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Perhaps something we can all agree on is it's not a good idea for a woman to go with her husband to an Islamic country to begin with.

Sometimes it can't be avoided, sometimes that's where the family or the job is. People are people, there are humans everywhere.

It can always be avoided.

There are jobs everywhere, in countries where a woman does not lose all her rights, including the rights to her children, just by crossing the border.

You have to realize that in an Islamic country, the greatest priority is on preservation of the religion. Individual rights exist, yes, and even for women contrary to the opinions expressed here. But those rights must be in the context of preserving religion first. So when a nonMuslim woman agrees to marry a man, and then chooses to live in an Islamic state, and when her husband dies, generally the state will give custody to the uncle or grandfather who is Muslim to ensure that child is raised as a Muslim. However, thats the Sharia. Remember that the Sharia is more restrictive and narrow in interpreting individual rights than the Quran.

It is inhumane, and any man who would put his wife in that potential situation is not worth marrying and certainly not worth converting to anything over.

Good for that doctor mentioned above for getting his wife and family out of such a horrific situation.

If an Islamic state gives 100% custody to nonMuslims, what would become of the Islam in "Islamic State"? What is more strange to me is why any woman would hate Islam so much that she "would rather die than convert" but yet marry a Muslim man. Luckily she had no kids but what if she did?

It's their MOTHER. Who cares about the Islamic state. Why is it the right of the "state" to give a child to some random male relative, just because of the mother's birth? Those are her children, not the states.

And if the state needs to do this to keep their "Islamic State" then that says a lot about their faith.

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Perhaps something we can all agree on is it's not a good idea for a woman to go with her husband to an Islamic country to begin with.

Sometimes it can't be avoided, sometimes that's where the family or the job is. People are people, there are humans everywhere.

It can always be avoided.

There are jobs everywhere, in countries where a woman does not lose all her rights, including the rights to her children, just by crossing the border.

You have to realize that in an Islamic country, the greatest priority is on preservation of the religion. Individual rights exist, yes, and even for women contrary to the opinions expressed here. But those rights must be in the context of preserving religion first. So when a nonMuslim woman agrees to marry a man, and then chooses to live in an Islamic state, and when her husband dies, generally the state will give custody to the uncle or grandfather who is Muslim to ensure that child is raised as a Muslim. However, thats the Sharia. Remember that the Sharia is more restrictive and narrow in interpreting individual rights than the Quran.

It is inhumane, and any man who would put his wife in that potential situation is not worth marrying and certainly not worth converting to anything over.

Good for that doctor mentioned above for getting his wife and family out of such a horrific situation.

If an Islamic state gives 100% custody to nonMuslims, what would become of the Islam in "Islamic State"? What is more strange to me is why any woman would hate Islam so much that she "would rather die than convert" but yet marry a Muslim man. Luckily she had no kids but what if she did?

It's their MOTHER. Who cares about the Islamic state. Why is it the right of the "state" to give a child to some random male relative, just because of the mother's birth? Those are her children, not the states.

And if the state needs to do this to keep their "Islamic State" then that says a lot about their faith.

Anonymous wrote:As long as we are on the subject of inheritance, a wife with no children inherits one-fourth of her husband's estate, one-eighth if she does have children. In the latter case, the remaining seven eighths is divided among the children, with the boys receiving twice what the girls inherit. If there are no sons, a male relative inherits one half of the remainder (if there is just one daughter) or one-third if there is more than one. In Islam there must always be a male heir.

This in part accounts for why mothers often show such strong preference for sons--if she has a son, only she and her children inherit without interference from her husband's male relatives. Since the mother gets only one-eighth, she relies on her son(s) to support her--and also tends to indulge the boys to make sure they do so. Girls often rely on their brothers for the same reason.

It also helps explain Muslim women's fondness for jewelry gifts. Her jewelry is her property and is often bought and sold for the value of the gold or jewels (very little handicraft markup--the workmanship is pretty much just marketing). It is a store of value--if her husband has bought her a pile of jewelry it is not considered as part of his estate and she can sell it off to augment her inheritance.

This is in the Koran, it is not sharia as one PP keeps saying about various other aspects of Muslim life.

By the way, if the wife dies, her husband inherits one quarter of her property, one half if there are no children.

Islamic inheritance laws explain a lot about Islamic family culture.

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It's their MOTHER. Who cares about the Islamic state. Why is it the right of the "state" to give a child to some random male relative, just because of the mother's birth? Those are her children, not the states.

And if the state needs to do this to keep their "Islamic State" then that says a lot about their faith.

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You have to realize that in an Islamic country, the greatest priority is on preservation of the religion. Individual rights exist, yes, and even for women contrary to the opinions expressed here. But those rights must be in the context of preserving religion first. So when a nonMuslim woman agrees to marry a man, and then chooses to live in an Islamic state, and when her husband dies, generally the state will give custody to the uncle or grandfather who is Muslim to ensure that child is raised as a Muslim. However, thats the Sharia. Remember that the Sharia is more restrictive and narrow in interpreting individual rights than the Quran.

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Perhaps something we can all agree on is it's not a good idea for a woman to go with her husband to an Islamic country to begin with.

Sometimes it can't be avoided, sometimes that's where the family or the job is. People are people, there are humans everywhere.

It can always be avoided.

There are jobs everywhere, in countries where a woman does not lose all her rights, including the rights to her children, just by crossing the border.

You have to realize that in an Islamic country, the greatest priority is on preservation of the religion. Individual rights exist, yes, and even for women contrary to the opinions expressed here. But those rights must be in the context of preserving religion first. So when a nonMuslim woman agrees to marry a man, and then chooses to live in an Islamic state, and when her husband dies, generally the state will give custody to the uncle or grandfather who is Muslim to ensure that child is raised as a Muslim. However, thats the Sharia. Remember that the Sharia is more restrictive and narrow in interpreting individual rights than the Quran.

It is inhumane, and any man who would put his wife in that potential situation is not worth marrying and certainly not worth converting to anything over.

Good for that doctor mentioned above for getting his wife and family out of such a horrific situation.

If an Islamic state gives 100% custody to nonMuslims, what would become of the Islam in "Islamic State"? What is more strange to me is why any woman would hate Islam so much that she "would rather die than convert" but yet marry a Muslim man. Luckily she had no kids but what if she did?

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Anonymous wrote:

Perhaps something we can all agree on is it's not a good idea for a woman to go with her husband to an Islamic country to begin with.

Sometimes it can't be avoided, sometimes that's where the family or the job is. People are people, there are humans everywhere.

It can always be avoided.

There are jobs everywhere, in countries where a woman does not lose all her rights, including the rights to her children, just by crossing the border.

You have to realize that in an Islamic country, the greatest priority is on preservation of the religion. Individual rights exist, yes, and even for women contrary to the opinions expressed here. But those rights must be in the context of preserving religion first. So when a nonMuslim woman agrees to marry a man, and then chooses to live in an Islamic state, and when her husband dies, generally the state will give custody to the uncle or grandfather who is Muslim to ensure that child is raised as a Muslim. However, thats the Sharia. Remember that the Sharia is more restrictive and narrow in interpreting individual rights than the Quran.

It is inhumane, and any man who would put his wife in that potential situation is not worth marrying and certainly not worth converting to anything over.

Good for that doctor mentioned above for getting his wife and family out of such a horrific situation.

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If he loves her and values her as a person, he would never make her choose between her marriage and her possible ability to keep her children, her property and her independence.

I already told you that tricks exist to get around this. Sometimes life turns in unpredictable ways. I'm not advocating moving to an Islamic country, but you're making it sound like it HAS to be the pits, and it doesn't. A clever couple can figure out a safety net for herself and her children if life has turned in this way.

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Perhaps something we can all agree on is it's not a good idea for a woman to go with her husband to an Islamic country to begin with.

Sometimes it can't be avoided, sometimes that's where the family or the job is. People are people, there are humans everywhere.

It can always be avoided.

There are jobs everywhere, in countries where a woman does not lose all her rights, including the rights to her children, just by crossing the border.

You have to realize that in an Islamic country, the greatest priority is on preservation of the religion. Individual rights exist, yes, and even for women contrary to the opinions expressed here. But those rights must be in the context of preserving religion first. So when a nonMuslim woman agrees to marry a man, and then chooses to live in an Islamic state, and when her husband dies, generally the state will give custody to the uncle or grandfather who is Muslim to ensure that child is raised as a Muslim. However, thats the Sharia. Remember that the Sharia is more restrictive and narrow in interpreting individual rights than the Quran.

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Anonymous wrote:

Perhaps something we can all agree on is it's not a good idea for a woman to go with her husband to an Islamic country to begin with.

Sometimes it can't be avoided, sometimes that's where the family or the job is. People are people, there are humans everywhere.

It can always be avoided.

There are jobs everywhere, in countries where a woman does not lose all her rights, including the rights to her children, just by crossing the border.

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Anonymous wrote:

If he loves her and values her as a person, he would never make her choose between her marriage and her possible ability to keep her children, her property and her independence.

I already told you that tricks exist to get around this. Sometimes life turns in unpredictable ways. I'm not advocating moving to an Islamic country, but you're making it sound like it HAS to be the pits, and it doesn't. A clever couple can figure out a safety net for herself and her children if life has turned in this way.

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If he loves her and values her as a person, he would never make her choose between her marriage and her possible ability to keep her children, her property and her independence.