Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 20:05     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples


Then, by your own logic, bringing up the article talking about corporate linkages to Common Core is a red herring.


Hardly. The connection there is that the publishing companies profit from this. Do not understand how the people you cited profit.




Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 19:59     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

Anonymous wrote:

How about reading up on the CC detractors like Heartland Institute and then going to Sourcewatch and you'll find the myriad corporate connections there, i.e. Koch Industries and many allied enterprises and all of the shills and front organizations they hide behind, like Heritage Foundation, Competetive Enterprise Institute, et cetera... They seem to have a vested interest in rolling everything back and dumbing America down, to be pumping millions into those CC bashing activities...


Red Herring.



Then, by your own logic, bringing up the article talking about corporate linkages to Common Core is a red herring.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 19:56     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

Anonymous wrote:So, how is Common Core going to help?


How will Common Core hurt?

The Common Core standards are not going to fix every problem in education, and nobody should expect them to. The problems that they will fix are the problems that come from having inadequate standards or no standards.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 19:55     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

Anonymous wrote:

while on average, kids from higher SES do read by end of K.


Reading by the end of k is one thing, the Common Core standards for K require much more than just reading.



Actually they don't require reading by the end of kindergarten. They require beginning to learn how to read. Or, anyway, I don't consider reading "emergent readers" to be really reading.

MCPS actually used to expect a higher level of reading from kindergarteners at the end of the year than they do now that Maryland has adopted the Common Core standards. Further confirmation for the people on the Maryland Public Schools forum who insist that 2.0 has "dumbed down" MCPS, I suppose.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 19:52     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples


How about reading up on the CC detractors like Heartland Institute and then going to Sourcewatch and you'll find the myriad corporate connections there, i.e. Koch Industries and many allied enterprises and all of the shills and front organizations they hide behind, like Heritage Foundation, Competetive Enterprise Institute, et cetera... They seem to have a vested interest in rolling everything back and dumbing America down, to be pumping millions into those CC bashing activities...


Red Herring.




Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 19:50     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples


while on average, kids from higher SES do read by end of K.


Reading by the end of k is one thing, the Common Core standards for K require much more than just reading.





Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 19:49     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

So, how is Common Core going to help?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 19:47     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

Addressing the argument about whether kids were reading by end of K before CC.

http://news.yahoo.com/kindergarten-skills-vary-kids-social-economic-status-170724505.html

Again, the study is pre CC. It shows exactly what you might expect: kids from lower SES on average don't read by K, while on average, kids from higher SES do read by end of K.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 19:38     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

Anonymous wrote:http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/18442-flow-chart-exposes-common-cores-myriad-corporate-connections

Here you go. Please read the transcript. The flow chart is interesting --but overwhelming.


How about reading up on the CC detractors like Heartland Institute and then going to Sourcewatch and you'll find the myriad corporate connections there, i.e. Koch Industries and many allied enterprises and all of the shills and front organizations they hide behind, like Heritage Foundation, Competetive Enterprise Institute, et cetera... They seem to have a vested interest in rolling everything back and dumbing America down, to be pumping millions into those CC bashing activities...
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 19:36     Subject: How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

If the anti-CC folks are so fucking brilliant and know so much better than everyone else what constitutes good education, then why haven't they come up with something better? Why haven't they come up with ONE SINGLE GODDAMN THING other than this nonstop barrage of sniping, attacks and disinformation?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 10:16     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://host.madison.com/news/local/education/local_schools/cost-of-common-core-tests-millions-more-than-expected/article_6872d4fc-10da-5b97-9ec3-95e2d50477cb.html

If you want to know who benefits most from Common Core, here you go. Please do some research of the connection of committee members to test publishers.
Enough said.


Who benefits financially from any decision about school materials? The school materials publishing industry. Basically by definition.


Who says the educational media industry can't be disrupted? How about Khan Academy or the myriad online offerings out there?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 08:58     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/18442-flow-chart-exposes-common-cores-myriad-corporate-connections

Here you go. Please read the transcript. The flow chart is interesting --but overwhelming.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 08:57     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

Anonymous wrote:

Who benefits financially from any decision about school materials? The school materials publishing industry. Basically by definition.


That shouldn't mean that they get the right to write the standards. And, they did.



Yes, you, or somebody, or somebodies, keep saying that. Repeating something doesn't make it more true. And, really, so what if they did? I honestly don't care who wrote the standards. The only thing I care about is whether the standards are an improvement. And I think that they are an improvement.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 08:52     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples


Who benefits financially from any decision about school materials? The school materials publishing industry. Basically by definition.


That shouldn't mean that they get the right to write the standards. And, they did.




Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 08:50     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

Anonymous wrote:http://host.madison.com/news/local/education/local_schools/cost-of-common-core-tests-millions-more-than-expected/article_6872d4fc-10da-5b97-9ec3-95e2d50477cb.html

If you want to know who benefits most from Common Core, here you go. Please do some research of the connection of committee members to test publishers.
Enough said.


Who benefits financially from any decision about school materials? The school materials publishing industry. Basically by definition.