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Anonymous wrote:DH was in room. Said that Trump was like his debate self - started off strong, great delivery, then just unraveled. He said Hilary was slow at first, but warmed up quickly. He was not a fan of hers until tonight. "You know, I like her."

I always find it interesting when DW's post their DH's opinion here. Almost as if the DH's opinion is of more weight than anything a female would say. Very odd, but I hear women doing this in conversation as well.

DH attended. I didn't. When he got home, he shared this view. He knew I would find it of interest as I support her and am fairly vocal in how we, as a society, are socialized not to like her or any woman who has reached her stature. I think DH probably has some unconscious bias towards her and I think it fell away when he was sitting 15 fifteen feet from where she was speaking, especially in contrast to Trump. Yes, my guess is that women do this in conversation because society does not treat their opinions with the same weight as it does men. I probably would have college paid for both DCs if I had a dollar for every time, from college on, that a man repeated my comments in a meeting as if they were being introduced for the first time. That said, I shared DH's comments as he (1) was there unlike the PPs to date who watched on TV and (2) had heretefore less than favorable opinions of HRC.

If he was in that room, chances are you guys are already big $$$$ Democrat donors. Why are you trying to get us to believe he 'just now' thinks she's OK

Well, to be honest, he could have been part of the wait staff!

Trump looks uncomfortable in the debates and at this dinner. He looks most comfortable at his rallies.

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Anonymous wrote:DH was in room. Said that Trump was like his debate self - started off strong, great delivery, then just unraveled. He said Hilary was slow at first, but warmed up quickly. He was not a fan of hers until tonight. "You know, I like her."

I always find it interesting when DW's post their DH's opinion here. Almost as if the DH's opinion is of more weight than anything a female would say. Very odd, but I hear women doing this in conversation as well.

DH attended. I didn't. When he got home, he shared this view. He knew I would find it of interest as I support her and am fairly vocal in how we, as a society, are socialized not to like her or any woman who has reached her stature. I think DH probably has some unconscious bias towards her and I think it fell away when he was sitting 15 fifteen feet from where she was speaking, especially in contrast to Trump. Yes, my guess is that women do this in conversation because society does not treat their opinions with the same weight as it does men. I probably would have college paid for both DCs if I had a dollar for every time, from college on, that a man repeated my comments in a meeting as if they were being introduced for the first time. That said, I shared DH's comments as he (1) was there unlike the PPs to date who watched on TV and (2) had heretefore less than favorable opinions of HRC.

If he was in that room, chances are you guys are already big $$$$ Democrat donors. Why are you trying to get us to believe he 'just now' thinks she's OK

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Anonymous wrote:Is Hillary's make up guy off tonight? Why does she look 10 years older than she did last night? The tucks are coming loose

If she wins, just imagine what 4 years of presidency will do to her.

hell, she's having difficulty walking now

Better a lame body than a lame head.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Hillary's make up guy off tonight? Why does she look 10 years older than she did last night? The tucks are coming loose

If she wins, just imagine what 4 years of presidency will do to her.

hell, she's having difficulty walking now

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Anonymous wrote:And which independent candidate will get your vote?

Given that I don't think any independent candidate will *ever* have a chance of winning this election, I chose the lesser of two extreme evils - HRC.

I do acknowledge all of her faults; that Dems are no where near perfect, etc.... Like many Repubs, and former ones, I am voting for the person who I think will do the least damage and is the most qualified of the two most least qualified candidates since I've been voting starting from the 80's.

Okay, thanks. I didn't think you had to be voting for her - though you are - to have an opinion on that. You've given me hope in admitting she has faults. On DCUM, you'd think she walks on water.

PP here.. I think staunch supporters on both sides are blind to their leaders' faults. People who are not staunch supporters of either have either abandoned ship by outright voting for a different party's candidate or not voting at all. Also, in the primaries, you saw many Dems voting for Sanders, and many of these folks are extreme left and are very critical of HRC.

Obviously, this forum leans very left, hence you see a lot more staunch HRC supporters. Plus, if you hate one more over the other, you will probably be more apt to post negative things about the one you hate more vs the other. Well, at least, this is me.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or did Melania hardly seem to smile or laugh like something is *really* funny? Was it because she didn't know what was going on, or she was trying to have some air of aloofness? Or she was uncomfortable?

Yes to all three.

Her eyes are perpetually squinted like someone once describer "her expression is that of someone caught a second before a sneeze" and her face is too tight with all that plastic surgery, so it could be that no expression actually shows what she is feeling because she cannot move her face.

Besides it is not fun to be a bimbo-wife of such a despised loser. I cannot even imagine her nightmare of having sex with such a degenerate, crude, saggy and toad like man. And after all that knowing that he is pawing and molesting other women, lusting after his own daughter, eyeing underage girls!

Melania made a deal with the devil - access to her body in exchange of Donald financing her parents to live in US. She is making the best of the situation but not necessarily being able to smile about it.

And, you know Melania how? You say this as if you know her.
I bet you are a real winner, pp.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or did Melania hardly seem to smile or laugh like something is *really* funny? Was it because she didn't know what was going on, or she was trying to have some air of aloofness? Or she was uncomfortable?

Yes to all three.

Her eyes are perpetually squinted like someone once describer "her expression is that of someone caught a second before a sneeze" and her face is too tight with all that plastic surgery, so it could be that no expression actually shows what she is feeling because she cannot move her face.

Besides it is not fun to be a bimbo-wife of such a despised loser. I cannot even imagine her nightmare of having sex with such a degenerate, crude, saggy and toad like man. And after all that knowing that he is pawing and molesting other women, lusting after his own daughter, eyeing underage girls!

Melania made a deal with the devil - access to her body in exchange of Donald financing her parents to live in US. She is making the best of the situation but not necessarily being able to smile about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I read the article in the WaPo about the dinner.
This is media bias on full display.

Jenna Johnson, the author, is highly critical of Trump’s speech, finding no humor at all.
And while Trump did throw insults at Hillary and got boos from the crowd, Hillary threw insults too and was also booed.

This fact was never mentioned.

I guess Ms. Johnson was insulted that Trump called out the publication that employs her for working for the Clinton campaign.
He sure got that right.

I watched the whole thing. Specifically when do you claim that Hillary was booed?

Still waiting for an answer on this...

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Anonymous wrote:DH was in room. Said that Trump was like his debate self - started off strong, great delivery, then just unraveled. He said Hilary was slow at first, but warmed up quickly. He was not a fan of hers until tonight. "You know, I like her."

Right. He just "decided", huh? Sweet.

Not a fan of hers either, but for the first time thought I might be able to stomach the next four years of listening to her. She seemed personable for the first time ever.

Maybe if she could get off her reliance on the teleprompter as president, we'll see her personable side. One can only hope.

LOL. How many speeches do you give a day? Forget in your lifetime - each day.

Maybe you don't know? Some presidents rely on teleprompters much more than others do. It actually varies.

Yes, it varies. Pols who usually rely on their stump speech with slight tweaks for each audience use them less. Presidents who are trying to connect with the audience in a re specific topic, theme, event (think Gabby Gifford or Sandy Hook) use them more. In my first public speaking class, I learned how to use note cards. But like anything, the more familiar you are with the topic, speech, etc, the less you need "crutches." I don't want the president spending all of his or her time rehearsing a speech for delivery. I'd rather have them read their remarks for something like Sandy Hook memorial a few times while en route to the event, then use a teleprompter. For run of the mill, I'd rather have them use the teleprompter and devote the other time to saving the economy, working with Congress, etc. My guess is most of these folks who carp about the teleprompters have delivered one speech, if that, and perhaps it was in front of 10 folks. They simply have no idea what it takes to deliver public remarks.

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Anonymous wrote:DH was in room. Said that Trump was like his debate self - started off strong, great delivery, then just unraveled. He said Hilary was slow at first, but warmed up quickly. He was not a fan of hers until tonight. "You know, I like her."

Right. He just "decided", huh? Sweet.

Not a fan of hers either, but for the first time thought I might be able to stomach the next four years of listening to her. She seemed personable for the first time ever.

Maybe if she could get off her reliance on the teleprompter as president, we'll see her personable side. One can only hope.

LOL. How many speeches do you give a day? Forget in your lifetime - each day.

Maybe you don't know? Some presidents rely on teleprompters much more than others do. It actually varies.

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Anonymous wrote:DH was in room. Said that Trump was like his debate self - started off strong, great delivery, then just unraveled. He said Hilary was slow at first, but warmed up quickly. He was not a fan of hers until tonight. "You know, I like her."

I always find it interesting when DW's post their DH's opinion here. Almost as if the DH's opinion is of more weight than anything a female would say. Very odd, but I hear women doing this in conversation as well.

Should PP have given her opinion, given that she wasn't there?

I interpreted it as "in the room" ie watching on TV or streaming or something. My comment still stands, though.

And yes, if PP watched the speech, why not give her own opinion?

Harh, DH was in the room. He could have hit either HRC, DJT, or the cardinal with a spit ball if he had chosen. He was watched HRC a gazillion times on TV. Being in the room made a difference. So...that's why I wrote "DH was in the room," not "DH was sitting next to me on couch." I support HRC, he only did as the least of two bad options. Doesn't feel that way now. Oy.

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Anonymous wrote:DH was in room. Said that Trump was like his debate self - started off strong, great delivery, then just unraveled. He said Hilary was slow at first, but warmed up quickly. He was not a fan of hers until tonight. "You know, I like her."

Right. He just "decided", huh? Sweet.

Not a fan of hers either, but for the first time thought I might be able to stomach the next four years of listening to her. She seemed personable for the first time ever.

Maybe if she could get off her reliance on the teleprompter as president, we'll see her personable side. One can only hope.

LOL. How many speeches do you give a day? Forget in your lifetime - each day.

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Anonymous wrote:DH was in room. Said that Trump was like his debate self - started off strong, great delivery, then just unraveled. He said Hilary was slow at first, but warmed up quickly. He was not a fan of hers until tonight. "You know, I like her."

I always find it interesting when DW's post their DH's opinion here. Almost as if the DH's opinion is of more weight than anything a female would say. Very odd, but I hear women doing this in conversation as well.

DH attended. I didn't. When he got home, he shared this view. He knew I would find it of interest as I support her and am fairly vocal in how we, as a society, are socialized not to like her or any woman who has reached her stature. I think DH probably has some unconscious bias towards her and I think it fell away when he was sitting 15 fifteen feet from where she was speaking, especially in contrast to Trump. Yes, my guess is that women do this in conversation because society does not treat their opinions with the same weight as it does men. I probably would have college paid for both DCs if I had a dollar for every time, from college on, that a man repeated my comments in a meeting as if they were being introduced for the first time. That said, I shared DH's comments as he (1) was there unlike the PPs to date who watched on TV and (2) had heretefore less than favorable opinions of HRC.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't say that she said it because it was her campaign staff. But the Cardinal who sat next to her feels she owes Catholics an apology.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-dolan-clinton-owes-catholics-an-apology

Sure, because as a head of the campaign, the buck stops with her. Trump, however, never takes responsibility for anything his people do. It's always someone else's fault. That's not how a leader should be.

Plus, it was Trump that had the feud with the Pope, not HRC. Trump's father also hated catholics, and sometimes, father's views rub off on the son, much like his views on renting to black people.

That's rich. I have learned in the last few weeks on this board that Democrats never take responsibility for anything their people do. They will concede nothing. Not one thing. It's like banging your head against the wall. I admit freely Trump's many flaws and mistakes, but fail to find almost any Clinton supporter who is capable of doing the same.

So, in that way, you have something in common with Trump!

lol... I'm pretty sure no one on this forum is running for POTUS. I stated leaders should take responsibility for their people. I wasn't talking about individuals. Please get some reading comprehension skills.

Sorry, I read it wrong. Good thing I have Dems like you to help me out while insulting me simultaneously. There really is no other way, is there? If leaders should take responsibiltiy for their people, I will await Hillary coming to step up and acknowledge and take responsibility for Donna Brazile's actions.

Separately, can you tell me why Hillary supporters are so incapable of admitting there are any bad ones in the bunch?

I have no idea. I'm not a Democrat. I am now Independent, used to be Republican.

And which independent candidate will get your vote?

Given that I don't think any independent candidate will *ever* have a chance of winning this election, I chose the lesser of two extreme evils - HRC.

I do acknowledge all of her faults; that Dems are no where near perfect, etc.... Like many Repubs, and former ones, I am voting for the person who I think will do the least damage and is the most qualified of the two most least qualified candidates since I've been voting starting from the 80's.

Okay, thanks. I didn't think you had to be voting for her - though you are - to have an opinion on that. You've given me hope in admitting she has faults. On DCUM, you'd think she walks on water.