB isn't in the common lottery so this may be moot. But LAMB's Missouri Avenue campus is surrounded by homes and apartment buildings full of native speakers whose children attend Brightwood or Center City PCS on Georgia. If they were to offer this preference it would absolutely increase the percentage of native speakers.



Even if LAMB was eligible and decided to apply this preference (LAMB parents on this board has mentioned recruiting efforts for the school lottery throughout the neighborhood), all of those apartments are less than .5 miles from their IB school.

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Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 12:10     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are using the same <.5 + >.5 formula that determines proximity preference for DCPS schools.

Both will only apply to a relatively small number of students.


10k according to the Mayor. So about 1 in 9 students in the system. Probably all in Wards 7 & 8.


There may be that # with kids >0.5 from their IB (even that is questionable), but certainly not that many >0.5 and <0.5 from a charter. I don't believe any of those numbers.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 12:06     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is utterly ludicrous. How are immersion schools supposed to survive? They already can only get native speakers via recruitment only, and now that's gone too?


The strong schools will survive, though target language instruction will suffer. But then who really cares about that in the DC charter realm? Yu Ying has thrived with a handful of native speakers, literally a handful out of 540 students.


I know LAMB isn't in the common lottery so this may be moot. But LAMB's Missouri Avenue campus is surrounded by homes and apartment buildings full of native speakers whose children attend Brightwood or Center City PCS on Georgia. If they were to offer this preference it would absolutely increase the percentage of native speakers.



Even if LAMB was eligible and decided to apply this preference (LAMB parents on this board has mentioned recruiting efforts for the school lottery throughout the neighborhood), all of those apartments are less than .5 miles from their IB school.




Yes. Many people are having a hard time understanding the second part of the preference (your IB must be >0.5 miles away). LAMB is across the street from Brightwood, so (most, if not all) those surrounding apartments PP is referring to is NOT >0.5 mile from their IB.

Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 11:51     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are using the same <.5 + >.5 formula that determines proximity preference for DCPS schools.

Both will only apply to a relatively small number of students.


10k according to the Mayor. So about 1 in 9 students in the system. Probably all in Wards 7 & 8.


That number seems awfully high. There are only 41,000 charter students in total; 21,634 are in grades Pk3-5th city wide.






Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 11:50     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And yet Logan Montessori and SWS will continue to not offer the preference. Once again screwing Hill families.


Even if they offered it it's unclear anyone would qualify--e.g., those who live across the street from SWS are still less than .5 miles from L-T.


Again: people in-bounds for Watkins in the stanton park neighborhood would qualify.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 11:44     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
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Anonymous wrote:Don't have time to read entire post. Is there a petition or something the public can do to show opposition to this?


How can you really oppose if you don't read the entire thread? Did you even read the article? What, specifically, are your concerns?


Proximity preference violates the entire premise of citywide schools. There are few enough seats after sibling preference.


+1. I hope most schools say no to this.


This will be a windfall for Rocketship and other operators in Ward 8.


Those schools were doing fine recruiting before - i don't think they needed this.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2017 11:32     Subject: Proximity Preference 0.5 mile for charters
Anonymous wrote:They are using the same <.5 + >.5 formula that determines proximity preference for DCPS schools.

Both will only apply to a relatively small number of students.


10k according to the Mayor. So about 1 in 9 students in the system. Probably all in Wards 7 & 8.