Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 08:05     Subject: Re:2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Mouse is going to need to lawyer up. Big time.


Yes, good point. I'm sure that one of the world's largest corporations, which happens to run the most popular vacation destination in the world, has absolutely no in-house attorneys, nor have they ever dealt with someone dying on property.

They're probably looking for a lawyer in the Yellow Pages right now.


I sued Disney once. They sent 26 lawyers to a case management conference. It was like Mr. Burns' legal team in the Simpsons
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 08:05     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"So far, no. I suspect there will be a lot more dead gators from that lake. If anything, I think Disney is likely to use this to get whatever waivers they need to cull alligators on their property more ruthlessly. "

Good. I hope they start culling statewide, and throughout the Southeast. Enough with the stupid environmentalists. The gators are a dangerous nuisance. They should have died out with the dinosaurs. Biologically, they're much, much older than us. They've had a good run, now it's time to go.


When you remove in animals natural predators, other species are allowed to flourish, and then become problems. We can just remove one creature from the ecosystem everything to me fine.


What other species? Pelicans? I'm OK with that.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 08:03     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:OMG. How is it possible that they have gators on their property?!?! You'd think it was a man-made lagoon free of gators.


It's Florida. No body of water is free of gators. Ergo the signs saying "no swimming."
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 08:03     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Geez all the back and forth- this baby was two years old. Can you even imagine the terror and trauma? Imagine being his mom or dad witnessing such a thing happening to to their little boy and completely unable to stop it?

If that happened to my precious boy (my only child) I would be done and looking for an exit strategy.


It's a reason some parents choose to have two. That sounds cold, but it's true.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 08:02     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:"So far, no. I suspect there will be a lot more dead gators from that lake. If anything, I think Disney is likely to use this to get whatever waivers they need to cull alligators on their property more ruthlessly. "

Good. I hope they start culling statewide, and throughout the Southeast. Enough with the stupid environmentalists. The gators are a dangerous nuisance. They should have died out with the dinosaurs. Biologically, they're much, much older than us. They've had a good run, now it's time to go.


When you remove in animals natural predators, other species are allowed to flourish, and then become problems. We can just remove one creature from the ecosystem everything to me fine.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:59     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:How is Disney negligent if there are signs that say not to go into the water? I'm serious.
[b]

+ 1
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:59     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.


Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."
[b]

9:30pm is dusk? I wouldn't be in the water at night by no swimming signs with any other the kids I work with. Who doesn't know about alligators and fresh water?


Not PP, but by that logic, there probably shouldn't be any warning signs about alligators elsewhere in Florida, right? Because everybody already knows about alligators and fresh water?
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:59     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
How is Disney negligent if there are signs that say not to go into the water? I'm serious.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:58     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disney was negligent.

Every family that witnessed the tragedy will sue. Disney will quickly settle, paying through the nose and securing no disclosure agreements to prevent interviews, and signs will be posted all over the property (to shift risk).


I'm sure they will get money but Disney wasn't negligent. Nature happens. An alligator, indigenous to fresh water in Florida and animals who feed at night, got into a pond on Disney property. Shit happens. It's tragic but it's the first time it's ever happened in this park that serves millions of visitors so to say it was negligence isn't fair. It was an unfortunate accident.


+1. If I were on a jury for this case, knowing the facts currently available, I wouldn't award any money. Disney cannot control the alligator population on its property.

As for the posters claiming eyewitnesses will be able to sue, you clearly know nothing about the law.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:57     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
A four year old in a playpen is probably special needs.

I don think the parents or Disney were negligent if the child was just playing on the edge of the water. Sometimes terrible things just happen.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:56     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
If anyone is able to prove the Disney let the guests feed the alligators, they're screwed. That's negligent.

Alligators will be alligators, but we don't need to invite them to hang out with us. Huge, alligator-like creatures predate dinosaurs and haven't really evolved much from then. Their brains are not advanced.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:56     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.


Because it's a recreational beach at dusk? It's a mistake; it's not "bad parenting."
[b]

9:30pm is dusk? I wouldn't be in the water at night by no swimming signs with any other the kids I work with. Who doesn't know about alligators and fresh water?
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:55     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- Why would the parents (even if they didn't know about alligators, which is weird since its FLORIDA) be playing with a toddler in the dark by the water? This makes no sense. I feel awful for the family, but this is just really bad parenting. Not thinking about gators in a state known for gators, playing in the water, by signs that tell you not to go in the water.


maybe its not dark at 9.30. When we went in April was was lighter a lot later than here. Given that its still light here at 8.45 right now it could be still light down there at 9/9.30
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:55     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disney was negligent.

Every family that witnessed the tragedy will sue. Disney will quickly settle, paying through the nose and securing no disclosure agreements to prevent interviews, and signs will be posted all over the property (to shift risk).


I'm sure they will get money but Disney wasn't negligent. Nature happens. An alligator, indigenous to fresh water in Florida and animals who feed at night, got into a pond on Disney property. Shit happens. It's tragic but it's the first time it's ever happened in this park that serves millions of visitors so to say it was negligence isn't fair. It was an unfortunate accident.


Exactly. I am betting that those that insist signs should be posted all over the Disney property also agree that all establishments selling coffee should have a warning on the cup that says, “Caution: contents are hot.” Or, warnings on a blender that says: “Caution: do not put hand in blender when blender is on.”
These are the type of truly ridiculous warnings that have resulted from stupid lawsuits.


All coffee cups have that warning specifically to avoid potential lawsuits...which is smart.

Disney gambled and lost by not posting signs.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2016 07:50     Subject: 2 Year Old Dragged into Water by Gator at Disney Resort
"So far, no. I suspect there will be a lot more dead gators from that lake. If anything, I think Disney is likely to use this to get whatever waivers they need to cull alligators on their property more ruthlessly. "

Good. I hope they start culling statewide, and throughout the Southeast. Enough with the stupid environmentalists. The gators are a dangerous nuisance. They should have died out with the dinosaurs. Biologically, they're much, much older than us. They've had a good run, now it's time to go.