How do Gen have none? I think you meant one- they have the choice to attend their neighbor hood school- or not.

LLIV is not that same as Center for most schools as most schools do not have enough AAP to support a whole class. To get the same experience as a Center school, you need at least enough for one class - otherwise it is pullouts or push in- which are much less in scope are more of "add ons". If you have an entire class, then the teacher teaches at the AAP level and the pace is faster and more in depth- which is the point of having an AAP class.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK so why do you think the parent who wants to pupil place there student out of a combined GE/AAP center school shouldn't have that right?

The parent has that right (as already posted on page 1 of this thread).

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/372242.page#4891392

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Show me how "not being in the same building as AAP students" is a legitimate educational need and I'll fight for GE students' right to transfer.

While we're at it, show us how a student already at a LLIV school needs to be bused to a center school for the exact.same.education.

Anonymous wrote:OK so why do you think the parent who wants to pupil place there student out of a combined GE/AAP center school shouldn't have that right? I read a lot of "that is ridiculous", "it has to be the parents issue", "couldn't possibly bother the child", etc... but, AAP parent(s), why do you think it is so bad, impossible, hard to imagine that a child might have a hard time being in GE at an AAP center school? And, why do you think this parent doesn't have the right to pupil place her child to a non-center school?

I don't get it!

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And for all the "why are you worried about someone else's kid" nonsense, the irony here is rich. What difference could it possibly make to these AAP parents if GE children transfer out of the center to a different neighborhood school? What about this situation rankles them when their own children are being provided free busing to a different school for no discernable reason? Such hypocrisy and entitlement.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I am so sorry you've had to spend your evening digging up these links. You might have a bit too much time on your hands...

Waiting for water to boil on the stove - DCUM is a nice distraction

Don't defend yourself. Someone suggesting that the person they're replying to has "too much time on their hands" is an overt admission that they don't have an answer. Oldest trick in the internet-argument book.

Next up: "I feel sorry for your children."

Yes, the "you must have too must time on your hands" retort was last used when no one could come up with an actual, real, truthful answer as to why kids have the option of being bused from LLIV schools to the center. And the old "I feel sorry for your children" line has also been used when suggesting that parents who are unhappy with their Gen Ed child having to attend a center school must surely be passing on "insecurity" to their children. As if this topic is ever discussed with our children.

So you won't accept the answer "because LLIV does not, in fact, provide the same services" because..? You don't like it?

Because what? I still don't see an answer, unless you're referring to the inane "peer group is not the same" response. That one is not only insulting, it is simply dishonest and self-serving. Why should an AAP child be given two choices regarding where to be educated, both of them exactly the same, and the GE child none?

Anonymous wrote:OK so why do you think the parent who wants to pupil place there student out of a combined GE/AAP center school shouldn't have that right? I read a lot of "that is ridiculous", "it has to be the parents issue", "couldn't possibly bother the child", etc... but, AAP parent(s), why do you think it is so bad, impossible, hard to imagine that a child might have a hard time being in GE at an AAP center school? And, why do you think this parent doesn't have the right to pupil place her child to a non-center school?

I don't get it!

Because busing kids so they don't have to be around a certain kind of student is crazy. And no, don't tell me that AAP kids are doing the same thing -- they're trying to pursue an education, not avoid a group of people. Sheesh.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK so why do you think the parent who wants to pupil place there student out of a combined GE/AAP center school shouldn't have that right?

The parent has that right (as already posted on page 1 of this thread).

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/372242.page#4891392

+1

Show me how "not being in the same building as AAP students" is a legitimate educational need and I'll fight for GE students' right to transfer.

Anonymous wrote:OK so why do you think the parent who wants to pupil place there student out of a combined GE/AAP center school shouldn't have that right?

The parent has that right (as already posted on page 1 of this thread).

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/372242.page#4891392

OK so why do you think the parent who wants to pupil place there student out of a combined GE/AAP center school shouldn't have that right? I read a lot of "that is ridiculous", "it has to be the parents issue", "couldn't possibly bother the child", etc... but, AAP parent(s), why do you think it is so bad, impossible, hard to imagine that a child might have a hard time being in GE at an AAP center school? And, why do you think this parent doesn't have the right to pupil place her child to a non-center school?

I don't get it!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I am so sorry you've had to spend your evening digging up these links. You might have a bit too much time on your hands...

Waiting for water to boil on the stove - DCUM is a nice distraction

Don't defend yourself. Someone suggesting that the person they're replying to has "too much time on their hands" is an overt admission that they don't have an answer. Oldest trick in the internet-argument book.

Next up: "I feel sorry for your children."

Yes, the "you must have too must time on your hands" retort was last used when no one could come up with an actual, real, truthful answer as to why kids have the option of being bused from LLIV schools to the center. And the old "I feel sorry for your children" line has also been used when suggesting that parents who are unhappy with their Gen Ed child having to attend a center school must surely be passing on "insecurity" to their children. As if this topic is ever discussed with our children.

Ah, yes. Another day, another chance to bitch and moan on an anonymous Internet forum about other people's kids.

I take your point. That couldn't possibly be a waste of time. I mean, look at the big difference it's made!

I know, right? Here you are again! Thanks for supplying another tired old trope: that people with valid concerns about educational equity are "bitching and moaning" about other people's kids! Forgot about that one. Also, just to save you the effort, remember to use "sour grapes and bitter" in your next meaningless response. I wouldn't want you to forget your best lines!

Hit the reset button, then. Remind us what you've accomplished to influence the debate on these topics in a forum that actually matters.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I am so sorry you've had to spend your evening digging up these links. You might have a bit too much time on your hands...

Waiting for water to boil on the stove - DCUM is a nice distraction

Don't defend yourself. Someone suggesting that the person they're replying to has "too much time on their hands" is an overt admission that they don't have an answer. Oldest trick in the internet-argument book.

Next up: "I feel sorry for your children."

Yes, the "you must have too must time on your hands" retort was last used when no one could come up with an actual, real, truthful answer as to why kids have the option of being bused from LLIV schools to the center. And the old "I feel sorry for your children" line has also been used when suggesting that parents who are unhappy with their Gen Ed child having to attend a center school must surely be passing on "insecurity" to their children. As if this topic is ever discussed with our children.

So you won't accept the answer "because LLIV does not, in fact, provide the same services" because..? You don't like it?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I am so sorry you've had to spend your evening digging up these links. You might have a bit too much time on your hands...

Waiting for water to boil on the stove - DCUM is a nice distraction

Don't defend yourself. Someone suggesting that the person they're replying to has "too much time on their hands" is an overt admission that they don't have an answer. Oldest trick in the internet-argument book.

Next up: "I feel sorry for your children."

Yes, the "you must have too must time on your hands" retort was last used when no one could come up with an actual, real, truthful answer as to why kids have the option of being bused from LLIV schools to the center. And the old "I feel sorry for your children" line has also been used when suggesting that parents who are unhappy with their Gen Ed child having to attend a center school must surely be passing on "insecurity" to their children. As if this topic is ever discussed with our children.

Ah, yes. Another day, another chance to bitch and moan on an anonymous Internet forum about other people's kids.

I take your point. That couldn't possibly be a waste of time. I mean, look at the big difference it's made!

I know, right? Here you are again! Thanks for supplying another tired old trope: that people with valid concerns about educational equity are "bitching and moaning" about other people's kids! Forgot about that one. Also, just to save you the effort, remember to use "sour grapes and bitter" in your next meaningless response. I wouldn't want you to forget your best lines!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I am so sorry you've had to spend your evening digging up these links. You might have a bit too much time on your hands...

Waiting for water to boil on the stove - DCUM is a nice distraction

Don't defend yourself. Someone suggesting that the person they're replying to has "too much time on their hands" is an overt admission that they don't have an answer. Oldest trick in the internet-argument book.

Next up: "I feel sorry for your children."

Yes, the "you must have too must time on your hands" retort was last used when no one could come up with an actual, real, truthful answer as to why kids have the option of being bused from LLIV schools to the center. And the old "I feel sorry for your children" line has also been used when suggesting that parents who are unhappy with their Gen Ed child having to attend a center school must surely be passing on "insecurity" to their children. As if this topic is ever discussed with our children.

Ah, yes. Another day, another chance to bitch and moan on an anonymous Internet forum about other people's kids.

I take your point. That couldn't possibly be a waste of time. I mean, look at the big difference it's made!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I am so sorry you've had to spend your evening digging up these links. You might have a bit too much time on your hands...

Waiting for water to boil on the stove - DCUM is a nice distraction

Don't defend yourself. Someone suggesting that the person they're replying to has "too much time on their hands" is an overt admission that they don't have an answer. Oldest trick in the internet-argument book.

Next up: "I feel sorry for your children."

Yes, the "you must have too must time on your hands" retort was last used when no one could come up with an actual, real, truthful answer as to why kids have the option of being bused from LLIV schools to the center. And the old "I feel sorry for your children" line has also been used when suggesting that parents who are unhappy with their Gen Ed child having to attend a center school must surely be passing on "insecurity" to their children. As if this topic is ever discussed with our children.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I am so sorry you've had to spend your evening digging up these links. You might have a bit too much time on your hands...

Waiting for water to boil on the stove - DCUM is a nice distraction

Don't defend yourself. Someone suggesting that the person they're replying to has "too much time on their hands" is an overt admission that they don't have an answer. Oldest trick in the internet-argument book.

Next up: "I feel sorry for your children."

Anonymous wrote:
I am so sorry you've had to spend your evening digging up these links. You might have a bit too much time on your hands...

Waiting for water to boil on the stove - DCUM is a nice distraction