Anonymous wrote:I'm a Muslim woman, and I wear my scarf proudly. Last year, I went to attend our office manager's husband funeral at a baptist church. There were few people who seemed to be all related to the deceased man. The priest started his speech calling for non- believers to convert, and went on saying if you think your Muhammad will save you from hell you are wrong and you will burn and that is okay to feel shy and not raise your hand to accept Jesus as your savior, but you should think about it.. It was an ackward situation, I felt the entire speech was directed at me. I was the only Muslim in that funeral so Duh. I still remained calm, although I was tempted to raise my hand and correct some of his facts about Islam- but I decided not to out of respect for the family of the deceased. I had to remind myself that I chose to be in that church so I just have to zip it till end of service. At the end, I went and gave my condolences to our office manager and she was shocked to see me and asked if I were present during entire service- I smiled and said yes but don't worry about it.
Anonymous wrote:I mean, were they all child molesters at this church, op? Did they force you to handle snakes?
I would have been uncomfortable, too. But unless you feared for your safety, so what? You were uncomfortable for a few days. I dont understand why you think this was such an unacceptable thing for them to do. Bringing a friend to church while they were under my parents care is exactly what my own parents did and what most other parents I knew did. Uncomfortable, sure. Egregious, not really.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The absolute worst was when I was about 12 or 13. My parents went to Friday night services, and I got permission to skip it that evening. I was sitting in the family room, watching TV, when two boys from down the street (also around 12 or 13) walked into the house (we didn't lock doors bwck in those days), walked past me, and into the kitchen where our Shabbat candles were lit. I followed them in, just as they blew out the candles. They looked at me with hate and said, "that's what we think of your G.D. religion." Then they walked out (and I was actually relieved they didn't hurt me).
I didn't know what to do. We are not allowed to light candles after Shabbat starts, so my parents would see the half-burned candles and I'd have to tell them what happened. That would mean Dad would go over to the boys' house (they were brothers) and tell their father - and they would have been punished bigtime. But those boys would have made my life at school a complete nightmare as "payback." So....I re-lit the candles and never told my parents.
P.S. One of those boys grew up to be a very famous rapist. If I gave his name, you all would know it.
Well now you have to tell us the name. Come on.
Anonymous wrote:The absolute worst was when I was about 12 or 13. My parents went to Friday night services, and I got permission to skip it that evening. I was sitting in the family room, watching TV, when two boys from down the street (also around 12 or 13) walked into the house (we didn't lock doors bwck in those days), walked past me, and into the kitchen where our Shabbat candles were lit. I followed them in, just as they blew out the candles. They looked at me with hate and said, "that's what we think of your G.D. religion." Then they walked out (and I was actually relieved they didn't hurt me).
I didn't know what to do. We are not allowed to light candles after Shabbat starts, so my parents would see the half-burned candles and I'd have to tell them what happened. That would mean Dad would go over to the boys' house (they were brothers) and tell their father - and they would have been punished bigtime. But those boys would have made my life at school a complete nightmare as "payback." So....I re-lit the candles and never told my parents.
P.S. One of those boys grew up to be a very famous rapist. If I gave his name, you all would know it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No no no no no, dear. You didn't read carefully. OP is the child of a SINGLE MOTHER. There are no PARENTS involved. It was mama -- alone -- who was working and needed childcare. (Perhaps that was part of the problem?) So, like many of us do when we're desperate, she relied on the help of these friends of her daughters. What part of that is being dense on my part? You, clearly, have your own issues.
From victim-shaming to single-mom-shaming. Just wow.
VICTIM-shaming?!?!? LOL. OP was NOT a victim of anything. Get a grip, lady!
+1. The poster "defending" OP has clearly lost all sense of perspective.
Lol, the PP who thinks shaming a single mom ("Perhaps that was part of the problem?" - are you fucking kidding me?) is the one who has lost perspective here. There are a whole bunch of angry, defensive folks who took PP's thread into a whole new context because beating up a straw man is a lot easier than having a normal discussion about boundary-pushing in religious situations. In other words, typical DCUM.
OMG you have issues. Nobody, but nobody was shaming single moms. I say this as a single mom.
Your hatred of religion has turned you into a freak show.
Guess what? I'm religious, and even practice in one of the sects of Christianity. If you have serious reading comprehension problems like 90% of the trolls here, good luck to you. Out of the thread.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No no no no no, dear. You didn't read carefully. OP is the child of a SINGLE MOTHER. There are no PARENTS involved. It was mama -- alone -- who was working and needed childcare. (Perhaps that was part of the problem?) So, like many of us do when we're desperate, she relied on the help of these friends of her daughters. What part of that is being dense on my part? You, clearly, have your own issues.
From victim-shaming to single-mom-shaming. Just wow.
VICTIM-shaming?!?!? LOL. OP was NOT a victim of anything. Get a grip, lady!
+1. The poster "defending" OP has clearly lost all sense of perspective.
Lol, the PP who thinks shaming a single mom ("Perhaps that was part of the problem?" - are you fucking kidding me?) is the one who has lost perspective here. There are a whole bunch of angry, defensive folks who took PP's thread into a whole new context because beating up a straw man is a lot easier than having a normal discussion about boundary-pushing in religious situations. In other words, typical DCUM.
OMG you have issues. Nobody, but nobody was shaming single moms. I say this as a single mom.
Your hatred of religion has turned you into a freak show.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No no no no no, dear. You didn't read carefully. OP is the child of a SINGLE MOTHER. There are no PARENTS involved. It was mama -- alone -- who was working and needed childcare. (Perhaps that was part of the problem?) So, like many of us do when we're desperate, she relied on the help of these friends of her daughters. What part of that is being dense on my part? You, clearly, have your own issues.
From victim-shaming to single-mom-shaming. Just wow.
VICTIM-shaming?!?!? LOL. OP was NOT a victim of anything. Get a grip, lady!
+1. The poster "defending" OP has clearly lost all sense of perspective.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No no no no no, dear. You didn't read carefully. OP is the child of a SINGLE MOTHER. There are no PARENTS involved. It was mama -- alone -- who was working and needed childcare. (Perhaps that was part of the problem?) So, like many of us do when we're desperate, she relied on the help of these friends of her daughters. What part of that is being dense on my part? You, clearly, have your own issues.
From victim-shaming to single-mom-shaming. Just wow.
VICTIM-shaming?!?!? LOL. OP was NOT a victim of anything. Get a grip, lady!
+1. The poster "defending" OP has clearly lost all sense of perspective.
Lol, the PP who thinks shaming a single mom ("Perhaps that was part of the problem?" - are you fucking kidding me?) is the one who has lost perspective here. There are a whole bunch of angry, defensive folks who took PP's thread into a whole new context because beating up a straw man is a lot easier than having a normal discussion about boundary-pushing in religious situations. In other words, typical DCUM.