Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:57     Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)

NOt sure if this has been verified, but it seems to be true-the media is always making fires or explosions where there need not be one-I would be pissed if I were a resident of this community and these jerks just came by and started a dangerous situation-black or white!


Michael Cory Quattrin
Facebook friends and family – PLEASE HELP! That (now viral) video of the officer in McKinney subduing a girl in a bathing suit was in OUR neighborhood. The situation was NOT what is being reported…

A DJ setup in a public space next to the private pool in our neighborhood on Friday and played loud explicit (F-bomb) music for multiple hours (it is unclear if he was invited by a resident as no one has claimed responsibility). The teenagers (both black and white) were being brought into our neighborhood by the carload because the DJ was tweeting out invites to a “pool party” for $15 (obviously unauthorized by our neighborhood). The teens began fighting with each other and pushing their way into our private pool. Some were jumping our fence. The security guard was accosted when he tried to stop the beginnings of this mob scene. Some residents who live around the park/pool area tried to come out and settle things down. The teens started yelling racial slurs at our neighbors and started assaulting people and property (throwing bottles at cars and attacking a mother at the pool with 3 young children). The first officer on the scene was by himself. At that time, the party had grown to a large, aggressive crowd. As the officer arrived, many teens started running through our neighborhood. Many of the teens were being very aggressive and yelling at the officers as more arrived.

This was a very dangerous situation for the officers AND the teens/residents not involved. The news media has refused to hear the neighborhood’s side of this story. The video being distributed is only a very small segment of what happened. This information being distributed by the media and others is extremely distorted and in some cases outright lies.

PLEASE HELP US STOP THE BROADCASTING OF THIS IGNORANCE. The media is trying to make it look like our neighborhood is a white’s only, racist area. Anyone who has spent even a few minutes in our area knows this is an outright LIE.

The unfortunate result is that our neighbors are now being threatened. We have also had cars and property in and around the park area vandalized this weekend. Unfortunately, the press and social media are trying to enflame the situation.

I am asking for your help for my family and my neighbor’s safety…PLEASE, PLEASE do not rebroadcast any of these lies."
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:47     Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Expect more of your public servants. The idea that a teenager being kicked out of a party has a larger responsibility to behave appropriately and with respect than does a sworn officer of the law is offensive. You PPs' attempts to absolve the officer of guilt in this situation are offensive

THIS, a thousand times, every time there's a cop/idiot interaction where people blame the citizen. I expect more from trained officers.


This may be news to you, but the police are public servants of the CITIZENS, not of the CRIMINALS (petty or otherwise).

The police stopped being public servants of the teenager when she:
- trespassed property
- was part of a mob attacking a resident
- didn't comply with police requests


LOL Really? What about the White woman who started the physical altercation. What bucket does she fall in?

See..here is the issue. NONE of the three factors that you listed appear to be true. We do not know if the girl had a legit pool guest pass and the incident did NOT take place inside the pool facility. Second, nowhere has it been alleged that this young lady was involved in the fight that the resident started. Finally, she DID comply with police request. She was walking away as he instructed. She mouthed off and he jumped her. Add to that the other police officers on the scene had to intervene tells you this guy was out of control.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:45     Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

This may be news to you, but the police are public servants of the CITIZENS, not of the CRIMINALS (petty or otherwise).

The police stopped being public servants of the teenager when she:
- trespassed property
- was part of a mob attacking a resident
- didn't comply with police requests


It's also news to lawyers and the courts. The police are servants of the public, which includes everybody.


Also, PP, how do you reconcile that this girl was complying with police request to leave the area when the officer, not liking what she was saying to/about him, chased her down and wrestled her to the ground by her hair?

And the "mob" you're talking about was a small group of teenagers being physically assaulted by an adult woman who was then restrained by her friends.

Clearly your powers of observation are as accurate as your understanding of the law.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:42     Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Right, because white kids have never been known to sneak into a pool. Never!!

Seriously, with the hijinks my (white, middle class) brothers got up to as teens, I shudder to think what would have happened if they were black.


You guys stormed a pool in broad daylight, cops getting called and attempted to flee? Sorry that is completely different than skinny dipping at night with a few friends at the community pool. In fact when I grew up the cops did get called on a group of high schoolers who snuck into a pool, they were arrested without incident and had to do community service. They didn't resist or mouth off when caught because they understood the repercussions.


What are you trying to say, white teen boys never do anything like this? My brothers may not have done this particular prank, but trust me they did a lot of stuff, ranging from stupidly dangerous to very illegal.


I guess the PP does not realize that White teen boys and girls were also involved in this. None of them were tackled by the police.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:39     Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:

This may be news to you, but the police are public servants of the CITIZENS, not of the CRIMINALS (petty or otherwise).

The police stopped being public servants of the teenager when she:
- trespassed property
- was part of a mob attacking a resident
- didn't comply with police requests


It's also news to lawyers and the courts. The police are servants of the public, which includes everybody.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:27     Subject: Re:Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone FROM the neighborhood speaks but you probably won't like what you read.

https://www.facebook.com/benet.embry/posts/10152901015923202


Oh please. Scroll through the rest of his page. He's an attention whore for his radio show.


which means what?
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:21     Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Expect more of your public servants. The idea that a teenager being kicked out of a party has a larger responsibility to behave appropriately and with respect than does a sworn officer of the law is offensive. You PPs' attempts to absolve the officer of guilt in this situation are offensive

THIS, a thousand times, every time there's a cop/idiot interaction where people blame the citizen. I expect more from trained officers.


This may be news to you, but the police are public servants of the CITIZENS, not of the CRIMINALS (petty or otherwise).

The police stopped being public servants of the teenager when she:
- trespassed property
- was part of a mob attacking a resident
- didn't comply with police requests


Yes, because accused criminals (and actual criminals) have no rights at all! Thank you for the civics lesson you ignorant dickbrain.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:19     Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Right, because white kids have never been known to sneak into a pool. Never!!

Seriously, with the hijinks my (white, middle class) brothers got up to as teens, I shudder to think what would have happened if they were black.


You guys stormed a pool in broad daylight, cops getting called and attempted to flee? Sorry that is completely different than skinny dipping at night with a few friends at the community pool. In fact when I grew up the cops did get called on a group of high schoolers who snuck into a pool, they were arrested without incident and had to do community service. They didn't resist or mouth off when caught because they understood the repercussions.


What are you trying to say, white teen boys never do anything like this? My brothers may not have done this particular prank, but trust me they did a lot of stuff, ranging from stupidly dangerous to very illegal.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:19     Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what has to happen, PPs, for you to agree that there is a problem of police brutality perpetrated against people of color in this country?

It sounds like what you guys are in search of is the "perfect victim." I don't know how you expect that to happen, because the police are not going to show up unless someone in the immediate area is perceived to be breaking the law.

Expect more of your public servants. The idea that a teenager being kicked out of a party has a larger responsibility to behave appropriately and with respect than does a sworn officer of the law is offensive. You PPs' attempts to absolve the officer of guilt in this situation are offensive.


I'm not absolving this officer of guilt. Clearly he needs a different career.
I'm also not absolving the teens of guilt for trespassing or alleviating their parents of their responsibility to raise respectful citizens.

I see 50+ kids crashing a party they weren't invited to.
I see no parents making an effort to know what their children were doing. I know what my kids post on the internet because i make it a point to. If nothing else, for their own safety. And when they say "I'm going here" I pick up the phone and verify that they are in fact going where they say they are.

How in the name of all that is holy do you know exactly how many kids were uninvited? How do you know this?


Because PP saw about 50 Black children in the video and is sure that none of them could be invited to a private pool party. Black kids aren't invited to pool parties. They only crash them.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:18     Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:
Expect more of your public servants. The idea that a teenager being kicked out of a party has a larger responsibility to behave appropriately and with respect than does a sworn officer of the law is offensive. You PPs' attempts to absolve the officer of guilt in this situation are offensive

THIS, a thousand times, every time there's a cop/idiot interaction where people blame the citizen. I expect more from trained officers.


This may be news to you, but the police are public servants of the CITIZENS, not of the CRIMINALS (petty or otherwise).

The police stopped being public servants of the teenager when she:
- trespassed property
- was part of a mob attacking a resident
- didn't comply with police requests
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:18     Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
South Carolina police officer Michael Slager was charged with murder for shooting and killing Walter Scott.

No relevance to this discussion just wanted to throw it out there.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:18     Subject: Re:Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if it has gotten to the point where black cops should always take the lead in responding to crimes involving blacks. Like female officers are the only ones allowed to search female suspects & often required to transport one. At least then race could be taken out of the equation since that is always the first thing anyone looks at.


Maybe black citizens that have had special training can volunteer to ride along with white cops, since there probably aren't enough black cops to response to all the calls.


??

The cops (white) were there to protect the neighbors (white) from the thugs-in-the-making (black).

Are you saying that cops should be asking for the demographic characteristics of the OFFENDERS before deciding whom to send? What if among the offenders there's a black woman, a transgender, a Jesuit priest and a Frenchman?


If you call 911 regarding an incident with another person one of the first questions they ask is, "Is the person white, hispanic, or African-American?"


That has not been my experience when calling 911, even when I witnessed an assault in a parking.lot. they have asked me to describe the suspect, after being asked to describe the emergency. I was not immediately asked the skin color of the guy performing the assault.[/quote]

I have called 911 5 times regarding altercations and every time have been asked that question. There must be a script because it is always in the same order, white, Hispanic, AA. Even if I volunteer the information when first asked "What is the nature of your emergency? " they still ask it later.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:12     Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what has to happen, PPs, for you to agree that there is a problem of police brutality perpetrated against people of color in this country?

It sounds like what you guys are in search of is the "perfect victim." I don't know how you expect that to happen, because the police are not going to show up unless someone in the immediate area is perceived to be breaking the law.

Expect more of your public servants. The idea that a teenager being kicked out of a party has a larger responsibility to behave appropriately and with respect than does a sworn officer of the law is offensive. You PPs' attempts to absolve the officer of guilt in this situation are offensive.


I'm not absolving this officer of guilt. Clearly he needs a different career.
I'm also not absolving the teens of guilt for trespassing or alleviating their parents of their responsibility to raise respectful citizens.

I see 50+ kids crashing a party they weren't invited to.
I see no parents making an effort to know what their children were doing. I know what my kids post on the internet because i make it a point to. If nothing else, for their own safety. And when they say "I'm going here" I pick up the phone and verify that they are in fact going where they say they are.

How in the name of all that is holy do you know exactly how many kids were uninvited? How do you know this?
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:11     Subject: Re:Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It appears to me that there issues on both sides.

Some of the black teens were uninvited guests at a private pool. The white lady and police officer behaved very badly. Both sides were wrong.

However, I didn't really see the other cops doing much of anything to diffuse the situation and I did see teens swarming all around the area. I heard them being asked by the officer to 'sit on the ground until they get to the bottom of this.' That is a reasonable request no matter what color you are. Why did they not do this? Is the officer expected to leave unruly teens swarm around and out of sight? His first priority is to defend and protect himself. Those 2 boys came at him when his back was turned. I can't hear what they may have said to provoke the reaction of him unholstering his weapon.

There are too many missing facts here to pass judgement. However calling this an act of racism is jumping the gun a tad too quickly. Not every incident involving white cops and black people is racism.


The problem is that this incident didn't happen in a vacuum. Consistently we see that incidents involving white perpetrators (college kids rioting over pumpkins in New Hampshire, Hell's Angels getting into a shootout with police a few weeks ago) are diffused without police violence, but incidents involving black perpetrators end with dead kids much more often.

So, no, we can't look into that particular officer's heart and know whether he is a racist. But he's part of an institution that consistently acts in a racist manner. You don't have to take my word for it. http://www.propublica.org/article/deadly-force-in-black-and-white?utm_source=et&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dailynewsletter

"Young black males in recent years were at a far greater risk of being shot dead by police than their white counterparts – 21 times greater i, according to a ProPublica analysis of federally collected data on fatal police shootings."


Actually, with the Texas biker shoot out, weren't the police shooting too? That was my understanding of the situation.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2015 13:11     Subject: Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what has to happen, PPs, for you to agree that there is a problem of police brutality perpetrated against people of color in this country?

It sounds like what you guys are in search of is the "perfect victim." I don't know how you expect that to happen, because the police are not going to show up unless someone in the immediate area is perceived to be breaking the law.

Expect more of your public servants. The idea that a teenager being kicked out of a party has a larger responsibility to behave appropriately and with respect than does a sworn officer of the law is offensive. You PPs' attempts to absolve the officer of guilt in this situation are offensive.


I'm not absolving this officer of guilt. Clearly he needs a different career.
I'm also not absolving the teens of guilt for trespassing or alleviating their parents of their responsibility to raise respectful citizens.

I see 50+ kids crashing a party they weren't invited to.
I see no parents making an effort to know what their children were doing. I know what my kids post on the internet because i make it a point to. If nothing else, for their own safety. And when they say "I'm going here" I pick up the phone and verify that they are in fact going where they say they are.


If your child tells you, "I'm going to an end-of-year party at a swimming pool" do you call the pool and ask if the party is happening there? Many of the children standing around outside were waiting for their rides to arrive after being ejected from the party. Have you seen the video of the white woman starting a fight? She slaps that girl in the head multiple times before her friend pulls her off.

You are making a LOT of jumps with your assumption that everyone in the situation was trespassing and that their parents did not "make an effort to know what their children were doing." Your assumption that the teenagers in this video are dangerous are not based on facts. I've watched about 5 videos of this incident from various angles. The only people I see being aggressive are white adults. Who are being restrained by other white adults.