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Anonymous wrote:Turned down ITS to stay at private. Very unimpressed with upper grades (3+) on the tour. Like the "free" option but didn't feel we could make the leap.

I'm single-digit on the WL for PK3 at ITS, and while I'm hoping we get in I have similar feelings about the upper grades. Maybe they'll improve in the next few years, but I wouldn't be trying too hard to send a third grader there now.

When you say improve what do you mean? Test scores?

Not test grades necessarily. This is just my opinion (and please bear in mind that I am a freak about structure), but the upper grades didn't feel as organized or academic as I would have liked. I love the unstructured, free-play model in ECE, but I'm not sold on its validity as a child gets older. I am also a product of Catholic schools, so judge accordingly

NP here (and 3rd grade parent). It's funny because our family (my DH and I) was somewhat divided on this as well (traditional structure vs. inquiry based). Also funny because many parents at ITS claim that the older grades are too structured and they tend to lose the unstructured, inquiry base that they wanted to last through 8th grade (not practical in my opinion). I have to tell you, they do a great job with the balance of both. The students feel empowered and in charge of their educational experience while learning the basics as well. The subject matter that they cover is something I would never imagine a 3rd grader to even think about yet alone research and report on. There is a lot of group work so your interaction was very likely during a group task.

Because ITS is so small in upper grades (3-6) with average 22-24 per grade, we experience a lot of change from year to year. Some students leave to situate for other middle schools and some move away. We have a handful of new students that come each year. My DH was concerned that the philosophy of the school wouldn't translate academically for testing purposes. We are thrilled that after only 3 years, the students are testing so well. Subgroup analysis (white students), ITS is doing better than established schools like LAMB, Stokes, Haynes YY and about even with Two Rivers. The concern regarding testing to me is that the AA students are not doing as well. I remind myself that a large majority of new students to ITS each year (almost all) are coming from very poor performing charters or DCPS. I am hopeful that these students will continue to grow each year as they continue their education with ITS. I am also hopeful that the AA students that started with ITS in earlier grades will prove to perform better (like our family).

I hope you get accepted to ITS so you can really see what we see each day and how fantastic our upper grades are. Yes, the ECE is great but there are some rock starts upstairs too

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Anonymous wrote:Turned down ITS to stay at private. Very unimpressed with upper grades (3+) on the tour. Like the "free" option but didn't feel we could make the leap.

I'm single-digit on the WL for PK3 at ITS, and while I'm hoping we get in I have similar feelings about the upper grades. Maybe they'll improve in the next few years, but I wouldn't be trying too hard to send a third grader there now.

When you say improve what do you mean? Test scores?

Not test grades necessarily. This is just my opinion (and please bear in mind that I am a freak about structure), but the upper grades didn't feel as organized or academic as I would have liked. I love the unstructured, free-play model in ECE, but I'm not sold on its validity as a child gets older. I am also a product of Catholic schools, so judge accordingly

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Anonymous wrote:Sad how so many parents are willing to blindly believe their kids can do the impossible despite the obvious.

No, it is NOT impossible. Our kid is proof, monolingual and got in in 1st grade - excelling now in 3rd.

It may not be for every child, but a PP was right to point out how sad it is that some parents are as short-sighted and have blanket low expectations of kids overall the way you do. What's "obvious" is that many mkno-ingual kids can do great starting at first, you just have to be vigilant as a parent in supporting and, if necessary, pulling the plug if it's still not working out with support. But that's the exception, not the rule (except maybe with Mandarin)

Yes I've met parents like you. I've spoken to their "totally bilingual" kids.

Even though you're presumably totally monolingual yourself, it's great that you're able to assess your child's spanish.

Look, I'm in my top choice immersion charter and my kids speak three languages. I don't give a crap what you think or do. But I think it would generally be unfair to the class to struggle along for a few months (assuming your snowflake is just some sort of language superstar which ?) until your kid catches up.

New poster here and I think you are so rude.

One, you are not in school- your kids are are.

Two, I speak multiple languages as well and try to encourage monolingual families to learn languages.

Three, if your kids are being brought down by someone in the class being behind, maybe they aren't as smart as you think they are?

I think you're a sad person. Pathetic even.

I guess your pathetic boosterism prevents you from seeing that if a teacher is distracted because one kid doesn't understand what is happening that would be a burden on everyone. It is unfair.

Leave those MV upper elementary spots for kids who speak Spanish.

Oh and you smell like the kind of person who complains about kids who "aren't ready to learn". Guess what- kids who can't understand what's happening aren't ready to learn either. But I guess it's ok if they are white kids.

I'm not at Mundo Verde, but nice try.

I hope you're not at an elementary school, but given your poor reading comprehension, I wouldn't be surprised.

THE WHOLE POINT OF MY QUESTION IS WHETHER KIDS AT MUNDO SUFFER BECAUSE THEY ARE FORCED TO ACCEPT KIDS THAT DONT SPEAK SPANISH IN THE UPPER ELEMENTARY GRADES.

Go away and pick a fight elsewhere.

Actually Ms My kids speak 3 languages, the conversation was about immersion schools. Are you really yelling at people on the Internet? What a strange person you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Turned down ITS to stay at private. Very unimpressed with upper grades (3+) on the tour. Like the "free" option but didn't feel we could make the leap.

I'm single-digit on the WL for PK3 at ITS, and while I'm hoping we get in I have similar feelings about the upper grades. Maybe they'll improve in the next few years, but I wouldn't be trying too hard to send a third grader there now.

When you say improve what do you mean? Test scores?

Anonymous wrote:Turned down ITS to stay at private. Very unimpressed with upper grades (3+) on the tour. Like the "free" option but didn't feel we could make the leap.

I'm single-digit on the WL for PK3 at ITS, and while I'm hoping we get in I have similar feelings about the upper grades. Maybe they'll improve in the next few years, but I wouldn't be trying too hard to send a third grader there now.

Anonymous wrote:Learn to read sock puppet.

This is my first post of the day - Jeff feel free to confirm. But thanks for further proving my point!

Learn to read sock puppet.

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Anonymous wrote:Sad how so many parents are willing to blindly believe their kids can do the impossible despite the obvious.

No, it is NOT impossible. Our kid is proof, monolingual and got in in 1st grade - excelling now in 3rd.

It may not be for every child, but a PP was right to point out how sad it is that some parents are as short-sighted and have blanket low expectations of kids overall the way you do. What's "obvious" is that many mkno-ingual kids can do great starting at first, you just have to be vigilant as a parent in supporting and, if necessary, pulling the plug if it's still not working out with support. But that's the exception, not the rule (except maybe with Mandarin)

Yes I've met parents like you. I've spoken to their "totally bilingual" kids.

Even though you're presumably totally monolingual yourself, it's great that you're able to assess your child's spanish.

Look, I'm in my top choice immersion charter and my kids speak three languages. I don't give a crap what you think or do. But I think it would generally be unfair to the class to struggle along for a few months (assuming your snowflake is just some sort of language superstar which ?) until your kid catches up.

New poster here and I think you are so rude.

One, you are not in school- your kids are are.

Two, I speak multiple languages as well and try to encourage monolingual families to learn languages.

Three, if your kids are being brought down by someone in the class being behind, maybe they aren't as smart as you think they are?

I think you're a sad person. Pathetic even.

I guess your pathetic boosterism prevents you from seeing that if a teacher is distracted because one kid doesn't understand what is happening that would be a burden on everyone. It is unfair.

Leave those MV upper elementary spots for kids who speak Spanish.

Oh and you smell like the kind of person who complains about kids who "aren't ready to learn". Guess what- kids who can't understand what's happening aren't ready to learn either. But I guess it's ok if they are white kids.

I'm not at Mundo Verde, but nice try.

I hope you're not at an elementary school, but given your poor reading comprehension, I wouldn't be surprised.

THE WHOLE POINT OF MY QUESTION IS WHETHER KIDS AT MUNDO SUFFER BECAUSE THEY ARE FORCED TO ACCEPT KIDS THAT DONT SPEAK SPANISH IN THE UPPER ELEMENTARY GRADES.

Go away and pick a fight elsewhere.

NP reading today's posts on this discussion. You are the only one picking a fight here.

Anonymous wrote:What does ITS stand for?

Inspired Teaching School

Turning down a Yu Ying pk4 spot (WL number under 10) for Mundo Verde.

What does ITS stand for?

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Anonymous wrote:Turned down MV prek4 today

In favor of?

CMI
And it was the hardest decision I've ever had to make.

Congrats!

Thank you!

I made the same decision last year and am happy with CMI.

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Anonymous wrote:Sad how so many parents are willing to blindly believe their kids can do the impossible despite the obvious.

No, it is NOT impossible. Our kid is proof, monolingual and got in in 1st grade - excelling now in 3rd.

It may not be for every child, but a PP was right to point out how sad it is that some parents are as short-sighted and have blanket low expectations of kids overall the way you do. What's "obvious" is that many mkno-ingual kids can do great starting at first, you just have to be vigilant as a parent in supporting and, if necessary, pulling the plug if it's still not working out with support. But that's the exception, not the rule (except maybe with Mandarin)

Yes I've met parents like you. I've spoken to their "totally bilingual" kids.

Even though you're presumably totally monolingual yourself, it's great that you're able to assess your child's spanish.

Look, I'm in my top choice immersion charter and my kids speak three languages. I don't give a crap what you think or do. But I think it would generally be unfair to the class to struggle along for a few months (assuming your snowflake is just some sort of language superstar which ?) until your kid catches up.

New poster here and I think you are so rude.

One, you are not in school- your kids are are.

Two, I speak multiple languages as well and try to encourage monolingual families to learn languages.

Three, if your kids are being brought down by someone in the class being behind, maybe they aren't as smart as you think they are?

I think you're a sad person. Pathetic even.

I guess your pathetic boosterism prevents you from seeing that if a teacher is distracted because one kid doesn't understand what is happening that would be a burden on everyone. It is unfair.

Leave those MV upper elementary spots for kids who speak Spanish.

Oh and you smell like the kind of person who complains about kids who "aren't ready to learn". Guess what- kids who can't understand what's happening aren't ready to learn either. But I guess it's ok if they are white kids.

I'm not at Mundo Verde, but nice try.

I hope you're not at an elementary school, but given your poor reading comprehension, I wouldn't be surprised.

THE WHOLE POINT OF MY QUESTION IS WHETHER KIDS AT MUNDO SUFFER BECAUSE THEY ARE FORCED TO ACCEPT KIDS THAT DONT SPEAK SPANISH IN THE UPPER ELEMENTARY GRADES.

Go away and pick a fight elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Sad how so many parents are willing to blindly believe their kids can do the impossible despite the obvious.

No, it is NOT impossible. Our kid is proof, monolingual and got in in 1st grade - excelling now in 3rd.

It may not be for every child, but a PP was right to point out how sad it is that some parents are as short-sighted and have blanket low expectations of kids overall the way you do. What's "obvious" is that many mkno-ingual kids can do great starting at first, you just have to be vigilant as a parent in supporting and, if necessary, pulling the plug if it's still not working out with support. But that's the exception, not the rule (except maybe with Mandarin)

Yes I've met parents like you. I've spoken to their "totally bilingual" kids.

Even though you're presumably totally monolingual yourself, it's great that you're able to assess your child's spanish.

Look, I'm in my top choice immersion charter and my kids speak three languages. I don't give a crap what you think or do. But I think it would generally be unfair to the class to struggle along for a few months (assuming your snowflake is just some sort of language superstar which ?) until your kid catches up.

New poster here and I think you are so rude.

One, you are not in school- your kids are are.

Two, I speak multiple languages as well and try to encourage monolingual families to learn languages.

Three, if your kids are being brought down by someone in the class being behind, maybe they aren't as smart as you think they are?

I think you're a sad person. Pathetic even.

I guess your pathetic boosterism prevents you from seeing that if a teacher is distracted because one kid doesn't understand what is happening that would be a burden on everyone. It is unfair.

Leave those MV upper elementary spots for kids who speak Spanish.

Oh and you smell like the kind of person who complains about kids who "aren't ready to learn". Guess what- kids who can't understand what's happening aren't ready to learn either. But I guess it's ok if they are white kids.

Not PP, but they're right. You're rude and judgemental. By your tone you sound like a parent who blames everything that doesn't satisfy you about your own kid on everyone else's kids. Newsflash: your limited view on what kids can accomplish does not mean kids aren't exceeding your narrow view all over DC.
And apparently educators who started these schools and know far far more about what's possible than a judgemental parent on DCUM believe kids can start as late as 1st grade and thrive. Your nasty attitude is misplaced - take it up with the school Admins who make/propose the rules to PCSB or DCPS. As long as it's allowed, parents will use the option. Rightly so, and often with good results.

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Anonymous wrote:Sad how so many parents are willing to blindly believe their kids can do the impossible despite the obvious.

No, it is NOT impossible. Our kid is proof, monolingual and got in in 1st grade - excelling now in 3rd.

It may not be for every child, but a PP was right to point out how sad it is that some parents are as short-sighted and have blanket low expectations of kids overall the way you do. What's "obvious" is that many mkno-ingual kids can do great starting at first, you just have to be vigilant as a parent in supporting and, if necessary, pulling the plug if it's still not working out with support. But that's the exception, not the rule (except maybe with Mandarin)

Yes I've met parents like you. I've spoken to their "totally bilingual" kids.

Even though you're presumably totally monolingual yourself, it's great that you're able to assess your child's spanish.

Look, I'm in my top choice immersion charter and my kids speak three languages. I don't give a crap what you think or do. But I think it would generally be unfair to the class to struggle along for a few months (assuming your snowflake is just some sort of language superstar which ?) until your kid catches up.

New poster here and I think you are so rude.

One, you are not in school- your kids are are.

Two, I speak multiple languages as well and try to encourage monolingual families to learn languages.

Three, if your kids are being brought down by someone in the class being behind, maybe they aren't as smart as you think they are?

I think you're a sad person. Pathetic even.

I guess your pathetic boosterism prevents you from seeing that if a teacher is distracted because one kid doesn't understand what is happening that would be a burden on everyone. It is unfair.

Leave those MV upper elementary spots for kids who speak Spanish.

Oh and you smell like the kind of person who complains about kids who "aren't ready to learn". Guess what- kids who can't understand what's happening aren't ready to learn either. But I guess it's ok if they are white kids.

I'm not at Mundo Verde, but nice try.