Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:40
Subject: Re:So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I once found myself...alone at night....in a deserted area....in a city well-known for crime. (How I got there is a long story....basically, I was stupid.) I was waiting for a bus to get me the hell out of there, when from around the corner down the street appeared five black males. Late teens, I'd say. They walked half-way up the block, saw me, stopped in their tracks, looked at each other, then kept approaching. They were within 20 feet of me when the bus pulled up and I jumped in. I will admit I was scared to death. So I ask....who here thinks I'm racist, and who here thinks that is a normal reaction from a female, alone at 11 pm, in a deserted abandoned area. Im just curious.....
Well your reaction is normal for anyone, females especially. But then those 5 men could be white and still you should be afraid. There is a difference between situations where your self preservation instincts take over and racism.
Huh? Her point is if she was in Georgetown at the same time, and 5 white male Georgetown students turned the corner she would not be afraid. However, since it was 5 black kids she was. Does that make her racist?
Please read again. It was made clear that the reaction is situation dependent. Just because someone saw 5 black men approaching doesn't mean they are there to rape her. It depends on place and time, and other factors. It is better safe than sorry.
But here is the same situation that could have worked really bad for the black guys. Supposed she called cops and complains that she is afraid of the 5 black men. If the cops are white and books them on some made up charge because he believed her word, then that is racism. Do you think if those men were white, they will face the same serious charges or let go after hearing their side of the story?
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:39
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.
You tell your Polish friend to walk into a bank and apply for a loan, any loan, from a personal to a small business or a home equity and then you tell them to compare their interest rate to that of a person of color who has an equal if not better credit score (assuming the person of color even got approved).
Sorry is it 1950 and there are only white bankers? At my local wells fargo everyone is either black. Hispanic or middle eastern. If i am white will the black banker favor me?
But the point is we aren't talking about individuals - we are talking about the system. Overall, minorities have a harder time getting loans.
It's the system! It's the MAN! That's the problem with liberalism. Groupthink makes it easy for the individual to not do a damn thing to help his/her own situation. How fatalistic!
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:39
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.
You tell your Polish friend to walk into a bank and apply for a loan, any loan, from a personal to a small business or a home equity and then you tell them to compare their interest rate to that of a person of color who has an equal if not better credit score (assuming the person of color even got approved).
Sorry is it 1950 and there are only white bankers? At my local wells fargo everyone is either black. Hispanic or middle eastern. If i am white will the black banker favor me?
But the point is we aren't talking about individuals - we are talking about the system. Overall, minorities have a harder time getting loans.
Because their credit is usually worse. Most lending is incredibly regulated to avoid discrimination. Maybe in 1970, not now.
my point was it doesn't matter what color the individual banker is. There is a systemic problem.
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:36
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.
You tell your Polish friend to walk into a bank and apply for a loan, any loan, from a personal to a small business or a home equity and then you tell them to compare their interest rate to that of a person of color who has an equal if not better credit score (assuming the person of color even got approved).
Sorry is it 1950 and there are only white bankers? At my local wells fargo everyone is either black. Hispanic or middle eastern. If i am white will the black banker favor me?
But the point is we aren't talking about individuals - we are talking about the system. Overall, minorities have a harder time getting loans.
Because their credit is usually worse. Most lending is incredibly regulated to avoid discrimination. Maybe in 1970, not now.
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:35
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.
You tell your Polish friend to walk into a bank and apply for a loan, any loan, from a personal to a small business or a home equity and then you tell them to compare their interest rate to that of a person of color who has an equal if not better credit score (assuming the person of color even got approved).
Sorry is it 1950 and there are only white bankers? At my local wells fargo everyone is either black. Hispanic or middle eastern. If i am white will the black banker favor me?
But the point is we aren't talking about individuals - we are talking about the system. Overall, minorities have a harder time getting loans.
No the pp suggested discrimination citing the same credit score for both loan applicants. No one cares as long as the minority is making big money. Everyone is greedy.
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:34
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yet you are painting all whites with the same brush...Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.
That's because my Polish friend doesn't have a 4 page long rap sheet of convictions
Neither does Tim Scott the US senator from, SC. Yet he was stopped so many times as a senator and congressman. Even a Black senator isn't immune to cop harassment. How many WHITE US senator have ever been stopped by cops? THAT IS WHITE PRIVILEGE. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-scott-capitol-racism-senate-225507
I can't keep track of the countless times in the past few years whearas Blacks have made up incidents for no reason other than to claim racism.
i.e. The Black girls on the bus that took weeks for the video to be publicly shown that they were lying
The Black that did the hanging drawing in the University Library.
Countless situations.
Yes, what I'm saying is, that it's more than likely the Senator was creating the situation so that he could be seen as going to bat for the Blacks. I'd love to see the details of each stop.
Was he:
1 driving around in quiet wealthier neighborhoods at 3 am ? a white person would be stopped also
2 driving by a cop just to give a big racism smirk ?
3 intentionally driving with a broken tail light ? all white people are stopped for this also dummy
4 driving like a dumbass ? white people are also stopped for acting like an idiot behind a wheel
who are you? you seriously have an anger issue.
YES, I am ANGRY. Angry that I'm accused of being racist. It's simply a way for Black people to shirk their responsibilities for there poor performance in Society. Get off the white privilege BS and do something about the behavior that makes white people as well as other Black people question your motives and intentions. It's not my fault you grew up without a Father. Not my fault you flunked out of school because you though joining a gang was the smarter thing to do. Not my fault you can't obey simple commands from a Police Officer.
You have to get off equating ALL BLACKS by one broad brush. Whites should start taking responsibility for mass murders and not blame guns. Whites should stop blaming smarter asians becoming CEOs of big companies as equal opportunity at work. Asians out perform whites in every aspects and they need to work harder to catch up to higher asian standards. Whites in rural areas should stop being lazy, stop getting into heroin addiction and do something with their life.
To make a point so you GET IT.
I had your back at 15:27. Unfortunately they didn't get it....
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:33
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Yet you are painting all whites with the same brush...Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.
That's because my Polish friend doesn't have a 4 page long rap sheet of convictions
Neither does Tim Scott the US senator from, SC. Yet he was stopped so many times as a senator and congressman. Even a Black senator isn't immune to cop harassment. How many WHITE US senator have ever been stopped by cops? THAT IS WHITE PRIVILEGE. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-scott-capitol-racism-senate-225507
I can't keep track of the countless times in the past few years whearas Blacks have made up incidents for no reason other than to claim racism.
i.e. The Black girls on the bus that took weeks for the video to be publicly shown that they were lying
The Black that did the hanging drawing in the University Library.
Countless situations.
Yes, what I'm saying is, that it's more than likely the Senator was creating the situation so that he could be seen as going to bat for the Blacks. I'd love to see the details of each stop.
Was he:
1 driving around in quiet wealthier neighborhoods at 3 am ? a white person would be stopped also
2 driving by a cop just to give a big racism smirk ?
3 intentionally driving with a broken tail light ? all white people are stopped for this also dummy
4 driving like a dumbass ? white people are also stopped for acting like an idiot behind a wheel
who are you? you seriously have an anger issue.
YES, I am ANGRY. Angry that I'm accused of being racist. It's simply a way for Black people to shirk their responsibilities for there poor performance in Society. Get off the white privilege BS and do something about the behavior that makes white people as well as other Black people question your motives and intentions. It's not my fault you grew up without a Father. Not my fault you flunked out of school because you though joining a gang was the smarter thing to do. Not my fault you can't obey simple commands from a Police Officer.
You have to get off equating ALL BLACKS by one broad brush. Whites should start taking responsibility for mass murders and not blame guns. Whites should stop blaming smarter asians becoming CEOs of big companies as equal opportunity at work. Asians out perform whites in every aspects and they need to work harder to catch up to higher asian standards. Whites in rural areas should stop being lazy, stop getting into heroin addiction and do something with their life.
To make a point so you GET IT.
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:31
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.
You tell your Polish friend to walk into a bank and apply for a loan, any loan, from a personal to a small business or a home equity and then you tell them to compare their interest rate to that of a person of color who has an equal if not better credit score (assuming the person of color even got approved).
Sorry is it 1950 and there are only white bankers? At my local wells fargo everyone is either black. Hispanic or middle eastern. If i am white will the black banker favor me?
But the point is we aren't talking about individuals - we are talking about the system. Overall, minorities have a harder time getting loans.
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:30
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.
That's because my Polish friend doesn't have a 4 page long rap sheet of convictions
Neither does Tim Scott the US senator from, SC. Yet he was stopped so many times as a senator and congressman. Even a Black senator isn't immune to cop harassment. How many WHITE US senator have ever been stopped by cops? THAT IS WHITE PRIVILEGE. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-scott-capitol-racism-senate-225507
I can't keep track of the countless times in the past few years whearas Blacks have made up incidents for no reason other than to claim racism.
i.e. The Black girls on the bus that took weeks for the video to be publicly shown that they were lying
The Black that did the hanging drawing in the University Library.
Countless situations.
Yes, what I'm saying is, that it's more than likely the Senator was creating the situation so that he could be seen as going to bat for the Blacks. I'd love to see the details of each stop.
Was he:
1 driving around in quiet wealthier neighborhoods at 3 am ? a white person would be stopped also
2 driving by a cop just to give a big racism smirk ?
3 intentionally driving with a broken tail light ? all white people are stopped for this also dummy
4 driving like a dumbass ? white people are also stopped for acting like an idiot behind a wheel
who are you? you seriously have an anger issue.
YES, I am ANGRY. Angry that I'm accused of being racist. It's simply a way for Black people to shirk their responsibilities for there poor performance in Society. Get off the white privilege BS and do something about the behavior that makes white people as well as other Black people question your motives and intentions. It's not my fault you grew up without a Father. Not my fault you flunked out of school because you though joining a gang was the smarter thing to do. Not my fault you can't obey simple commands from a Police Officer.
+ 1 I agree with the PP. Even if we assume that there's some subtle form of white privilege, I'm seeing that black people use that as an excuse as to why, as a group, they are not doing as well as whites - rather than examine how they themselves contribute to unequal outcomes. Basically, it's a way of saying it's always someone else's fault. If blacks would do ONE thing that the majority of whites do, it would go a long way to reducing poverty, discouraging crime, creating families less dependent on welfare, and negating the stereotypes they are fighting against: Get married before you have a baby.
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:29
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.
You tell your Polish friend to walk into a bank and apply for a loan, any loan, from a personal to a small business or a home equity and then you tell them to compare their interest rate to that of a person of color who has an equal if not better credit score (assuming the person of color even got approved).
Sorry is it 1950 and there are only white bankers? At my local wells fargo everyone is either black. Hispanic or middle eastern. If i am white will the black banker favor me?
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:29
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Question: Are men more privileged than women in our society?
Answer: Yes
Question: So does that mean all men are sexist?
Answer: No it just means men have more advantages and don't have as many challenges in our society as women. It would be sexist to DENY the fact and therefore refuse to empathize with women who don't have such advantages and have to face such challenges.
Question: Are whites more privileged than people of color in our society?
Answer: Yes
Question: So does that mean all white people are racist?
Answer: No it just means whites have more advantages and don't have as many challenges in our society as people of color. It would be racist to DENY the fact and therefore refuse to empathize with people of color who don't have such advantages and have to face such challenges.
+1 I think one poster (or more) seem to feel that by admitting white privilege exists - it means they are racist. It does not.
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:27
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Question: Are men more privileged than women in our society?
Answer: Yes
Question: So does that mean all men are sexist?
Answer: No it just means men have more advantages and don't have as many challenges in our society as women. It would be sexist to DENY the fact and therefore refuse to empathize with women who don't have such advantages and have to face such challenges.
Question: Are whites more privileged than people of color in our society?
Answer: Yes
Question: So does that mean all white people are racist?
Answer: No it just means whites have more advantages and don't have as many challenges in our society as people of color. It would be racist to DENY the fact and therefore refuse to empathize with people of color who don't have such advantages and have to face such challenges.
Answer: Yes
Question: So does that mean all men are sexist?
Answer: No it just means men have more advantages and don't have as many challenges in our society as women. It would be sexist to DENY the fact and therefore refuse to empathize with women who don't have such advantages and have to face such challenges.
Question: Are whites more privileged than people of color in our society?
Answer: Yes
Question: So does that mean all white people are racist?
Answer: No it just means whites have more advantages and don't have as many challenges in our society as people of color. It would be racist to DENY the fact and therefore refuse to empathize with people of color who don't have such advantages and have to face such challenges.
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:27
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Yet you are painting all whites with the same brush...Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.
That's because my Polish friend doesn't have a 4 page long rap sheet of convictions
Neither does Tim Scott the US senator from, SC. Yet he was stopped so many times as a senator and congressman. Even a Black senator isn't immune to cop harassment. How many WHITE US senator have ever been stopped by cops? THAT IS WHITE PRIVILEGE. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-scott-capitol-racism-senate-225507
I can't keep track of the countless times in the past few years whearas Blacks have made up incidents for no reason other than to claim racism.
i.e. The Black girls on the bus that took weeks for the video to be publicly shown that they were lying
The Black that did the hanging drawing in the University Library.
Countless situations.
Yes, what I'm saying is, that it's more than likely the Senator was creating the situation so that he could be seen as going to bat for the Blacks. I'd love to see the details of each stop.
Was he:
1 driving around in quiet wealthier neighborhoods at 3 am ? a white person would be stopped also
2 driving by a cop just to give a big racism smirk ?
3 intentionally driving with a broken tail light ? all white people are stopped for this also dummy
4 driving like a dumbass ? white people are also stopped for acting like an idiot behind a wheel
who are you? you seriously have an anger issue.
YES, I am ANGRY. Angry that I'm accused of being racist. It's simply a way for Black people to shirk their responsibilities for there poor performance in Society. Get off the white privilege BS and do something about the behavior that makes white people as well as other Black people question your motives and intentions. It's not my fault you grew up without a Father. Not my fault you flunked out of school because you though joining a gang was the smarter thing to do. Not my fault you can't obey simple commands from a Police Officer.
You have to get off equating ALL BLACKS by one broad brush. Whites should start taking responsibility for mass murders and not blame guns. Whites should stop blaming smarter asians becoming CEOs of big companies as equal opportunity at work. Asians out perform whites in every aspects and they need to work harder to catch up to higher asian standards. Whites in rural areas should stop being lazy, stop getting into heroin addiction and do something with their life.
I'm pretty sure PP was just making the same sweeping generalizations as the previous poster to make a point.
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:27
Subject: Re:So Called White Priviledge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I once found myself...alone at night....in a deserted area....in a city well-known for crime. (How I got there is a long story....basically, I was stupid.) I was waiting for a bus to get me the hell out of there, when from around the corner down the street appeared five black males. Late teens, I'd say. They walked half-way up the block, saw me, stopped in their tracks, looked at each other, then kept approaching. They were within 20 feet of me when the bus pulled up and I jumped in. I will admit I was scared to death. So I ask....who here thinks I'm racist, and who here thinks that is a normal reaction from a female, alone at 11 pm, in a deserted abandoned area. Im just curious.....
Well your reaction is normal for anyone, females especially. But then those 5 men could be white and still you should be afraid. There is a difference between situations where your self preservation instincts take over and racism.
Huh? Her point is if she was in Georgetown at the same time, and 5 white male Georgetown students turned the corner she would not be afraid. However, since it was 5 black kids she was. Does that make her racist?
Anonymous
10/07/2016 15:21
Subject: So Called White Priviledge
Yet you are painting all whites with the same brush...Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tell your Polish friend to commit a crime, any crime, from jaywalking to murder and then you tell them to compare the circumstances of their arrest and the harshness of their sentence (if any) to that of a person of color who committed the same crime.
That's because my Polish friend doesn't have a 4 page long rap sheet of convictions
Neither does Tim Scott the US senator from, SC. Yet he was stopped so many times as a senator and congressman. Even a Black senator isn't immune to cop harassment. How many WHITE US senator have ever been stopped by cops? THAT IS WHITE PRIVILEGE. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-scott-capitol-racism-senate-225507
I can't keep track of the countless times in the past few years whearas Blacks have made up incidents for no reason other than to claim racism.
i.e. The Black girls on the bus that took weeks for the video to be publicly shown that they were lying
The Black that did the hanging drawing in the University Library.
Countless situations.
Yes, what I'm saying is, that it's more than likely the Senator was creating the situation so that he could be seen as going to bat for the Blacks. I'd love to see the details of each stop.
Was he:
1 driving around in quiet wealthier neighborhoods at 3 am ? a white person would be stopped also
2 driving by a cop just to give a big racism smirk ?
3 intentionally driving with a broken tail light ? all white people are stopped for this also dummy
4 driving like a dumbass ? white people are also stopped for acting like an idiot behind a wheel
who are you? you seriously have an anger issue.
YES, I am ANGRY. Angry that I'm accused of being racist. It's simply a way for Black people to shirk their responsibilities for there poor performance in Society. Get off the white privilege BS and do something about the behavior that makes white people as well as other Black people question your motives and intentions. It's not my fault you grew up without a Father. Not my fault you flunked out of school because you though joining a gang was the smarter thing to do. Not my fault you can't obey simple commands from a Police Officer.
You have to get off equating ALL BLACKS by one broad brush. Whites should start taking responsibility for mass murders and not blame guns. Whites should stop blaming smarter asians becoming CEOs of big companies as equal opportunity at work. Asians out perform whites in every aspects and they need to work harder to catch up to higher asian standards. Whites in rural areas should stop being lazy, stop getting into heroin addiction and do something with their life.