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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that the c-section rates keep rising though the reasons to have them don't. I don't understand why the rates are so high and why it's becoming more and more common. So what was your experience? Did you want one? Was it suggested by your doctor? Was it in your mind necessary? I know they cost more and I wonder if that's an incentive. I am not opposed to one if medically necessary however it worries me that they are becoming more common with a solid reason why. Please share!

I really don't like the way you posted this - as if it's any of your business why people have c/s or if it's something to be ashamed of.

Why did I have a c/s? Let's see, I had pre-e and my blood pressure was so high my doctors feared I was going to have a heart attack and my daughter would die in utero. Was it necessary? Um, death or c/s? I chose c/s - but thanks for you trite little post OP. My doctor did not "suggest" it - as I was rushed into the emergency room and not really given a "choice"

Glad you are so "worried" about what other women are doing about their choices for labor. Maybe choose another thing to worry about (homeless, education in America) vs. who bring children into the world and how.

wow pp. you have problems.

She seems quite reasonable to me, actually.

Really? When OP explicitly said she wasn't worried about medically necessary c sections like pp's? You think pp is reasonable to bitch out an OP on an anonymous discussion board that something is none of her business?

Exactly the point, she didn't really say anything. She just generally posted a rambling thought about something that is obviously touchy to many people. Like if I posted "why don't people breastfeed more, people who don't worry me" or "why do people adopt? people who do should have their own kids, that worries me." or maybe even "why do people have more two children? People who do seem selfish on the planet, that worries me?"

Had she used just a little of her brain power, she might have realized that this could be a sensitive topic, but no - she went to an anonymous discussion board to post her Barbie doll thought process. And, I have a right to pretty much bitch her out for not thinking something through all the way. As, I would have done if she had been so ignorant to have said this in person to my face.

C-sections actually increase national costs and risks to infants. so if it's not medically necessary it's definitely a reasonable question and it's all of our business.

No, it's still not your business. I'm guessing you're one of those assholes who is constantly ranting about the myriad ways in which "your tax dollars" are being misspent.

I agree with the last poster but more importantly vaginal births are NOT safer for infants -- see my post on expectant moms from a clouple weeks back where I cited that death risks more than double for vaginal births over C-sections. However, death rates for mothers, even years later from things like heart attacks are higher although this may also be correlation rather than causation. This is all backed up in links to top tier NIH panels in the pots.

I think unfounded sanctimoniousness from random people in the population is probably not what our health care system needs to improve.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe some of you scheduled cs because you couldn't have an epidural. Or that your OB went along with that awful decision. WOW.

Shut it.

Why? You're part of the problem, just because you can't be bothered to take a labor class and deal with a bit of pain.

You're actually more of a problem with your flat out ignorance.

When you pay for your elective c-section fully out of pocket, then I don't get a say.

Oh, aren't you clever! I'm the c-section because of breech because of a tumor. Then I VBACd.

Why are you blaming patients for something that's pretty much beyond their control? Blame doctors. Blame hospitals. Insurance. Because when they come to you, in deep labor or pregnancy, and say "do this or your baby might die," what the hell do you think 99.999% of mothers are going to do? You got problems with the c-section rate? I do. But that's something beyond the control of the patient, and the 100% truly elective c-section is pretty much a rhinoceros. Real, but super uncommon.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that the c-section rates keep rising though the reasons to have them don't. I don't understand why the rates are so high and why it's becoming more and more common. So what was your experience? Did you want one? Was it suggested by your doctor? Was it in your mind necessary? I know they cost more and I wonder if that's an incentive. I am not opposed to one if medically necessary however it worries me that they are becoming more common with a solid reason why. Please share!

I really don't like the way you posted this - as if it's any of your business why people have c/s or if it's something to be ashamed of.

Why did I have a c/s? Let's see, I had pre-e and my blood pressure was so high my doctors feared I was going to have a heart attack and my daughter would die in utero. Was it necessary? Um, death or c/s? I chose c/s - but thanks for you trite little post OP. My doctor did not "suggest" it - as I was rushed into the emergency room and not really given a "choice"

Glad you are so "worried" about what other women are doing about their choices for labor. Maybe choose another thing to worry about (homeless, education in America) vs. who bring children into the world and how.

wow pp. you have problems.

She seems quite reasonable to me, actually.

Really? When OP explicitly said she wasn't worried about medically necessary c sections like pp's? You think pp is reasonable to bitch out an OP on an anonymous discussion board that something is none of her business?

Exactly the point, she didn't really say anything. She just generally posted a rambling thought about something that is obviously touchy to many people. Like if I posted "why don't people breastfeed more, people who don't worry me" or "why do people adopt? people who do should have their own kids, that worries me." or maybe even "why do people have more two children? People who do seem selfish on the planet, that worries me?"

Had she used just a little of her brain power, she might have realized that this could be a sensitive topic, but no - she went to an anonymous discussion board to post her Barbie doll thought process. And, I have a right to pretty much bitch her out for not thinking something through all the way. As, I would have done if she had been so ignorant to have said this in person to my face.

Your examples are telling, because they don't appear at all similar to OP's post to me. She started with a question about a general fact she'd heard--rates are rising yet the causes are not increasing. She then asked for personal examples. So it's more like
"I keep reading that BFing rates start out high in the hospital but then drop a lot at 6 months. I don't understand why the rates would go down so dramatically. So what was your experience? Did you want to breastfeed? How long did you? Why did you stop? I understand not doing it if you have no milk but it worries me that so many people stop by 6 months. Please share!"

Only someone really hung up about their BFing experience would respond to that on DCUM by bitching out OP with "it's none of your business." (in person is different, but we are not in person, so it's irrelevant)

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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that the c-section rates keep rising though the reasons to have them don't. I don't understand why the rates are so high and why it's becoming more and more common. So what was your experience? Did you want one? Was it suggested by your doctor? Was it in your mind necessary? I know they cost more and I wonder if that's an incentive. I am not opposed to one if medically necessary however it worries me that they are becoming more common with a solid reason why. Please share!

I really don't like the way you posted this - as if it's any of your business why people have c/s or if it's something to be ashamed of.

Why did I have a c/s? Let's see, I had pre-e and my blood pressure was so high my doctors feared I was going to have a heart attack and my daughter would die in utero. Was it necessary? Um, death or c/s? I chose c/s - but thanks for you trite little post OP. My doctor did not "suggest" it - as I was rushed into the emergency room and not really given a "choice"

Glad you are so "worried" about what other women are doing about their choices for labor. Maybe choose another thing to worry about (homeless, education in America) vs. who bring children into the world and how.

wow pp. you have problems.

She seems quite reasonable to me, actually.

Really? When OP explicitly said she wasn't worried about medically necessary c sections like pp's? You think pp is reasonable to bitch out an OP on an anonymous discussion board that something is none of her business?

I think the point is that OP (and people like you) seem to be suggesting that every c-section has to go through an adversarial inquiry to determine whether or not it was medically necessary. MYOB, basically, is PP's response to that.

You, and pp, are projecting. I have bolded the part that makes that clear.

OP has read articles and wanted to know how what she's read about plays out in everyday experience. What seems so ridiculous to me about pre-E PP's post is that nobody made her post to this thread, yet her response reads as though she has been through an adversarial inquiry (nice phrase btw). She may well have been, but it wasn't OP who put her through it.

Whatever you're projecting is clearly threatened by people who are very happy with their medically necessary c-sections.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that the c-section rates keep rising though the reasons to have them don't. I don't understand why the rates are so high and why it's becoming more and more common. So what was your experience? Did you want one? Was it suggested by your doctor? Was it in your mind necessary? I know they cost more and I wonder if that's an incentive. I am not opposed to one if medically necessary however it worries me that they are becoming more common with a solid reason why. Please share!

I really don't like the way you posted this - as if it's any of your business why people have c/s or if it's something to be ashamed of.

Why did I have a c/s? Let's see, I had pre-e and my blood pressure was so high my doctors feared I was going to have a heart attack and my daughter would die in utero. Was it necessary? Um, death or c/s? I chose c/s - but thanks for you trite little post OP. My doctor did not "suggest" it - as I was rushed into the emergency room and not really given a "choice"

Glad you are so "worried" about what other women are doing about their choices for labor. Maybe choose another thing to worry about (homeless, education in America) vs. who bring children into the world and how.

wow pp. you have problems.

She seems quite reasonable to me, actually.

Really? When OP explicitly said she wasn't worried about medically necessary c sections like pp's? You think pp is reasonable to bitch out an OP on an anonymous discussion board that something is none of her business?

Exactly the point, she didn't really say anything. She just generally posted a rambling thought about something that is obviously touchy to many people. Like if I posted "why don't people breastfeed more, people who don't worry me" or "why do people adopt? people who do should have their own kids, that worries me." or maybe even "why do people have more two children? People who do seem selfish on the planet, that worries me?"

Had she used just a little of her brain power, she might have realized that this could be a sensitive topic, but no - she went to an anonymous discussion board to post her Barbie doll thought process. And, I have a right to pretty much bitch her out for not thinking something through all the way. As, I would have done if she had been so ignorant to have said this in person to my face.

C-sections actually increase national costs and risks to infants. so if it's not medically necessary it's definitely a reasonable question and it's all of our business.

No, it's still not your business. I'm guessing you're one of those assholes who is constantly ranting about the myriad ways in which "your tax dollars" are being misspent.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe some of you scheduled cs because you couldn't have an epidural. Or that your OB went along with that awful decision. WOW.

Shut it.

Why? You're part of the problem, just because you can't be bothered to take a labor class and deal with a bit of pain.

You're actually more of a problem with your flat out ignorance.

When you pay for your elective c-section fully out of pocket, then I don't get a say.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that the c-section rates keep rising though the reasons to have them don't. I don't understand why the rates are so high and why it's becoming more and more common. So what was your experience? Did you want one? Was it suggested by your doctor? Was it in your mind necessary? I know they cost more and I wonder if that's an incentive. I am not opposed to one if medically necessary however it worries me that they are becoming more common with a solid reason why. Please share!

I really don't like the way you posted this - as if it's any of your business why people have c/s or if it's something to be ashamed of.

Why did I have a c/s? Let's see, I had pre-e and my blood pressure was so high my doctors feared I was going to have a heart attack and my daughter would die in utero. Was it necessary? Um, death or c/s? I chose c/s - but thanks for you trite little post OP. My doctor did not "suggest" it - as I was rushed into the emergency room and not really given a "choice"

Glad you are so "worried" about what other women are doing about their choices for labor. Maybe choose another thing to worry about (homeless, education in America) vs. who bring children into the world and how.

wow pp. you have problems.

She seems quite reasonable to me, actually.

Really? When OP explicitly said she wasn't worried about medically necessary c sections like pp's? You think pp is reasonable to bitch out an OP on an anonymous discussion board that something is none of her business?

I think the point is that OP (and people like you) seem to be suggesting that every c-section has to go through an adversarial inquiry to determine whether or not it was medically necessary. MYOB, basically, is PP's response to that.

You, and pp, are projecting. I have bolded the part that makes that clear.

OP has read articles and wanted to know how what she's read about plays out in everyday experience. What seems so ridiculous to me about pre-E PP's post is that nobody made her post to this thread, yet her response reads as though she has been through an adversarial inquiry (nice phrase btw). She may well have been, but it wasn't OP who put her through it.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that the c-section rates keep rising though the reasons to have them don't. I don't understand why the rates are so high and why it's becoming more and more common. So what was your experience? Did you want one? Was it suggested by your doctor? Was it in your mind necessary? I know they cost more and I wonder if that's an incentive. I am not opposed to one if medically necessary however it worries me that they are becoming more common with a solid reason why. Please share!

I really don't like the way you posted this - as if it's any of your business why people have c/s or if it's something to be ashamed of.

Why did I have a c/s? Let's see, I had pre-e and my blood pressure was so high my doctors feared I was going to have a heart attack and my daughter would die in utero. Was it necessary? Um, death or c/s? I chose c/s - but thanks for you trite little post OP. My doctor did not "suggest" it - as I was rushed into the emergency room and not really given a "choice"

Glad you are so "worried" about what other women are doing about their choices for labor. Maybe choose another thing to worry about (homeless, education in America) vs. who bring children into the world and how.

wow pp. you have problems.

She seems quite reasonable to me, actually.

Really? When OP explicitly said she wasn't worried about medically necessary c sections like pp's? You think pp is reasonable to bitch out an OP on an anonymous discussion board that something is none of her business?

Exactly the point, she didn't really say anything. She just generally posted a rambling thought about something that is obviously touchy to many people. Like if I posted "why don't people breastfeed more, people who don't worry me" or "why do people adopt? people who do should have their own kids, that worries me." or maybe even "why do people have more two children? People who do seem selfish on the planet, that worries me?"

Had she used just a little of her brain power, she might have realized that this could be a sensitive topic, but no - she went to an anonymous discussion board to post her Barbie doll thought process. And, I have a right to pretty much bitch her out for not thinking something through all the way. As, I would have done if she had been so ignorant to have said this in person to my face.

C-sections actually increase national costs and risks to infants. so if it's not medically necessary it's definitely a reasonable question and it's all of our business.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that the c-section rates keep rising though the reasons to have them don't. I don't understand why the rates are so high and why it's becoming more and more common. So what was your experience? Did you want one? Was it suggested by your doctor? Was it in your mind necessary? I know they cost more and I wonder if that's an incentive. I am not opposed to one if medically necessary however it worries me that they are becoming more common with a solid reason why. Please share!

I really don't like the way you posted this - as if it's any of your business why people have c/s or if it's something to be ashamed of.

Why did I have a c/s? Let's see, I had pre-e and my blood pressure was so high my doctors feared I was going to have a heart attack and my daughter would die in utero. Was it necessary? Um, death or c/s? I chose c/s - but thanks for you trite little post OP. My doctor did not "suggest" it - as I was rushed into the emergency room and not really given a "choice"

Glad you are so "worried" about what other women are doing about their choices for labor. Maybe choose another thing to worry about (homeless, education in America) vs. who bring children into the world and how.

wow pp. you have problems.

She seems quite reasonable to me, actually.

Really? When OP explicitly said she wasn't worried about medically necessary c sections like pp's? You think pp is reasonable to bitch out an OP on an anonymous discussion board that something is none of her business?

Are you new to DCUM?

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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that the c-section rates keep rising though the reasons to have them don't. I don't understand why the rates are so high and why it's becoming more and more common. So what was your experience? Did you want one? Was it suggested by your doctor? Was it in your mind necessary? I know they cost more and I wonder if that's an incentive. I am not opposed to one if medically necessary however it worries me that they are becoming more common with a solid reason why. Please share!

I really don't like the way you posted this - as if it's any of your business why people have c/s or if it's something to be ashamed of.

Why did I have a c/s? Let's see, I had pre-e and my blood pressure was so high my doctors feared I was going to have a heart attack and my daughter would die in utero. Was it necessary? Um, death or c/s? I chose c/s - but thanks for you trite little post OP. My doctor did not "suggest" it - as I was rushed into the emergency room and not really given a "choice"

Glad you are so "worried" about what other women are doing about their choices for labor. Maybe choose another thing to worry about (homeless, education in America) vs. who bring children into the world and how.

wow pp. you have problems.

She seems quite reasonable to me, actually.

Really? When OP explicitly said she wasn't worried about medically necessary c sections like pp's? You think pp is reasonable to bitch out an OP on an anonymous discussion board that something is none of her business?

Exactly the point, she didn't really say anything. She just generally posted a rambling thought about something that is obviously touchy to many people. Like if I posted "why don't people breastfeed more, people who don't worry me" or "why do people adopt? people who do should have their own kids, that worries me." or maybe even "why do people have more two children? People who do seem selfish on the planet, that worries me?"

Had she used just a little of her brain power, she might have realized that this could be a sensitive topic, but no - she went to an anonymous discussion board to post her Barbie doll thought process. And, I have a right to pretty much bitch her out for not thinking something through all the way. As, I would have done if she had been so ignorant to have said this in person to my face.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that the c-section rates keep rising though the reasons to have them don't. I don't understand why the rates are so high and why it's becoming more and more common. So what was your experience? Did you want one? Was it suggested by your doctor? Was it in your mind necessary? I know they cost more and I wonder if that's an incentive. I am not opposed to one if medically necessary however it worries me that they are becoming more common with a solid reason why. Please share!

I really don't like the way you posted this - as if it's any of your business why people have c/s or if it's something to be ashamed of.

Why did I have a c/s? Let's see, I had pre-e and my blood pressure was so high my doctors feared I was going to have a heart attack and my daughter would die in utero. Was it necessary? Um, death or c/s? I chose c/s - but thanks for you trite little post OP. My doctor did not "suggest" it - as I was rushed into the emergency room and not really given a "choice"

Glad you are so "worried" about what other women are doing about their choices for labor. Maybe choose another thing to worry about (homeless, education in America) vs. who bring children into the world and how.

wow pp. you have problems.

She seems quite reasonable to me, actually.

Really? When OP explicitly said she wasn't worried about medically necessary c sections like pp's? You think pp is reasonable to bitch out an OP on an anonymous discussion board that something is none of her business?

I think the point is that OP (and people like you) seem to be suggesting that every c-section has to go through an adversarial inquiry to determine whether or not it was medically necessary. MYOB, basically, is PP's response to that.

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Anonymous wrote:I was induced 1 week post dates- hung in there a few hours with pitocin but when I hadn't progressed any on dilation (4 cm) I got pretty discouraged and asked for an epidural. It took two hours to get the epidural- within the hour after getting it I was at 10 cm and started to push. Pushed for two hours. Arrest of descent. Cue parade of people gently telling me we needed to go to section. Baby was 9lbs and AP as well. I asked to try position change and tried getting on my hands and knees which was pure comedy with an epidural. They played along and then we went to section. Had bad reaction to anesthesia/mess intended shivering, vomiting through the entire section. Does everyone have that? Recovery was not so fun- about 3 weeks I would say. All in all happy my baby was ok.

I had 2 c-sections. The first time I had absolutely no reaction to the meds. The second time I was very nauseated and light-headed during surgery, threw up repeatedly in recovery, and then became extremely itchy. They gave me anti-nausea and anti-itch meds. My guess is that they added morphine to it the second time but not the first (or there was some other variation in the mix of drugs used). It really caught me off guard since I had no problems the first time.

My first c-section I got really itchy but it was an emergency c, I was awake for it but maybe they had to give me something that would work ASAP. I didn't get the itches with my 2nd - that was a planned c-section, very unrushed, we were all joking in the OR sort of deal.

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Anonymous wrote:I was induced 1 week post dates- hung in there a few hours with pitocin but when I hadn't progressed any on dilation (4 cm) I got pretty discouraged and asked for an epidural. It took two hours to get the epidural- within the hour after getting it I was at 10 cm and started to push. Pushed for two hours. Arrest of descent. Cue parade of people gently telling me we needed to go to section. Baby was 9lbs and AP as well. I asked to try position change and tried getting on my hands and knees which was pure comedy with an epidural. They played along and then we went to section. Had bad reaction to anesthesia/mess intended shivering, vomiting through the entire section. Does everyone have that? Recovery was not so fun- about 3 weeks I would say. All in all happy my baby was ok.

I had 2 c-sections. The first time I had absolutely no reaction to the meds. The second time I was very nauseated and light-headed during surgery, threw up repeatedly in recovery, and then became extremely itchy. They gave me anti-nausea and anti-itch meds. My guess is that they added morphine to it the second time but not the first (or there was some other variation in the mix of drugs used). It really caught me off guard since I had no problems the first time.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that the c-section rates keep rising though the reasons to have them don't. I don't understand why the rates are so high and why it's becoming more and more common. So what was your experience? Did you want one? Was it suggested by your doctor? Was it in your mind necessary? I know they cost more and I wonder if that's an incentive. I am not opposed to one if medically necessary however it worries me that they are becoming more common with a solid reason why. Please share!

I really don't like the way you posted this - as if it's any of your business why people have c/s or if it's something to be ashamed of.

Why did I have a c/s? Let's see, I had pre-e and my blood pressure was so high my doctors feared I was going to have a heart attack and my daughter would die in utero. Was it necessary? Um, death or c/s? I chose c/s - but thanks for you trite little post OP. My doctor did not "suggest" it - as I was rushed into the emergency room and not really given a "choice"

Glad you are so "worried" about what other women are doing about their choices for labor. Maybe choose another thing to worry about (homeless, education in America) vs. who bring children into the world and how.

wow pp. you have problems.

She seems quite reasonable to me, actually.

Really? When OP explicitly said she wasn't worried about medically necessary c sections like pp's? You think pp is reasonable to bitch out an OP on an anonymous discussion board that something is none of her business?