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Anonymous wrote:I live in Bowie and commute to D.C. I have neighbors who do the same. Some take the MARC; others drive.

It's actually a shorter commute than it would be from Silver Spring or Bethesda.

A lot depends on where in D.C. you are commuting to, whether you can avoid the beltway and some of the major chokepoints.

But whatever. I wish this thread would get closed. I'm tired of reading what people who don't live in Bowie have to say about a commute they never make or a neighborhood they're completely unfamiliar with.

When people are accused of racism for not moving to a particular area, that is sort of hard to avoid.

Anonymous wrote:I live in Bowie and commute to D.C. I have neighbors who do the same. Some take the MARC; others drive.

It's actually a shorter commute than it would be from Silver Spring or Bethesda.

A lot depends on where in D.C. you are commuting to, whether you can avoid the beltway and some of the major chokepoints.

But whatever. I wish this thread would get closed. I'm tired of reading what people who don't live in Bowie have to say about a commute they never make or a neighborhood they're completely unfamiliar with.

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Anonymous wrote:Annapolis is relevant to the Bowie question, though. When I lived in Bowie, we went to Annapolis very often, as it was only a 15 min drive, and it was a nice benefit of living in Bowie.

Also, the person talking about crime at the town center might be thinking of period about a decade ago, when there was a rash of crime at the parking lot at the town center (even then it was mostly robbing, not stabbing). Bowie residents voted to create a Bowie police force, which now heavily polices the town center.

I agree with a PP that a lot of people knocking Bowie are just racist.

Not liking Bowie = Racism?

most people who knock bowie probably do so because of racist views.

+1 I've given up having the debate with people, because I've found that the more I drill down, the more it becomes apparent that the real issue is racism. Look at all of the posts here that are basically saying that PG property won't increase in value until white people move to PG. That's pretty sad, especially when we're talking about liberal, educated people -- the very same people who will make jokes about how racist and backwards West Virginia or the South is.

I am not sure I can make the same leap of logic you can about the racism. Most educated people can agree PG has been held back because of redlining and . Also it is no doubt hard to plant community roots as a place on the up & up when it's primary demographic is one of the most if not the most disenfranchised in the country. That said not wanting to move there and subject one's self and family to all the negativity that such environments entail doesn't make you racist, it makes you realistic and less likely to be an unintended casualty.

I don't pretend to know what's the answers to society's problems are but I do know it isn't the worse idea to avoid the epicenters of where people are complaining about such things as disproportionate policing, predatory banking, commercial redlining, political corruption and systemic school failures just to name a few. It isn't DCUM who is undercutting the narrative of quality in PG, it is every news cycle. Property values matter

Your assumption that just because PG is majority black that the entire county is "plagued" by all these things and that you are going to be an "unintended casualty" (talk about hyperbolic!!) is...

sort of racist.

One of the founders of Google grew up in PG, people. It's not some sort of inner city nightmare. It's a suburb with a lot of black people. Who are you guys trying to fool?

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Anonymous wrote:Annapolis is relevant to the Bowie question, though. When I lived in Bowie, we went to Annapolis very often, as it was only a 15 min drive, and it was a nice benefit of living in Bowie.

Also, the person talking about crime at the town center might be thinking of period about a decade ago, when there was a rash of crime at the parking lot at the town center (even then it was mostly robbing, not stabbing). Bowie residents voted to create a Bowie police force, which now heavily polices the town center.

I agree with a PP that a lot of people knocking Bowie are just racist.

Not liking Bowie = Racism?

most people who knock bowie probably do so because of racist views.

+1 I've given up having the debate with people, because I've found that the more I drill down, the more it becomes apparent that the real issue is racism. Look at all of the posts here that are basically saying that PG property won't increase in value until white people move to PG. That's pretty sad, especially when we're talking about liberal, educated people -- the very same people who will make jokes about how racist and backwards West Virginia or the South is.

I am not sure I can make the same leap of logic you can about the racism. Most educated people can agree PG has been held back because of redlining and . Also it is no doubt hard to plant community roots as a place on the up & up when it's primary demographic is one of the most if not the most disenfranchised in the country. That said not wanting to move there and subject one's self and family to all the negativity that such environments entail doesn't make you racist, it makes you realistic and less likely to be an unintended casualty.

I don't pretend to know what's the answers to society's problems are but I do know it isn't the worse idea to avoid the epicenters of where people are complaining about such things as disproportionate policing, predatory banking, commercial redlining, political corruption and systemic school failures just to name a few. It isn't DCUM who is undercutting the narrative of quality in PG, it is every news cycle. Property values matter

Anonymous wrote:I live in Bowie and commute to D.C. I have neighbors who do the same. Some take the MARC; others drive.

It's actually a shorter commute than it would be from Silver Spring or Bethesda.

A lot depends on where in D.C. you are commuting to, whether you can avoid the beltway and some of the major chokepoints.

But whatever. I wish this thread would get closed. I'm tired of reading what people who don't live in Bowie have to say about a commute they never make or a neighborhood they're completely unfamiliar with.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 2 colleagues, one lives in Lanham, one lives in N.Arlington both are minorities. The one in Lanham paid $260k for a SFH in Lanham in 1995, the house is worth 350k(as per him), the one in N.Arlington paid 295k for a SFH in 22207 in 1998, the house is worth 1.2million. Both are friends and the contrast in two situations is so stark to me.

I completely agree that your house should not be a part of your investment portfolio but the difference in wealth acquired will reverberate for generations. I know so many professionals who live in PG, they have gained little in real estate wealth. Things may change but these are the facts and realities of today. So, Bowie must be nice but things are good as long as you go there with realistic expectations and knowing that you may not amass much in real estate wealth.

those are things no one can predict. In 1995 Arlington was not poppin

Anonymous wrote:I have 2 colleagues, one lives in Lanham, one lives in N.Arlington both are minorities. The one in Lanham paid $260k for a SFH in Lanham in 1995, the house is worth 350k(as per him), the one in N.Arlington paid 295k for a SFH in 22207 in 1998, the house is worth 1.2million. Both are friends and the contrast in two situations is so stark to me.

I completely agree that your house should not be a part of your investment portfolio but the difference in wealth acquired will reverberate for generations. I know so many professionals who live in PG, they have gained little in real estate wealth. Things may change but these are the facts and realities of today. So, Bowie must be nice but things are good as long as you go there with realistic expectations and knowing that you may not amass much in real estate wealth.

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You are confusing indavidgule biases and sociatial bias on a whole. You are confusing the way it morally should be and the way it is. The question isn't how should people look at Bowie, the question is how do people look at Bowie?

Yes MoCo is starting to be judged by it's increasingly minority majority, have you not seen the snark coming out of fairfax and Arlington. Yes MoCo is experiencing a form of white flight which is partially responsible to the explosion of prices in other places. As to people hating on PG and pulling up bull shit statistics that are out of context or just down right lies, so what? It is just them trying to put into words what nobody can say. The majority of people have no intrest of moving to a majority black area and never have in the entire history of the country. We are simply not there yet. And if you use DC as an example the few little inner pockets of PG that are reversing that trend it would be glossing over the reality that it is happening by using economic pressure which installs a faith that the areas will turn whiter because of low general black wealth. Bowie is the opposite with it's high level of black wealth which means it's black majority isn't going anywhere. I have never met a gentrifier that didn't give me a status of their newly beloved areas's "improvement" within 30sec of being told where they live. What do we think improvement means. Number of new residents vs old. How are hippsters going to push out people who have more money then them?

Places turn white when a richer demographic deems it desirable and starts buying it up, the likelyhood of richer white people targeting Bowie from an already affluent black population is low. Until then it will continue to be pragmatic and open minded people here and there until race relations improve and it can be judged on it's own merits.