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Anonymous wrote:Op here again, I am not talking about people who live in abject poverty eat. I am talking about people who had the opportunities to make certain decisions with their lives be at get an MBA or an engineering degree but decided that working for the department of agriculture or And obscure nonprofit was what they wanted to do. That is all well and good but you must realize that with that life comes certain sacrifices. Just stop blaming people like me who chose to go the other route. Yes money was a motivating factor with everything I did up until I actually started working.

The problem with people like you is you don't realize how your own greed affects others. I work for a law firm that is about to fall apart. Over the last several years, staff have been forced to go without pay raises, we've had large increases in their health insurance costs, and have had other benefits reduced. We've had to go through multiple rounds of lay-offs, with the result that my workload has increased and I make LESS money. The attitude of the firm is that we should feel lucky to have jobs at all. We stay because we are desperate, not because the jobs are good. It should not be this way. I've heard attorneys say "if you wanted to make any money, you should have gone to Harvard like me." Well, not everyone wants to be a lawyer. Not everyone wants an MBA. That shouldn't be the ONLY option to make a decent salary that can support someone in a large urban area. It shouldn't have to be a choice between a millionaire and having nothing.

At the same time I read about how the partners at my firm have made more money than ever the last few years. But staff cuts can no longer finance the partner compensation increases. Now that they are faced with a decrease in their already overblown compensation, they are all going to just jump ship to go to some other place stupid enough to give them large pay guarantees. The staff will be unemployed.

The company I work for should pay me enough that I don't have to just scrape by. In no way do I think I should make as much as the attorneys, but the difference between what the people at the top make and the rest of the company gets larger and larger. The greed is mind blowing.

Your sense of entitlement is mind blowing. You are not owed anything in this world. You are not owed this job. Want to make more than "scrape by money"? Go start a company that does what you do and outsource to a number of law firms. Big risk. It might fail, but if it succeeds you'll be handsomely paid. Until then be thankful you have a job.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here again, I am not talking about people who live in abject poverty eat. I am talking about people who had the opportunities to make certain decisions with their lives be at get an MBA or an engineering degree but decided that working for the department of agriculture or And obscure nonprofit was what they wanted to do. That is all well and good but you must realize that with that life comes certain sacrifices. Just stop blaming people like me who chose to go the other route. Yes money was a motivating factor with everything I did up until I actually started working.

The problem with people like you is you don't realize how your own greed affects others. I work for a law firm that is about to fall apart. Over the last several years, staff have been forced to go without pay raises, we've had large increases in their health insurance costs, and have had other benefits reduced. We've had to go through multiple rounds of lay-offs, with the result that my workload has increased and I make LESS money. The attitude of the firm is that we should feel lucky to have jobs at all. We stay because we are desperate, not because the jobs are good. It should not be this way. I've heard attorneys say "if you wanted to make any money, you should have gone to Harvard like me." Well, not everyone wants to be a lawyer. Not everyone wants an MBA. That shouldn't be the ONLY option to make a decent salary that can support someone in a large urban area. It shouldn't have to be a choice between a millionaire and having nothing.

At the same time I read about how the partners at my firm have made more money than ever the last few years. But staff cuts can no longer finance the partner compensation increases. Now that they are faced with a decrease in their already overblown compensation, they are all going to just jump ship to go to some other place stupid enough to give them large pay guarantees. The staff will be unemployed.

The company I work for should pay me enough that I don't have to just scrape by. In no way do I think I should make as much as the attorneys, but the difference between what the people at the top make and the rest of the company gets larger and larger. The greed is mind blowing.

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that OP works in finance. He fits the obnoxious, narcissistic trope.

Anonymous wrote:Op here again, I am not talking about people who live in abject poverty eat. I am talking about people who had the opportunities to make certain decisions with their lives be at get an MBA or an engineering degree but decided that working for the department of agriculture or And obscure nonprofit was what they wanted to do. That is all well and good but you must realize that with that life comes certain sacrifices. Just stop blaming people like me who chose to go the other route. Yes money was a motivating factor with everything I did up until I actually started working.

Anonymous wrote:Sorry your penis is small.

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Anonymous wrote:It is a common misconception in America that just because someone is poor, then that is their fault.

Everyone is under the belief that in this country of ours, EVERYONE who wants to make it CAN.

And those that do not make it, only do not make it due to fault of their own.

That in America, EVERYONE has a shot at the brass ring.

This is the American Myth. It is pure mythology folks.

Why? For the obvious reason. Do the math.

Because theoretically speaking, there are not enough decent jobs in this country for EVERY single person in this country.

It just isn't possible for each and every single American in our country to hold a decent job here. It could never happen. And anyone who says it could is dreaming.

Well, yes, but that is not in contradiction to saying those who work hardest and are smartest are bound to end up better off than those who do not, barring some major bad luck (like being hit by a car crossing the street and turning into a vegetable).

When I was a cild, my family immigrated here with nothing but two suitcases each and less money than it would take to pay a month of rent on a crappy apartment. Knowledge of English at the time varied from very basic to nonexistent. Guess what? Every single one of my family members is currently middle class or upper middle class - the adults worked hard and made the way, the children studied hard (in practical fields) and then worked hard. I also have a number of immigrant friends with similar stories. As far as I and people around me are concerned, the American dream works fine.

Just curious, pp. How much did the government help you and your family? What kind of benefits did you receive? SNAP? Subsidized housing? Anything?

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I'm not. I didn't come from money. Lower middle class at best and a shitty mid western town that is slowly decaying due to offshoring.

Sorry you didn't choose a major in college that has high paying mid career salary and went with a liberal arts degree that makes you feel smart but pays $30k a year. You should have taken out loans like me and gone to business school. Sorry you didn't take a job fraught with risk and move to the budding new Silicon Valley of nova with a ton of student debt but with hope for the upside. Actually nope not sorry at all. The heated seats in my GL550 warm my soul.

I hear you OP. Choices matter. If one majors in women's studies or art history, how many jobs are there? Folks want an easy ride. You earned your wealth

Think about that folks, as you hammer on OP.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a common misconception in America that just because someone is poor, then that is their fault.

Everyone is under the belief that in this country of ours, EVERYONE who wants to make it CAN.

And those that do not make it, only do not make it due to fault of their own.

That in America, EVERYONE has a shot at the brass ring.

This is the American Myth. It is pure mythology folks.

Why? For the obvious reason. Do the math.

Because theoretically speaking, there are not enough decent jobs in this country for EVERY single person in this country.

It just isn't possible for each and every single American in our country to hold a decent job here. It could never happen. And anyone who says it could is dreaming.

Well, yes, but that is not in contradiction to saying those who work hardest and are smartest are bound to end up better off than those who do not, barring some major bad luck (like being hit by a car crossing the street and turning into a vegetable).

When I was a cild, my family immigrated here with nothing but two suitcases each and less money than it would take to pay a month of rent on a crappy apartment. Knowledge of English at the time varied from very basic to nonexistent. Guess what? Every single one of my family members is currently middle class or upper middle class - the adults worked hard and made the way, the children studied hard (in practical fields) and then worked hard. I also have a number of immigrant friends with similar stories. As far as I and people around me are concerned, the American dream works fine.