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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that they do teach their kids to be respectful, but they are teenagers. Teenagers do what they want and are frequently stupid. Difference is a white teenager is unlikely to get shot for it.

I'm wondering if there is a dialogue going on in AA homes that is very blunt saying -- we think it's unfair this kid was killed but that's how cops are sometimes, so if you are ever stopped, do exactly what they say. Because the dialogue going on publicly is how terrible this is. It is terrible but the notions about black teen boys aren't going anywhere any time soon -- so why not drill it into their heads how one must act as a black teen? Why not tell them it's unfair but that's how the world is instead of giving them ideas that protesting and demonstrating will change the underlying attitudes. I feel like this should be drilled into their heads the same way you drill in things like seatbelts every time you get in a car.

Yes, drill it into their heads to become complacent and listen to what massa says. Tell them to keep their eyes looking down and move over off the sidewalks when a white person walks by. Oh shit, they tried that and it didn't work then.

It doesn't help to take it to the other extreme either by taking up the entire sidewalk when walking down the street. Or talking loudly and crudely just so you can challenge someone who might look up and you take it the wrong way.

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Anonymous wrote:Because they have a 300 year old chip on their shoulder.

I'm black and agree with you completely.

You lie.

PP could be Clarence Thomas for all you know.

Anonymous wrote:Are you taking responsibility for your white serial killers. What must change in white people to prevent your sons from becoming serial killers. Your attitudes must change, or you will continue to breed your serial killers. After all, you are all the same right? At least that is what you keep telling Black folks.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that they do teach their kids to be respectful, but they are teenagers. Teenagers do what they want and are frequently stupid. Difference is a white teenager is unlikely to get shot for it.

+1

When a black kid is disrespectful it's because he is a thug and gang affiliated. Meanwhile when white guys do it we blame "lacrosse culture"?? I have friends of all races, and they all know that the same behaviors are looked at differently based on skin color.

Agreed. BUT knowing that people will see you as a thug or a gang banger if you are the least bit disrespectful -- why not go out of your way to be as respectful as humanly possible. Yes it's unfair that lacrosse bros don't have to do it, and you do -- but why not go with it because that's the society in which you live.

I guess I just don't get why AAs can't accept -- yes the world is unfair, here's how to survive in it despite that. The dialogue is always -- the world is unfair is, white bros don't have to deal with this. That's true they don't -- but since you as an AA must deal with it, why not find ways to do so??

Why are you assuming this conversation isn't happening? Because all your black friends tell you it isn't?

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Hmmph...
This disgusting diatribe disguised as a discussion serves no true purpose and seeks no genuine understanding; it's merely an opportunistic attempt by the ignorant and antagonistic to attack and undermine and criticize and condemn an entire segment of society for the sole sake of tradition.
Yes, tradition.
There's a reason why the same sad stereotypes and negative perceptions and disparaging conceptions about African-Americans remain prevalent and persistent to this day...why they persist in perpetuating from one generation to the next, and it has nothing to do with the actions or attitudes of the people in question. Believe it or not, blacks don't own the copyright on criminal activity nor do they exemplify the essence of violence or decadence as so many so adamantly insist. Quite the contrary, humanity as a whole is guilty of those distinctions not just blacks. Every race every religion every culture and every community across the face of this Earth is all too familiar with war and hostility and delinquency and villainy, but the reason that African-Americans remain renowned as the poster children for such savage behavior is simply because it's traditionally accepted as fact whereas with every other people on the planet it's conveniently customarily downplayed or excused somehow or outright ignored altogether.
So ironic...so sad...
While the customs and traditions of the original enslaved Africans were wiped out altogether the customs and traditions imposed on them by their slavemasters remain resounding and resilient to this day.
Sigh.
Have your fun folks.
State your supposed facts and support them with your shallow observations.
Continue that proud tradition of solely casting people of color in the role of the sinister and reprehensible.
Perhaps your insistent efforts can keep these sick twisted perceptions going for another few hundred years.

PP, yes it does. It's time to stop pointing the finger at White America as the sole source of the problem and accepting that the AA community has work to do. They DO need to change some of their attitudes and behavior. Bill Cosby (just one example) has been saying this publicly for years.

Also, no one on here has suggested that AAs are the only people on the planet associated with violence, or that everyone else's bad behavior is explained away. On this thread, for example, is a discussion of white serial killers. Who is excusing that? The news is full of uprisings in the Middle East. Who is excusing that?

And to your last point: Most white people living in America today are NOT descended from slaveowners. Most of us are descended from subsequent waves of immigration, some to escape persecution and starvation. These immigrants were dirt-poor and never owned slaves, so your suggestion that we whites are mired in some tradition of treating AAs a certain way from the olden days is ridiculous and insulting.

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Anonymous wrote:i think that many AA people teach their children to distrust and dislike whites because they think we are all potentially racists. What I find amusing about this is that they are ignoring the many other non-AA people in our country who are just as likely to be prejudiced against them.

When the AAs become the true minority numbers-wise and have no allies on any side due to years of holding themselves out as the main victim minority, THEN they will really have something to worry about.

Actually, other racial ethnic groups, especially immigrants, know that blacks are the most stigmatized group in the US and they know they can climb the ladder by also distancing themselves from blacks. Check out the book "How the Irish Became White," a scholarly book showing how the Irish were once sympathetic to the anti-slavery cause back when they were considered a separate inferior race by the English. But when the Irish immigrated to the United States they realized they could rise socially by becoming "white" and identifying with the white Anglo-Saxon Protestants who ruled the country.

Seriously, if you want the dominant group to accept you, the last thing you would do is be friendly to the group they dislike the most.

This is what Asian immigrants do too! Look down on AAs and rise by quickly assimilating with the dominant white majority.

Why aspire to be 2nd best?

Do one better and marry into the white bloodline.

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Anonymous wrote:I will say I was more sympathetic to the Michael Brown case before it came out that he stole. Yes -- I realize it's unconnected to him being stopped and no I don't believe that the punishment for stealing $40 worth of cigars is being shot. It just demonstrates a thug like manner of living that I just can't be that sympathetic to -- I mean this isn't a case of the kid stealing food to feed his family but cigars --bc he thought it was his right to walk in there and take whatever he wanted.

This makes no sense. You are still saying he deserved to be shot. Just like Trayvon deserved to be shot because he smoked pot, right?

No I'm not saying he deserved to be shot. The punishment for stealing $40 of goods should not be capital punishment. BUT the fact that he did steal makes me less sympathetic to him. The cops saw him as a thug and shot him. Guess what -- he WAS a thug as evidenced by the fact that he had stolen 10 min prior. How are cops supposed to distinguish the good from the bad when so many black men are out there acting like thugs?? Maybe the cop didn't want to risk his life by giving this guy the benefit of the doubt that he was unarmed. Maybe the fact that he didn't listen to instructions and had cigars in his hand was enough for that cop not to want to take that chance. Over zealous policing but honestly given the thug like culture that the majority of AAs subscribe to, these kinds of "mistakes" are going to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:i think that many AA people teach their children to distrust and dislike whites because they think we are all potentially racists. What I find amusing about this is that they are ignoring the many other non-AA people in our country who are just as likely to be prejudiced against them.

When the AAs become the true minority numbers-wise and have no allies on any side due to years of holding themselves out as the main victim minority, THEN they will really have something to worry about.

Actually, other racial ethnic groups, especially immigrants, know that blacks are the most stigmatized group in the US and they know they can climb the ladder by also distancing themselves from blacks. Check out the book "How the Irish Became White," a scholarly book showing how the Irish were once sympathetic to the anti-slavery cause back when they were considered a separate inferior race by the English. But when the Irish immigrated to the United States they realized they could rise socially by becoming "white" and identifying with the white Anglo-Saxon Protestants who ruled the country.

Seriously, if you want the dominant group to accept you, the last thing you would do is be friendly to the group they dislike the most.

This is what Asian immigrants do too! Look down on AAs and rise by quickly assimilating with the dominant white majority.

Why aspire to be 2nd best?

Anonymous wrote:No one lumps all black people together in one group. WTF??

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Anonymous wrote:i think that many AA people teach their children to distrust and dislike whites because they think we are all potentially racists. What I find amusing about this is that they are ignoring the many other non-AA people in our country who are just as likely to be prejudiced against them.

When the AAs become the true minority numbers-wise and have no allies on any side due to years of holding themselves out as the main victim minority, THEN they will really have something to worry about.

Actually, other racial ethnic groups, especially immigrants, know that blacks are the most stigmatized group in the US and they know they can climb the ladder by also distancing themselves from blacks. Check out the book "How the Irish Became White," a scholarly book showing how the Irish were once sympathetic to the anti-slavery cause back when they were considered a separate inferior race by the English. But when the Irish immigrated to the United States they realized they could rise socially by becoming "white" and identifying with the white Anglo-Saxon Protestants who ruled the country.

Seriously, if you want the dominant group to accept you, the last thing you would do is be friendly to the group they dislike the most.

This is what Asian immigrants do too! Look down on AAs and rise by quickly assimilating with the dominant white majority.

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If everyone stopped being racist what do you think would change about AA behavior?

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REALLLYYY???
People change their BEHAVIOUR and style of dress because they are trying to save their lives!!!!!!
People are tooo damn lazy to realize that not all black or brown people are the same.
So black men often are forced to cater to the twisted logic and assumptions of the lazy mind that cannot tell the difference between a mugger and an MBA because they both have black skin.
Forget you!
If Mark Zuckerberg can wear a hoodie and jeans then my damn husband can too!!!!
Since when did the idea that criminals are the only ones who can wear certain things?!!!!
I guess white men can't wear a mustache because Hitler had one.
I guess white women can't name your white little boys Bernie because folks will assume they will be white collar fraudulent con men criminals.
I guess all the women with vaginas better put those away because the lady around the corner has one and she got raped last week.
Guess white boys cannot be named George and go to UVA and play lacrosse, unless he is a woman beating girlfriend murderer!!
You can go straight to a burning pit of Hades for even suggesting that honest, decent black people have to further minimize themselves, dishonor their own feelings, smile when they don't want to, dress a certain way, step out of their own f$$$$&& selves to make you feel comfortable enough to not assume he is not a nigger.

This reminds me of the white teenagers who have tattoos all over their bodies, half shaved heads and piercings, and get mad at people for "staring" at them. Well, what did you expect if you make yourself look like that? If you choose to dress that way, you will pay the price--people will tare and think ill of you.

If you choose to dress in clothing associated with thugs, people will fear you. If you don't want this reaction. DON'T DRESS THIS WAY.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.

Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.

I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.

I think African immigrants would be more likely to want to distinguish themselves from the stereotypical black person thug image.

My students from African nations will NOT associate with black peers. It's quite a scene when you cruise through the cafeteria. some of their feelings regarding our black Americans? ouch

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter how many talks you have with your black sons, his cellphone will always be mistaken for a gun. Hell his fingers will be mistaken for guns, his presence will always be considered a "danger" so what do you do. Signed a woman who learned that she was black when she came to America 13 years ago.