Anonymous
08/19/2016 07:00
Subject: Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:I trolled on this thread as being against FA, not bc I am (I am for it) but instead bc I thought no one actually took anything on DCUM seriously. Then it hit me that some people do take DCUM posts seriously and I felt horrific. So I'm not trolling anymore (at least not on FA). I think FA is great. I got FA when I was a kid bc my family was flat broke - I don't need FA now and am very happy to pay for others who need it, just like people did for me back in the day.
You need a new hobby.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 23:00
Subject: Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:I trolled on this thread as being against FA, not bc I am (I am for it) but instead bc I thought no one actually took anything on DCUM seriously. Then it hit me that some people do take DCUM posts seriously and I felt horrific. So I'm not trolling anymore (at least not on FA). I think FA is great. I got FA when I was a kid bc my family was flat broke - I don't need FA now and am very happy to pay for others who need it, just like people did for me back in the day.
If this is true, then that's pretty funny!
Anonymous
08/18/2016 20:14
Subject: Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
I trolled on this thread as being against FA, not bc I am (I am for it) but instead bc I thought no one actually took anything on DCUM seriously. Then it hit me that some people do take DCUM posts seriously and I felt horrific. So I'm not trolling anymore (at least not on FA). I think FA is great. I got FA when I was a kid bc my family was flat broke - I don't need FA now and am very happy to pay for others who need it, just like people did for me back in the day.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 19:42
Subject: Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote: If you consider someone who lives in a 3000 square foot house poor, then yes I'm poor.
Depends. Is it 3000 square feet above grade?
Anonymous
08/18/2016 17:15
Subject: Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't be upset that I'm not poor AND was smart and savvy enough to figure out how to get financial aid for my DC.
So you steal.
Nope. To steal is to take something from someone without their knowledge or consent. I applied for FA, fully disclosed my income and responded to every single question asked of me. I did not lie. I did not hide assets. I did not under report or over report. My DC's school reviewed my application and made me an offer. I accepted. Just because I am not poor does not mean I do not have financial obligations that made me an acceptable candidate for financial aid. Like I said, you might want to take a look at that MEDIAN income chart and ask yourself exactly what does it mean to be poor before you start calling someone "poor" like its a bad word or a disgraceful thing. Check you rich (if you are even rich -- I doubt it) egotistical crap at the door.
OK, then you are poor. Own it.
You really think someone paying 15k instead of 40k tuition is poor? Get a grip.
We are paying about $25K and getting about $15K in FA. I wish it were only $15K. LOL.
Sorry, I am pp and was not referring to your situation in particular but more in general talking about fa recipients. According to Sidwell in 2015-2016, 23% of our students will receive financial aid support with an average aid award of $25,708, which covers two-thirds of the average tuition cost.
Ah ok! Understood! The figures are pretty similar at my DCs school.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 17:10
Subject: Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't be upset that I'm not poor AND was smart and savvy enough to figure out how to get financial aid for my DC.
So you steal.
Nope. To steal is to take something from someone without their knowledge or consent. I applied for FA, fully disclosed my income and responded to every single question asked of me. I did not lie. I did not hide assets. I did not under report or over report. My DC's school reviewed my application and made me an offer. I accepted. Just because I am not poor does not mean I do not have financial obligations that made me an acceptable candidate for financial aid. Like I said, you might want to take a look at that MEDIAN income chart and ask yourself exactly what does it mean to be poor before you start calling someone "poor" like its a bad word or a disgraceful thing. Check you rich (if you are even rich -- I doubt it) egotistical crap at the door.
OK, then you are poor. Own it.
You really think someone paying 15k instead of 40k tuition is poor? Get a grip.
We are paying about $25K and getting about $15K in FA. I wish it were only $15K. LOL.
Sorry, I am pp and was not referring to your situation in particular but more in general talking about fa recipients. According to Sidwell in 2015-2016, 23% of our students will receive financial aid support with an average aid award of $25,708, which covers two-thirds of the average tuition cost.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 16:57
Subject: Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't be upset that I'm not poor AND was smart and savvy enough to figure out how to get financial aid for my DC.
So you steal.
Nope. To steal is to take something from someone without their knowledge or consent. I applied for FA, fully disclosed my income and responded to every single question asked of me. I did not lie. I did not hide assets. I did not under report or over report. My DC's school reviewed my application and made me an offer. I accepted. Just because I am not poor does not mean I do not have financial obligations that made me an acceptable candidate for financial aid. Like I said, you might want to take a look at that MEDIAN income chart and ask yourself exactly what does it mean to be poor before you start calling someone "poor" like its a bad word or a disgraceful thing. Check you rich (if you are even rich -- I doubt it) egotistical crap at the door.
OK, then you are poor. Own it.
You really think someone paying 15k instead of 40k tuition is poor? Get a grip.
We are paying about $25K and getting about $15K in FA. I wish it were only $15K. LOL.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 16:55
Subject: Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't be upset that I'm not poor AND was smart and savvy enough to figure out how to get financial aid for my DC.
So you steal.
Nope. To steal is to take something from someone without their knowledge or consent. I applied for FA, fully disclosed my income and responded to every single question asked of me. I did not lie. I did not hide assets. I did not under report or over report. My DC's school reviewed my application and made me an offer. I accepted. Just because I am not poor does not mean I do not have financial obligations that made me an acceptable candidate for financial aid. Like I said, you might want to take a look at that MEDIAN income chart and ask yourself exactly what does it mean to be poor before you start calling someone "poor" like its a bad word or a disgraceful thing. Check you rich (if you are even rich -- I doubt it) egotistical crap at the door.
OK, then you are poor. Own it.
If you consider a HHI of $250K poor, then yes I'm poor. If you consider someone who drives a luxury SUV poor, then yes I'm poor. If you consider someone who lives in a 3000 square foot house poor, then yes I'm poor.
I do not consider myself poor and I suspect none on DCUM (based on prior threads) would consider me poor. I however, am not rich by wealthy standards. I don't own a summer beach home. I don't own a boat. I don't own a home without a mortgage. I don't travel to the Apls or go on month long African Safari vacations. See there is a huge gap between being poor and being rich. It's called MIDDLE CLASS!
Anonymous
08/18/2016 16:47
Subject: Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't be upset that I'm not poor AND was smart and savvy enough to figure out how to get financial aid for my DC.
So you steal.
Nope. To steal is to take something from someone without their knowledge or consent. I applied for FA, fully disclosed my income and responded to every single question asked of me. I did not lie. I did not hide assets. I did not under report or over report. My DC's school reviewed my application and made me an offer. I accepted. Just because I am not poor does not mean I do not have financial obligations that made me an acceptable candidate for financial aid. Like I said, you might want to take a look at that MEDIAN income chart and ask yourself exactly what does it mean to be poor before you start calling someone "poor" like its a bad word or a disgraceful thing. Check you rich (if you are even rich -- I doubt it) egotistical crap at the door.
OK, then you are poor. Own it.
You really think someone paying 15k instead of 40k tuition is poor? Get a grip.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 16:42
Subject: Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't be upset that I'm not poor AND was smart and savvy enough to figure out how to get financial aid for my DC.
So you steal.
Nope. To steal is to take something from someone without their knowledge or consent. I applied for FA, fully disclosed my income and responded to every single question asked of me. I did not lie. I did not hide assets. I did not under report or over report. My DC's school reviewed my application and made me an offer. I accepted. Just because I am not poor does not mean I do not have financial obligations that made me an acceptable candidate for financial aid. Like I said, you might want to take a look at that MEDIAN income chart and ask yourself exactly what does it mean to be poor before you start calling someone "poor" like its a bad word or a disgraceful thing. Check you rich (if you are even rich -- I doubt it) egotistical crap at the door.
OK, then you are poor. Own it.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 16:12
Subject: Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:I knew a family at Norwood who boasted about the fact their employers paid 75% of their kids school fees. They mentioned it every single time that we saw them. It got old, fast.
Whoa. Where did they work??
Anonymous
08/18/2016 15:18
Subject: Re:Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/45907/jewish/Eight-Levels-of-Charity.htm
I would offer that some posters on this thread have achieved level [9]: a still even lesser level is when one gives reluctantly, preens about it, and then expects gratitude from the recipients - but only the ones that the giver deems less worthy.
+1 bingo! Love the list.
NP. This thread is bizarre. Do FA recipients really think so little of donors?
Why don't you ask the other way around?
It seems from this thread and others that donors in fact think very little of fa recipients.
I supposed you could say 'and vice-versa' but since the FA recipients are the ones depending upon the donors, I'd say it's the donors impressions you would be most concerned about. BTW, I think the vast majority of donors just want to see their donations well spent.
Sorry, but I disagree that the donors impressions matter more. This is once again you placing more value on one person than the other because of their financial status. The impressions and opinions of both the donor and FA recipient equally manner. Once is not more deserving than the other.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 12:32
Subject: Re:Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/45907/jewish/Eight-Levels-of-Charity.htm
I would offer that some posters on this thread have achieved level [9]: a still even lesser level is when one gives reluctantly, preens about it, and then expects gratitude from the recipients - but only the ones that the giver deems less worthy.
+1 bingo! Love the list.
NP. This thread is bizarre. Do FA recipients really think so little of donors?
Why don't you ask the other way around?
It seems from this thread and others that donors in fact think very little of fa recipients.
I supposed you could say 'and vice-versa' but since the FA recipients are the ones depending upon the donors, I'd say it's the donors impressions you would be most concerned about. BTW, I think the vast majority of donors just want to see their donations well spent.
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:47
Subject: Re:Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/45907/jewish/Eight-Levels-of-Charity.htm
I would offer that some posters on this thread have achieved level [9]: a still even lesser level is when one gives reluctantly, preens about it, and then expects gratitude from the recipients - but only the ones that the giver deems less worthy.
+1 bingo! Love the list.
NP. This thread is bizarre. Do FA recipients really think so little of donors?
Why don't you ask the other way around?
It seems from this thread and others that donors in fact think very little of fa recipients.
Bingo! Like referring to someone as the "poors."
Anonymous
08/18/2016 11:47
Subject: Re:Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/45907/jewish/Eight-Levels-of-Charity.htm
I would offer that some posters on this thread have achieved level [9]: a still even lesser level is when one gives reluctantly, preens about it, and then expects gratitude from the recipients - but only the ones that the giver deems less worthy.
+1 bingo! Love the list.
NP. This thread is bizarre. Do FA recipients really think so little of donors?
I do not think little of donors at all. What I think little of are people who come on this board and do nothing more than berate those of us on FA, accuse of us stealing, being lazy, expecting/wanting something for nothing, etc. etc. etc. It's condescending and simply not true. I am GRATEFUL for the generosity of everyone who chooses to give regardless of their reasons. However, to expect me to be OK with being subjected to their rudeness simply because they have more zeros in their bank account than I do is unacceptable and intolerable. My DC's school costs close to $40K. I pay $25K of that every year, plus I donate to the annual fund. Yet, somehow I am poor, lazy, ungrateful? Seriously? Because I cannot afford to full pay $40K a year that makes me less than? $25K is a lot of money. Heck, that is the annual salary of some. I do not and will not apologize, nor do I feel any shame, for accepting $15K a year in financial aid for my DC to receive what I believe is an outstanding education. The idea that I should is simply mind boggling quite frankly. Again people don't seem to understand what gratitude actually means.