Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 15:48     Subject: Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Anonymous wrote:I have two sets of friends on facebook who LOVE Trump and are campaigning for him. The super rich (I figure they think he'll lower their taxes) and the very poor and uneducated (I think they're hoping for less taxes and more laws being enforced).




Laws, by their very definition, should be enforced. WTF?
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 15:45     Subject: Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Anonymous wrote:My brother likes Trump. He's ex-military (served in Afghanistan) and thinks the Islamic religion has no place in the US since it is a vehicle for violence.

My brother is also a moron. He's also the human version of an internet troll. Trump has captured the sizeable portion of the GOP electorate that trolls internet forums and basically wants to watch the world burn. If they can't have nice things, then no one else should either.


So true. What a bunch of whiners.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 15:37     Subject: Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Like I've seen said before, your life is very sad if you think "political correctness" is the biggest problem facing this nation. And yes, pray tell, how do we fix this scourge?

And I apparently missed the day that someone coined the term "social justice warrior," but all of the conservatives didn't miss THEIR memo.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 15:28     Subject: Re:Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

the political correctness (in both the government and private spheres) is stifling this nation.


Please propose an actual policy that will help with this "issue."
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 15:21     Subject: Re:Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Except it's the Republicans that have ruined their American Dream by destroying unions. Their anger is misplaced. And I resent the implication that liberals are not patriots.


I made no such implication. No one doubts the patriotism of liberal icons like FDR and JFK, each of whom enjoyed strong backing from Reagan democrats. But to paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen (a WWII combat pilot and patriot), Obama is no John Kennedy.



No, you don't get to decide who is a patriot. And patriotism is not correlated with your or your party's core values. This is incredibly insulting.

Also, just FYI, because this is another very annoying thing, someone's opinions do not carry more weight because they have served in the military.


I resent your implication that Bentsen was not a patriot. And sorry, but FDR did many things, but he didn't serve in the military. And that makes him no less a patriot. But go ahead, feel the Bern. Free college becomes you.


Wut?
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 15:13     Subject: Re:Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Except it's the Republicans that have ruined their American Dream by destroying unions. Their anger is misplaced. And I resent the implication that liberals are not patriots.


I made no such implication. No one doubts the patriotism of liberal icons like FDR and JFK, each of whom enjoyed strong backing from Reagan democrats. But to paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen (a WWII combat pilot and patriot), Obama is no John Kennedy.



No, you don't get to decide who is a patriot. And patriotism is not correlated with your or your party's core values. This is incredibly insulting.

Also, just FYI, because this is another very annoying thing, someone's opinions do not carry more weight because they have served in the military.


I resent your implication that Bentsen was not a patriot. And sorry, but FDR did many things, but he didn't serve in the military. And that makes him no less a patriot. But go ahead, feel the Bern. Free college becomes you.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 15:13     Subject: Re:Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This weekend I read an article in the Economist that condescendingly referred to Trump's supporters as "wrinklies." This made me, a 30-something liberal female attorney, so mad! How dare the writers of the Economist disrespect the american voter! In a democracy, the government listens to the people and not the other way around. The liberal elite should not be allowed to impose their own version of the rule of law on America. Over the last twenty years the First Amendment has been almost completely obliterated by the idea of political correctness. People are afraid to say even the simplest things for fear of being misunderstood. Hell, saying "Merry Christmas" is no longer socially acceptable. Laws are enforced at will, or not at all, and the liberal elite feels entitled to disrespect the average Americans, off whose backs they make their living. And this is precisely why people support Trump - because he does not seek to "improve" or "educate" an average voter, but instead shows him respect and actually listens to their opinions - something that, you know, in a democracy, an elected representative is supposed to do.


1. Why are you so angry about something published in the Economist?

2. American voters deserve disrespect and ridicule if 35 present think Trump is qualified to be President.


3. The government doesn't necessary listen to the people in a representative democracy. Look no further than opinions on gun control.

4. The "liberal elite"? Are you for real? You aren't very familiar with the Economist. It's mostly British writers are all over the map on issues.

5. You must not have done very well in ConLaw if you think the First Amendment is in danger from "political correctness." Only you and wrinkly old idiots who watch Fox believe that red coffee cups are part of a systematic War on Xmas.

6. You blew what little credibility left by claiming that Trump listens to and respects the average American.

Your no liberal and undoubtedly a terrible attorney not working in the legal field.

... and the PP just proved my point...



I think maybe PP was just fed up with your refusal to see reality. Because yes, saying that Trump listens to and respects the average American is not supported by his attitude towards: 1. immigrants 2. the disabled 3. Muslims 4. women. I would argue that any one of these categories are chock full of "average Americans"
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 15:11     Subject: Re:Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This weekend I read an article in the Economist that condescendingly referred to Trump's supporters as "wrinklies." This made me, a 30-something liberal female attorney, so mad! How dare the writers of the Economist disrespect the american voter! In a democracy, the government listens to the people and not the other way around. The liberal elite should not be allowed to impose their own version of the rule of law on America. Over the last twenty years the First Amendment has been almost completely obliterated by the idea of political correctness. People are afraid to say even the simplest things for fear of being misunderstood. Hell, saying "Merry Christmas" is no longer socially acceptable. Laws are enforced at will, or not at all, and the liberal elite feels entitled to disrespect the average Americans, off whose backs they make their living. And this is precisely why people support Trump - because he does not seek to "improve" or "educate" an average voter, but instead shows him respect and actually listens to their opinions - something that, you know, in a democracy, an elected representative is supposed to do.


This is OP, and I can see this point as the most logical explanation. And I am also sick and tired of everyone trying to make everything support their idea of PC.


I working a large law firm. A lot of lawyers who I know support Trump, even those who voted for democrats for years.
This is happening across demographics. The first person I heard openly speak in favor of Trump was a female Latina immigrant. The second was a long-time democrat. Many people across socio-economic, political, racial and cultural lines are fed up with the paternalistic nature of our elected officials and the quasi anti-American rhetoric we have been force fed for too long. The fact that someone as divisive as Trump can get this far with such a wide variety of supporters needs to be a wake-up call to both parties.


Where are these people? I have literally never come across them. In real life or on the internet. These are anecdotes, PP, and whether true or not, they do not translate into an election win.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 15:06     Subject: Re:Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This weekend I read an article in the Economist that condescendingly referred to Trump's supporters as "wrinklies." This made me, a 30-something liberal female attorney, so mad! How dare the writers of the Economist disrespect the american voter! In a democracy, the government listens to the people and not the other way around. The liberal elite should not be allowed to impose their own version of the rule of law on America. Over the last twenty years the First Amendment has been almost completely obliterated by the idea of political correctness. People are afraid to say even the simplest things for fear of being misunderstood. Hell, saying "Merry Christmas" is no longer socially acceptable. Laws are enforced at will, or not at all, and the liberal elite feels entitled to disrespect the average Americans, off whose backs they make their living. And this is precisely why people support Trump - because he does not seek to "improve" or "educate" an average voter, but instead shows him respect and actually listens to their opinions - something that, you know, in a democracy, an elected representative is supposed to do.


This is OP, and I can see this point as the most logical explanation. And I am also sick and tired of everyone trying to make everything support their idea of PC.


I working a large law firm. A lot of lawyers who I know support Trump, even those who voted for democrats for years.
This is happening across demographics. The first person I heard openly speak in favor of Trump was a female Latina immigrant. The second was a long-time democrat. Many people across socio-economic, political, racial and cultural lines are fed up with the paternalistic nature of our elected officials and the quasi anti-American rhetoric we have been force fed for too long. The fact that someone as divisive as Trump can get this far with such a wide variety of supporters needs to be a wake-up call to both parties.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 15:02     Subject: Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Anonymous wrote:Even if they're far right wing republicans that agree with him, don't they see that there's not a chance in hell he'll win? even my own far right wing husband says he would never vote for him. What the hell? As a democrat, I think it's kind of humorous and of course sad. Being from the south, I don't see any of my crazy as hell Facebook friends supporting him, they condemn him. So who is actually wiling to vote for Trump?


I like Trump because he is continuing the racist tradition established by prior Presidents FDR and Woodrow Wilson.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 15:01     Subject: Re:Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Anonymous wrote:Trump supporters are those Trump personally and in private would consider "losers." As for his success at business, yes, he has been very successful at using/abusing our bankruptcy laws and shafting his creditors/investors.
The most successful entrepreneurs I know are the biggest risk takers--in fact taking risks is what made this nation. These same people have been on top, fallen and come back out on top. Regarding bankruptcy laws, or any law, you can't take "advantage" of something you are entitled to and regarding creditors, they assume the risk. The same with investors. You weigh the odds of making a profit vs a loss. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. The biggest payoffs generally come with the biggest risks. You don't invest if you can't afford to lose. I say this as someone who has no respect for Trump.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 14:59     Subject: Re:Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This weekend I read an article in the Economist that condescendingly referred to Trump's supporters as "wrinklies." This made me, a 30-something liberal female attorney, so mad! How dare the writers of the Economist disrespect the american voter! In a democracy, the government listens to the people and not the other way around. The liberal elite should not be allowed to impose their own version of the rule of law on America. Over the last twenty years the First Amendment has been almost completely obliterated by the idea of political correctness. People are afraid to say even the simplest things for fear of being misunderstood. Hell, saying "Merry Christmas" is no longer socially acceptable. Laws are enforced at will, or not at all, and the liberal elite feels entitled to disrespect the average Americans, off whose backs they make their living. And this is precisely why people support Trump - because he does not seek to "improve" or "educate" an average voter, but instead shows him respect and actually listens to their opinions - something that, you know, in a democracy, an elected representative is supposed to do.


This is OP, and I can see this point as the most logical explanation. And I am also sick and tired of everyone trying to make everything support their idea of PC.


I working a large law firm. A lot of lawyers who I know support Trump, even those who voted for democrats for years.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 14:57     Subject: Re:Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This weekend I read an article in the Economist that condescendingly referred to Trump's supporters as "wrinklies." This made me, a 30-something liberal female attorney, so mad! How dare the writers of the Economist disrespect the american voter! In a democracy, the government listens to the people and not the other way around. The liberal elite should not be allowed to impose their own version of the rule of law on America. Over the last twenty years the First Amendment has been almost completely obliterated by the idea of political correctness. People are afraid to say even the simplest things for fear of being misunderstood. Hell, saying "Merry Christmas" is no longer socially acceptable. Laws are enforced at will, or not at all, and the liberal elite feels entitled to disrespect the average Americans, off whose backs they make their living. And this is precisely why people support Trump - because he does not seek to "improve" or "educate" an average voter, but instead shows him respect and actually listens to their opinions - something that, you know, in a democracy, an elected representative is supposed to do.


1. Why are you so angry about something published in the Economist?

2. American voters deserve disrespect and ridicule if 35 present think Trump is qualified to be President.

3. The government doesn't necessary listen to the people in a representative democracy. Look no further than opinions on gun control.

4. The "liberal elite"? Are you for real? You aren't very familiar with the Economist. It's mostly British writers are all over the map on issues.

5. You must not have done very well in ConLaw if you think the First Amendment is in danger from "political correctness." Only you and wrinkly old idiots who watch Fox believe that red coffee cups are part of a systematic War on Xmas.

6. You blew what little credibility left by claiming that Trump listens to and respects the average American.

Your no liberal and undoubtedly a terrible attorney not working in the legal field.


Spare us the condescension. I agree with her. She didn't say that her first amendment rights were being infringed, she said that the political correctness (in both the government and private spheres) is stifling this nation. If you say one thing that the social justice warriors don't like, they'll be lining up to try to get you fired, etc. That isn't something indicative of a free and open society. It's reminiscent of the red guard in China.
+1 It is how the "social justice warriors" have attempted to institute change (not always better but better in their minds) and people are getting fed up. Everything has a tipping point and Trump is indicative that we are reaching that point.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 14:57     Subject: Re:Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Trump supporters are those Trump personally and in private would consider "losers." As for his success at business, yes, he has been very successful at using/abusing our bankruptcy laws and shafting his creditors/investors.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2015 14:53     Subject: Re:Who are these people that actually LIKE Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This weekend I read an article in the Economist that condescendingly referred to Trump's supporters as "wrinklies." This made me, a 30-something liberal female attorney, so mad! How dare the writers of the Economist disrespect the american voter! In a democracy, the government listens to the people and not the other way around. The liberal elite should not be allowed to impose their own version of the rule of law on America. Over the last twenty years the First Amendment has been almost completely obliterated by the idea of political correctness. People are afraid to say even the simplest things for fear of being misunderstood. Hell, saying "Merry Christmas" is no longer socially acceptable. Laws are enforced at will, or not at all, and the liberal elite feels entitled to disrespect the average Americans, off whose backs they make their living. And this is precisely why people support Trump - because he does not seek to "improve" or "educate" an average voter, but instead shows him respect and actually listens to their opinions - something that, you know, in a democracy, an elected representative is supposed to do.


1. Why are you so angry about something published in the Economist?

2. American voters deserve disrespect and ridicule if 35 present think Trump is qualified to be President.

3. The government doesn't necessary listen to the people in a representative democracy. Look no further than opinions on gun control.

4. The "liberal elite"? Are you for real? You aren't very familiar with the Economist. It's mostly British writers are all over the map on issues.

5. You must not have done very well in ConLaw if you think the First Amendment is in danger from "political correctness." Only you and wrinkly old idiots who watch Fox believe that red coffee cups are part of a systematic War on Xmas.

6. You blew what little credibility left by claiming that Trump listens to and respects the average American.

Your no liberal and undoubtedly a terrible attorney not working in the legal field.


Spare us the condescension. I agree with her. She didn't say that her first amendment rights were being infringed, she said that the political correctness (in both the government and private spheres) is stifling this nation. If you say one thing that the social justice warriors don't like, they'll be lining up to try to get you fired, etc. That isn't something indicative of a free and open society. It's reminiscent of the red guard in China.