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Anonymous wrote:Do I think he needs a criminal juvenile record so for his lifetime he has to answer yes, he has been charged with a crime, whenever he fills out a job application, even 30 years from now? No. And yes, I have a daughter.

"criminal juvenile record for his lifetime" is a contradiction. Juvenile records are sealed the day that the boy turns 18 and they cannot be added to. Nor do any job application questions say "ever charged with a crime". It will say "as an adult".

Pretty sure many states, taking an overdue hint from The Administration, are restricting employees from asking about arrest/conviction records. See, e.g. CA. About time.

^^ meant employers

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Anonymous wrote:Do I think he needs a criminal juvenile record so for his lifetime he has to answer yes, he has been charged with a crime, whenever he fills out a job application, even 30 years from now? No. And yes, I have a daughter.

"criminal juvenile record for his lifetime" is a contradiction. Juvenile records are sealed the day that the boy turns 18 and they cannot be added to. Nor do any job application questions say "ever charged with a crime". It will say "as an adult".

Pretty sure many states, taking an overdue hint from The Administration, are restricting employees from asking about arrest/conviction records. See, e.g. CA. About time.

These are KIDS and adults should stop trying to make everything a crime. No police, deal with the school.

We just can't shove enough men in jail in this country, can we?

NP here.

I only have daughters. However, if my DD took the same action as this boy is alleged to have taken and the person she did it to reported it, causing charges to be brought against DD, while I would be devastated that my kid would do such a thing and worried about her morals and also the charges having an impact on her future, I would support the correct charges being brought against someone who committed this act. (would it be assault, or battery? I thought battery was the physical contact one and assault was the threatening). Yes, against my own child.

A thing is immoral and wrong and not ok and still a crime even if your/my/someone's kid is the one who committed it.

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Girls do this kind of shit all the time, but never get called out for it.

Some women want such a double standard. No man should ever touch you.

Really? where do girls do this all the time. I teach in a middle school. Gave for over a dozen years. Taught specials courses in summer camps for twenty years. I've never seen a girl grab a boy and French kiss him against his will.

My DH had the most popular girl in school show him her boobies on a dare from her classmates after school when they were 13.

I guess by today's standards she's a sexual offender too.

Note the difference between Person A, who showed Person A's own breasts, and Person B, who grabbed Person C and stuck Person B's tongue in Person's C's mouth. The first is not assault. The second is.

She violated indecent exposure laws and should be an offender too. See how ridiculous his is? Putting our children behind bars for what should have be dealt with by parents and schools about boundaries.

this. If it was a boy flashing his penis instead of a girl flashing her boobs people would go ballistic.

Anonymous wrote:I don't care whether you have boys or girls.

I don't care whether the boy grabbed her shirt, her belt or stuck his hand down his pants.

He invaded her space.

He held her in such a way that she couldn't escape.

He forced his tongue into her mouth.

He should be charged. Period.

Got it. Your empathy oozes out of you. At some point your daughter will make a stupid choice - and we'll see how life treats her then and whether it is deserved.

I don't care whether you have boys or girls.

I don't care whether the boy grabbed her shirt, her belt or stuck his hand down his pants.

He invaded her space.

He held her in such a way that she couldn't escape.

He forced his tongue into her mouth.

He should be charged. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you call it. A 13 year old doesn't need to be turned over to the police for an unwelcome kiss. A grown man wouldn't be. This sort of unwelcome kiss gets man a face-slap, not an arrest.

If this happens to me at my work place, I am calling the cops.

You are an adult. Jeez. You obviously do to know any 13 yr old, boys or girl.
Mom to 2 girls and 1 boy - all teens. Would want an apology and discuss PRIVATELY with patrents

I have a now adult daughter and would support her at any age in pressing criminal charges against someone who assaulted her.

Nice message you are sending your children about women's bodies.

Do you have any boys?

You have different messages for boys about women's bodies?

No, the point is that I think those that have zero sympathy for a kid's stupid decision at the age of 13 are likely the parents of girls only.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you call it. A 13 year old doesn't need to be turned over to the police for an unwelcome kiss. A grown man wouldn't be. This sort of unwelcome kiss gets man a face-slap, not an arrest.

If this happens to me at my work place, I am calling the cops.

You are an adult. Jeez. You obviously do to know any 13 yr old, boys or girl.
Mom to 2 girls and 1 boy - all teens. Would want an apology and discuss PRIVATELY with patrents

I have a now adult daughter and would support her at any age in pressing criminal charges against someone who assaulted her.

Nice message you are sending your children about women's bodies.

Do you have any boys?

You have different messages for boys about women's bodies?

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Anonymous wrote:Do I think he needs a criminal juvenile record so for his lifetime he has to answer yes, he has been charged with a crime, whenever he fills out a job application, even 30 years from now? No. And yes, I have a daughter.

"criminal juvenile record for his lifetime" is a contradiction. Juvenile records are sealed the day that the boy turns 18 and they cannot be added to. Nor do any job application questions say "ever charged with a crime". It will say "as an adult".

Absolutely wrong. Read some of the earlier posts in this thread. MANY applications ask if you've ever been charged with a crime: law school, medical school, bus driver, truck driver, etc. You'll also note that "sealed" doesn't mean sealed and there are several posts earlier in this thread about how open the records are and how they haunt some kids.

Anonymous wrote:Do I think he needs a criminal juvenile record so for his lifetime he has to answer yes, he has been charged with a crime, whenever he fills out a job application, even 30 years from now? No. And yes, I have a daughter.

"criminal juvenile record for his lifetime" is a contradiction. Juvenile records are sealed the day that the boy turns 18 and they cannot be added to. Nor do any job application questions say "ever charged with a crime". It will say "as an adult".

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you call it. A 13 year old doesn't need to be turned over to the police for an unwelcome kiss. A grown man wouldn't be. This sort of unwelcome kiss gets man a face-slap, not an arrest.

If this happens to me at my work place, I am calling the cops.

You are an adult. Jeez. You obviously do to know any 13 yr old, boys or girl.
Mom to 2 girls and 1 boy - all teens. Would want an apology and discuss PRIVATELY with patrents

I have a now adult daughter and would support her at any age in pressing criminal charges against someone who assaulted her.

Nice message you are sending your children about women's bodies.

Do you have any boys?

You are now repeating what you said two sentences previously... And I will repeat what I said.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you call it. A 13 year old doesn't need to be turned over to the police for an unwelcome kiss. A grown man wouldn't be. This sort of unwelcome kiss gets man a face-slap, not an arrest.

"an unwelcome kiss"?

Just how do you intend to frame this? A rape averted? A monstrous victimization?

Assault.

If somebody grabbed your shirt and stuck their tongue in your mouth, what would you call it?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you call it. A 13 year old doesn't need to be turned over to the police for an unwelcome kiss. A grown man wouldn't be. This sort of unwelcome kiss gets man a face-slap, not an arrest.

"an unwelcome kiss"?

Just how do you intend to frame this? A rape averted? A monstrous victimization?