Anonymous
02/01/2015 18:04
Subject: Re:roll back NCLB?
Anonymous
02/01/2015 09:53
Subject: Re:roll back NCLB?
The liberals and noncapitalists are the ones already thinking about it. The conservatives and capitalists are the ones who are going to be the biggest obstruction to the process.
Well, let's see what the next election brings. Nothing stays the same in politics. Eventually the more pragmatic middle is found. Education really should not be politicized at all. The states and teachers should be free (within some broader guidelines that are not attached to punitive tests that suck the life out of people) to do what is best for their particular students (regardless of what someone writes in one book about the "future". There are many books that argue differently). There are people who want the DOE to go away and people who want the DOE to get more involved. The middle is out there. I think the DOE crossed the line with the CC. The failure of NCLB should have been the "writing on the wall". Apparently not.
Anonymous
01/31/2015 22:46
Subject: Re:roll back NCLB?
Anonymous wrote:Figure that one out, conservatives and capitalists.
Hmmm. Maybe the liberals and noncapitalists can help to figure it out?
Maybe unemployment will not matter in the future. Maybe there will be enough resources generated through all the wondrous technology that people can live freely without employment. That would be incredible . . . and fun! Go technology.
OTOH, I remember in the 1960's when they said that we would all have a 4 day work week in the future with lots of leisure time to ourselves.
The liberals and noncapitalists are the ones already thinking about it. The conservatives and capitalists are the ones who are going to be the biggest obstruction to the process.
Anonymous
01/31/2015 20:08
Subject: roll back NCLB?
This is about Dave Coleman, the architect of CC, who is now the head of the College Board. The more I look into all of this, the more sickening it gets. Here is part of the article:
"Democracy depends on citizens’ treating one another with respect. In perhaps his most famous public statement, Coleman told a room of educators not to teach students to write personal narratives, because “as you grow up in this world, you realize that people really don’t give a shit about what you feel or what you think.” This statement expresses, albeit more crassly, the same sentiment as his essay on cultivating wonder. He demands that students do what they are told and not offer their own perspectives on things. Ideally in a democracy, by contrast, citizens have a sincere interest in what other citizens have to say. As John Dewey argued in “Democracy and Education,” the purpose of the schools is to create a democratic culture, not one that replicates the worst features of the market economy.
A recurrent defense of the Common Core is that the standards are good but the implementation has been bad. Even if Coleman’s educational vision is perfectly actualized, it is still profoundly flawed. Under Common Core, from the time they enter kindergarten to the time they graduate from high school, students will have few opportunities to ask their own questions or come up with their own ideas. It’s time for Americans to find alternatives to Coleman’s educational vision."
Here is the link:
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/12/common-core-collegeboardeducation.html
"Democracy depends on citizens’ treating one another with respect. In perhaps his most famous public statement, Coleman told a room of educators not to teach students to write personal narratives, because “as you grow up in this world, you realize that people really don’t give a shit about what you feel or what you think.” This statement expresses, albeit more crassly, the same sentiment as his essay on cultivating wonder. He demands that students do what they are told and not offer their own perspectives on things. Ideally in a democracy, by contrast, citizens have a sincere interest in what other citizens have to say. As John Dewey argued in “Democracy and Education,” the purpose of the schools is to create a democratic culture, not one that replicates the worst features of the market economy.
A recurrent defense of the Common Core is that the standards are good but the implementation has been bad. Even if Coleman’s educational vision is perfectly actualized, it is still profoundly flawed. Under Common Core, from the time they enter kindergarten to the time they graduate from high school, students will have few opportunities to ask their own questions or come up with their own ideas. It’s time for Americans to find alternatives to Coleman’s educational vision."
Here is the link:
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/12/common-core-collegeboardeducation.html
Anonymous
01/31/2015 19:21
Subject: Re:roll back NCLB?
used to teach in New York state so this is pretty emotional. New York state has had high standards. I'm shocked that they have come to this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/w...e-testing-i-am-a-broken-woman/
Thanks for the post. Sad and disturbing. Hope people wake up.
Anonymous
01/31/2015 19:08
Subject: roll back NCLB?
I used to teach in New York state so this is pretty emotional. New York state has had high standards. I'm shocked that they have come to this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/01/22/teacher-on-common-core-testing-i-am-a-broken-woman/
Anonymous
01/31/2015 13:32
Subject: Re:roll back NCLB?
Standards are not the problem. Testing is not helping. Money won't help either. Money hasn't helped either.
Anonymous
01/31/2015 12:26
Subject: Re:roll back NCLB?
Figure that one out, conservatives and capitalists.
Hmmm. Maybe the liberals and noncapitalists can help to figure it out?
Maybe unemployment will not matter in the future. Maybe there will be enough resources generated through all the wondrous technology that people can live freely without employment. That would be incredible . . . and fun! Go technology.
OTOH, I remember in the 1960's when they said that we would all have a 4 day work week in the future with lots of leisure time to ourselves.