Anonymous
Post 12/31/2016 01:16     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I honestly can't believe the level of denial here. After seeing a global conspiracy around every corner for the last eight years. Now you finally have documented proof that the Russians hacked american targets, and -- hey, it could be anyone!


Feel free to pee your pants for as long as you see fit


I am not afraid of the Russians. I don't think we should let Putin walk all over us.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2016 01:05     Subject: Re:Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Does this count as proof? https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY%20STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

How else does an entity prove it has been hacked? Honestly I am not sure if anything short of being uploaded into the Matrix by Trump himself would be enough proof for the trolls.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2016 00:50     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Anonymous wrote:I honestly can't believe the level of denial here. After seeing a global conspiracy around every corner for the last eight years. Now you finally have documented proof that the Russians hacked american targets, and -- hey, it could be anyone!


Feel free to pee your pants for as long as you see fit
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2016 00:49     Subject: Re:Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/something-about-this-russia-story-stinks-w458439

Even that "conservative" magazine, Rolling Stone, things something smells in this hacking story.


Thanks for sharing. Good piece. God, some people will believe anything if it's what they want to hear.


I am a veteran engineer with internet security experience going back to '97. I have reviewed the evidence presented by Crowdstrike and the other firms. It's clearly the work of russian government hackers. There's no way to prove motive, but it was definitely them.

So frankly I don't care what this music magazine says. And given what you probably said about their journalistic integrity regarding the campus rape story, you shouldn't be relying on them either.


Well, master infosec expert, if you want to discredit the story legitimately, you would do well to realize it's a Matt Taibbi piece, much more than it is a "music magazine" piece.


Uh, he is neither technical nor a technical writer. He is a political and financial journalist who spent some time in Russia.

he would be more qualified to read a CT scan than to [b]interpret the technical evidence of russian hacking[b].



Either you didn't read his piece or you didn't understand it. Because it's not primarily about "interpreting technical evidence."
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2016 00:31     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

I honestly can't believe the level of denial here. After seeing a global conspiracy around every corner for the last eight years. Now you finally have documented proof that the Russians hacked american targets, and -- hey, it could be anyone!
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2016 00:28     Subject: Re:Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/something-about-this-russia-story-stinks-w458439

Even that "conservative" magazine, Rolling Stone, things something smells in this hacking story.


Thanks for sharing. Good piece. God, some people will believe anything if it's what they want to hear.


I am a veteran engineer with internet security experience going back to '97. I have reviewed the evidence presented by Crowdstrike and the other firms. It's clearly the work of russian government hackers. There's no way to prove motive, but it was definitely them.

So frankly I don't care what this music magazine says. And given what you probably said about their journalistic integrity regarding the campus rape story, you shouldn't be relying on them either.


Well, master infosec expert, if you want to discredit the story legitimately, you would do well to realize it's a Matt Taibbi piece, much more than it is a "music magazine" piece.


Uh, he is neither technical nor a technical writer. He is a political and financial journalist who spent some time in Russia.

he would be more qualified to read a CT scan than to interpret the technical evidence of russian hacking.

Anonymous
Post 12/31/2016 00:24     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Taibbi is a media critic and a political commentator, not a reporter. There's a difference. He lobs bombs at reporters but doesn't do any hard work of reporting. He should get out there if he knows exactly how reporters should report on intelligence matters.

*********************

Taibi slants extremely left-wing as a general rule. For Taibi to question this Russian hacking story is very significant as he of all people has absolutely no motivation to do anything to cover for Trump.


nah Taibbi is in the mold of Bernie Bros, who are more than happy to play the skeptic on the Russian interference because they want to keep on attacking Hillary. To call Taibbi "left wing" is to not really understand what he does.


DP. You're ridiculous. You actually think there's a significant number of "Bernie Bros" and progressives or other non-Republicans who would happily sacrifice the integrity of the American electoral system and the ideal of democracy itself just because they really want to be mean to Hillary?

You mean like Susan Sarandon who wanted Trump elected so the revolution would come sooner? Significant numbers? No. Some? Yes.


Like I said, ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2016 00:20     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Different side: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/how-trump-made-russias-hacking-more-effective/511880/


This sentence "And maybe he is wise to leave the mystery in place: as delegitimizing as it is, it’s very possible the truth would be even worse." is absolutely chilling.


What's chilling is that anyone would listen to anything David "Axis of Evil" Frum thinks on the subject of foreign relations. The man helped to get us into the Iraq war based on false pretenses.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2016 00:00     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Anonymous wrote:Different side: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/how-trump-made-russias-hacking-more-effective/511880/


This sentence "And maybe he is wise to leave the mystery in place: as delegitimizing as it is, it’s very possible the truth would be even worse." is absolutely chilling.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 23:56     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Taibbi is a media critic and a political commentator, not a reporter. There's a difference. He lobs bombs at reporters but doesn't do any hard work of reporting. He should get out there if he knows exactly how reporters should report on intelligence matters.

*********************

Taibi slants extremely left-wing as a general rule. For Taibi to question this Russian hacking story is very significant as he of all people has absolutely no motivation to do anything to cover for Trump.


nah Taibbi is in the mold of Bernie Bros, who are more than happy to play the skeptic on the Russian interference because they want to keep on attacking Hillary. To call Taibbi "left wing" is to not really understand what he does.


DP. You're ridiculous. You actually think there's a significant number of "Bernie Bros" and progressives or other non-Republicans who would happily sacrifice the integrity of the American electoral system and the ideal of democracy itself just because they really want to be mean to Hillary?

You mean like Susan Sarandon who wanted Trump elected so the revolution would come sooner? Significant numbers? No. Some? Yes.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 22:26     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 22:26     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Taibbi is a media critic and a political commentator, not a reporter. There's a difference. He lobs bombs at reporters but doesn't do any hard work of reporting. He should get out there if he knows exactly how reporters should report on intelligence matters.

*********************

Taibi slants extremely left-wing as a general rule. For Taibi to question this Russian hacking story is very significant as he of all people has absolutely no motivation to do anything to cover for Trump.


nah Taibbi is in the mold of Bernie Bros, who are more than happy to play the skeptic on the Russian interference because they want to keep on attacking Hillary. To call Taibbi "left wing" is to not really understand what he does.


DP. You're ridiculous. You actually think there's a significant number of "Bernie Bros" and progressives or other non-Republicans who would happily sacrifice the integrity of the American electoral system and the ideal of democracy itself just because they really want to be mean to Hillary?
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 22:20     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Anonymous wrote:Taibbi is a media critic and a political commentator, not a reporter. There's a difference. He lobs bombs at reporters but doesn't do any hard work of reporting. He should get out there if he knows exactly how reporters should report on intelligence matters.

*********************

Taibi slants extremely left-wing as a general rule. For Taibi to question this Russian hacking story is very significant as he of all people has absolutely no motivation to do anything to cover for Trump.


nah Taibbi is in the mold of Bernie Bros, who are more than happy to play the skeptic on the Russian interference because they want to keep on attacking Hillary. To call Taibbi "left wing" is to not really understand what he does.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 22:02     Subject: Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Taibbi is a media critic and a political commentator, not a reporter. There's a difference. He lobs bombs at reporters but doesn't do any hard work of reporting. He should get out there if he knows exactly how reporters should report on intelligence matters.

*********************

Taibi slants extremely left-wing as a general rule. For Taibi to question this Russian hacking story is very significant as he of all people has absolutely no motivation to do anything to cover for Trump.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2016 21:55     Subject: Re:Obama Admin under pressure to provide "hacking" proof

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/something-about-this-russia-story-stinks-w458439

Even that "conservative" magazine, Rolling Stone, things something smells in this hacking story.


Thanks for sharing. Good piece. God, some people will believe anything if it's what they want to hear.


I am a veteran engineer with internet security experience going back to '97. I have reviewed the evidence presented by Crowdstrike and the other firms. It's clearly the work of russian government hackers. There's no way to prove motive, but it was definitely them.

So frankly I don't care what this music magazine says. And given what you probably said about their journalistic integrity regarding the campus rape story, you shouldn't be relying on them either.


Well, master infosec expert, if you want to discredit the story legitimately, you would do well to realize it's a Matt Taibbi piece, much more than it is a "music magazine" piece.


matt taibbi is a critic, not a reporter. all due respect to his rhetorical powers, but if he wants to report he should get off his ass an report. not just sit at his, yes, music magazine, and lob bombs (metaphorical bombs).


Huh? A critic? Like a music critic? Are you not familiar with his work? Taibbi is a very well respected journalist and author with extensive Russian experience.


Taibbi is a media critic and a political commentator, not a reporter. There's a difference. He lobs bombs at reporters but doesn't do any hard work of reporting. He should get out there if he knows exactly how reporters should report on intelligence matters.