Thanks, the place we're looking at is very close to 615.

If you'd be willing to give a little more detail, do you know if it's always the same crowd of guys, or is there a lot of turnover? Do they ever harass people walking down the streets or move their gathering onto the sidewalk?

If so, why have neighbors not pestered the cops until they just decide to leave? I've been living in another part of the Hill for 4 years and have never seen anything like that going on day-in, day-out, much less next to a school.

The shooting happened on the 7th street side of Morris PL.
On the 6th street side-at the very corner - there is a house that sold for ~1.3 mil a few years ago to a nice middle aged couple who keeps a nice garden. The street is very short, yet you have these two extremes. I would not be scared by the shooting as it was a one off, and just as likely to happen anywhere else on the Hill.

Also, the guys hanging out in front of 615 (more towards 6th street) are generally benigh, although often drunk/stoned/loud. Other than that, they are generally good neighbors, for example, they plow the sidewalk in the winter for the nearby houses if they get a chance to help.

Bringing up an old thread: does anyone have an update on the house on Morris with loitering, dice, drinking on the stoop, etc? My family and I are thinking about purchasing a place on that street. I drove down the street earlier today and noticed a bunch of guys on the stoop -- didn't really bother me then, but that was before I read about the homicide on Morris or the reputation of the house.

If possible could you mention its specific address, or at least range on the street?

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Anonymous wrote:I think you are being too dismissive. Children talk and they will definitely remember hearing of an event like this very close to their school. My DC still talks about suspicious package lockdowns and the earthquake evacuation.

My daughter has attended LT for three years, & before that spent two years at a Bright Horizons center downtown, and I've lost count of the lockdowns she's been through -- I want to say three at LT and two at BH, but I might be forgetting one.

The only one that actually made me nervous was for a suspicious package near the BH center; it went on for several hours while authorities dealt with the package, and in the meantime all the kids had evacuate their usual rooms and be all the way at the other end of the building.

It's DC post-9/11; we have lockdowns. They're less scary to her than under-the-desk bomb drills were to earlier generations.

I was not attempting to equate a man being shot and killed outside LT with the inconconveniences associated with a lock down, whether due to a unattended bag or so,etching far more serious. Neither of my children were even aware of the events at the Navy Yard, despite our school being on lockdown, and I doubt your two or three year old was too concerned about having to play or nap in a different room at Bright Horizons. A shooting while kids are on the playground which forces them to be herded into the school for their own safety is a different matter entirely. This can have a profound impact on some children, especially if they learn that the gunshots led to a death.

Anonymous wrote:I think you are being too dismissive. Children talk and they will definitely remember hearing of an event like this very close to their school. My DC still talks about suspicious package lockdowns and the earthquake evacuation.

My daughter has attended LT for three years, & before that spent two years at a Bright Horizons center downtown, and I've lost count of the lockdowns she's been through -- I want to say three at LT and two at BH, but I might be forgetting one.

The only one that actually made me nervous was for a suspicious package near the BH center; it went on for several hours while authorities dealt with the package, and in the meantime all the kids had evacuate their usual rooms and be all the way at the other end of the building.

It's DC post-9/11; we have lockdowns. They're less scary to her than under-the-desk bomb drills were to earlier generations.

I think you are being too dismissive. Children talk and they will definitely remember hearing of an event like this very close to their school. My DC still talks about suspicious package lockdowns and the earthquake evacuation.

There's crime in a gentrifying neighborhood, nobody will remember the incident a year hence.

Not so sure about the Principal Cobbs effect. Far too many neighborhood parents have bailed after one or more years of hard work on the PTA. Any chance that she's burnng out and seeking greener pastures in 2015? Please, God.

Anonymous wrote:Any more updates on the house in question or the shooting?

At the community meeting at the school MPD indicated that they are aware of the house. The Commander indicated that they can't just walk in there and kick everyone out but that they are monitoring activities and it will take time for any more substantive changes. I haven't seen many people hanging around at that house in the past few weeks. Not sure if that is temporary or if they got the point that they need to hang out elsewhere. Many of us in the neighborhood have said to one another that we will be less tolerant of minor illegal activity (drinking on sidewalks, gambling) and will call 911 for these types of activities. There has definitely been an increase in MPDs visibility in the neighborhood since this happened. Hopefully that continues indefinitely. DCPS is putting together a report on changes to school security and we have been told that it will be shared with all the parents.

It is awful that this happened so close to the school. Hopefully this doesn't negatively impact LTs upward trajectory as a true neighborhood school. It isn't one yet but some of us are trying to make it one!

Any more updates on the house in question or the shooting?

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Anonymous wrote:I am not suggesting that anyone should avoid the H Street corridor. I am just not as willing to blithely dismiss serious issues as you seem to be. It's not simply a matter of one senseless murder which occurred two years ago. I am happy that the area is continuing to be less "transitional" but recent events show there is still a long way to go.

I agree. I spend time on H street and give local businesses support. However these are serious issues. I am not going to over pay for a home in an area where street crime is still a large presence. I actually find it mind boggling that people with small children would spend so much money on a home in Stanton Park.

You're a moron. There is no "Stanton Park" neighborhood. If someone were to say that they live in Stanton Park, that would mean they sleep on playground equipment. It is not a neighborhood. The Hill Historic District goes up to F and over to 12th NE.

You might want to take a look at this DC Government map from 1979. Just saying'.

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/image.cgi?src=201405/distressedlarge.jpg&ref=22824

This is a bit of an overreaction. I live on the Hill. I have heard plenty of people, when asked the standard Hill question "Where do you live?", answer "Stanton Park." Sure, it isn't a separate neighborhood, but it lets people, who all live on the Hill so need more information about where on the Hill you live, know what landmark/area of the Hill you live in. I usually answer that question "Lincoln Park," not because I sleep on the playground equipment, but because that is the closest landmark to my house. People who live on the Hill would understand what the person means with a statement like this.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not suggesting that anyone should avoid the H Street corridor. I am just not as willing to blithely dismiss serious issues as you seem to be. It's not simply a matter of one senseless murder which occurred two years ago. I am happy that the area is continuing to be less "transitional" but recent events show there is still a long way to go.

I agree. I spend time on H street and give local businesses support. However these are serious issues. I am not going to over pay for a home in an area where street crime is still a large presence. I actually find it mind boggling that people with small children would spend so much money on a home in Stanton Park.

You're a moron. There is no "Stanton Park" neighborhood. If someone were to say that they live in Stanton Park, that would mean they sleep on playground equipment. It is not a neighborhood. The Hill Historic District goes up to F and over to 12th NE.

You might want to take a look at this DC Government map from 1979. Just saying'.

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/image.cgi?src=201405/distressedlarge.jpg&ref=22824

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw a stat on that said there are 28 homeless children currently enrolled at LT.

I feel like an asshole for even having the thought (so, ergo I go voice it on DCUM like an even bigger asshole) but this feels high. Is there a shelter in-bounds for LT? Perhaps I'm a sheltered jerk for not realizing how prevalent homelessness can be, but that's 12% of the student enrollment! Is it possible MD residents are gaming the system this way?

where did you see that stat?

According to the below, it's more like 10%. But I think this stat is conservative. It got brought up on the Peabody Dump the Cluster DCUM discussion.

http://www.dc-aya.org/sites/default/files/content/...t%20Enrollment%20in%20DCPS.pdf

The above report is dated. My understanding is that the below is more current.

http://greatergreatereducation.org/post/22740/where-do-dc-homeless-students-go-to-school-these-tween-hackers-can-show-you/

So what's up with the flop-house? Are the police cleaning the place up or is it dice as usual and evening cocktails on the school grounds or on the stoop?

Anonymous wrote:How is that accidental?

NP. Do you not know what accidental means? I don't understand the apparent confusion surrounding the use of that term. She saw her by chance; it was not intended, i.e., it was accidental.

How is that accidental?