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Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Perhaps, but the uniforms also perpetuate the image (myth) that Hardy remains a chaotic, undisciplined inner city type school.

I agree. I have no philosophical problems with uniforms, but I do have a problem with only implementing them in certain schools. I don't get why it can't be a DCPS-wide policy, either way. It sends a message that there are two different DCPS sysems/schools, beyond the charter and the neighborhood schools.

Or that, because the vast majority don't have uniforms, there must be something different (maybe even problematic) in a school that feels the need to require them.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Perhaps, but the uniforms also perpetuate the image (myth) that Hardy remains a chaotic, undisciplined inner city type school.

I agree. I have no philosophical problems with uniforms, but I do have a problem with only implementing them in certain schools. I don't get why it can't be a DCPS-wide policy, either way. It sends a message that there are two different DCPS sysems/schools, beyond the charter and the neighborhood schools.

There are more than two systems. There are the highly desired schools in upper NW, the struggling schools EOTR, the slowly reviving schools EOTP, the test in schools - and then there is Hardy.

Adopting uniforms everywhere would not change that. But would piss a lot of people off.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Perhaps, but the uniforms also perpetuate the image (myth) that Hardy remains a chaotic, undisciplined inner city type school.

I agree. I have no philosophical problems with uniforms, but I do have a problem with only implementing them in certain schools. I don't get why it can't be a DCPS-wide policy, either way. It sends a message that there are two different DCPS sysems/schools, beyond the charter and the neighborhood schools.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Perhaps, but the uniforms also perpetuate the image (myth) that Hardy remains a chaotic, undisciplined inner city type school.

I agree. I have no philosophical problems with uniforms, but I do have a problem with only implementing them in certain schools. I don't get why it can't be a DCPS-wide policy, either way. It sends a message that there are two different DCPS sysems/schools, beyond the charter and the neighborhood schools.

To me it sends the message that each school has the autonomy to choose for themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Perhaps, but the uniforms also perpetuate the image (myth) that Hardy remains a chaotic, undisciplined inner city type school.

I agree. I have no philosophical problems with uniforms, but I do have a problem with only implementing them in certain schools. I don't get why it can't be a DCPS-wide policy, either way. It sends a message that there are two different DCPS sysems/schools, beyond the charter and the neighborhood schools.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Perhaps, but the uniforms also perpetuate the image (myth) that Hardy remains a chaotic, undisciplined inner city type school.

I agree. I have no philosophical problems with uniforms, but I do have a problem with only implementing them in certain schools. I don't get why it can't be a DCPS-wide policy, either way. It sends a message that there are two different DCPS sysems/schools, beyond the charter and the neighborhood schools.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Perhaps, but the uniforms also perpetuate the image (myth) that Hardy remains a chaotic, undisciplined inner city type school.

Anonymous wrote:You know what, if uniforms are what's keeping out the IB kids who opt for private school, then maybe all the naysayers should cool it with the uniform anxiety. I don't want my kid snorting coke more likely speed in 8th grade -- let 'em do it on their parents' dime. Think of the uniforms as a prophylactic against the malaise of the super-privileged.

Anonymous wrote:Because if it's not sarcasm, it's bizarre that anyone would be holding on to this after such a long time.

BTW, the uniforms were voted on the year my kid was in 8th grade OOB. She is now a senior in college. A pp says they haven't been voted on since. To assume that there is a core group of families continuing to cling resolutely to uniforms as a way of sticking it to IB families over so many years, well, that's assuming that there are lots and lots of families worrying about IB families when in reality they have so many other things taking up their mental space, such as whether their kid is learning in school.

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Anonymous wrote:You anti-Hardy people (person?) with your obsessions with soccer field size, some teacher from 10 years ago, uniforms, and cell phone transmitters are completely nuts. You make the private school forum look like an exemplar of reasonable discussion.

The angry, anti-IB, anti-reform teacher from 10 years ago is still barricaded in the school.

I'm assuming this is sarcasm.

She is a teacher there today.

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Anonymous wrote:You anti-Hardy people (person?) with your obsessions with soccer field size, some teacher from 10 years ago, uniforms, and cell phone transmitters are completely nuts. You make the private school forum look like an exemplar of reasonable discussion.

The angry, anti-IB, anti-reform teacher from 10 years ago is still barricaded in the school.

I'm assuming this is sarcasm.

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Anonymous wrote:So, the only ones who care about the uniforms remaining at Hardy are "concerned onlookers" on this board who for some reason care about preserving the "unique culture" of Hardy. Are they Alums? Why do they care?

IB Hardy family with 4 kids. I have visited Hardy and talked to existing students, administration, teachers, and existing parents (I wonder how many parents commenting on this board have actually taken those steps. Most of what I see on this board is not a reflection of what I have actually seen on my own). I have been very impressed and look forward to sending my children to Hardy. I could care less about uniforms. I care about the quality of education and experience for my children.

Right, and your view is considered and logical. But you already plan to send your kids to Hardy. Hardy's challenge is to address those issues that keep the overwhelming majority of its IB families from considering enrolling their kids there in the first place. Why not easily take one of those issues off the table?

Actually, I believe your point is incorrect. Hardy had about a 50% adoption rate from the feeder schools this year. That adoption rate as well as the size of the feeder school 5th grade is growing at a substantial pace. The statement "keeping the overwhelming majority of IB families from considering enrolling" is absolutely factually untrue. I think the Hardy student and parent population should vote on uniforms, as they have in the past. If they want to keep them then keep them. If they want to get rid of them then get rid of them. That should be an internal decision as it has been in the past. So far the vote has been to keep uniforms.

Right and this years Key class had a 30% adoption rate what is your point. The adoption rate has been growing each year and now the class size is growing as well.
In 2010-11 Key had three kindergarten classes with a total of 54 kids. If you believe what was posted up-thread, in the fall of 2015 five Key graduates enrolled at Hardy. That's less than a 10% adoption rate.