Anonymous
Post 12/21/2013 23:23     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
Have you read the one about Apollo being born from the head of Zeus?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2013 21:47     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mary was Jewish and she was married. In a Jewish marriage ceremony you immediately go to a room where the marriage is consummated. She was not a virgin.


Cuckoo bird.


Right, because it's much more reasonable to believe a married woman retained her virginity and then gave birth to multiple children.......


Not to take a side on the virgin birth thing, but you just didn't bother reading the story:

Matthew 1: 18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about[d]: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. 19 Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet[e] did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2013 18:45     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mary was Jewish and she was married. In a Jewish marriage ceremony you immediately go to a room where the marriage is consummated. She was not a virgin.


Cuckoo bird.


Right, because it's much more reasonable to believe a married woman retained her virginity and then gave birth to multiple children.......
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2013 18:43     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mary was Jewish and she was married. In a Jewish marriage ceremony you immediately go to a room where the marriage is consummated. She was not a virgin.


This doesn't say immediately:
http://www.bible.ca/marriage/ancient-jewish-three-stage-weddings-and-marriage-customs-ceremony-in-the-bible.htm

Stage 1: signing the "ketubbah" contract (Creating the marriage bond)
i. The bride would chose her husband and her father would sign a legal contract with him called a "ketubbah".
ii. Once this is signed the couple is 100% married but do not have sex yet.
iii. Young children were often married, (arraigned marriage) but did not consummate until of age.
Stage 2: The "chuppah": sexual consummation.
i. Up to 7 years later, the groom is able to raise the money as set out in the ketubbah contract and notifies the father of the bride, who then sets a date to consummate the marriage at the bride's home.
ii. The bride waits with her maidens, for the arrival of the groom and his companions.
iii. The couple enters the chuppah room and consummates the marriage while the companions of the bride and groom wait and celebrate outside or in the next room.
iv. The groom hands the bloodied "proof of virginity cloth" to the witnesses chosen by the bride's parents, who then give it to the bride for safekeeping.
Stage 3: The wedding feast
i. After consummation, the entire wedding party walks to the house of the groom in a procession for a wedding feast.
ii. At the conclusion of the wedding feast, the couple has completed the ancient ritual of marriage.


You might want to look at a Jewish source for these types of things. http://www.aish.com/jl/l/m/48969841.html?tab=y
The yichud room is where the consummation takes place right after the ceremony.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2013 18:42     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mary was Jewish and she was married. In a Jewish marriage ceremony you immediately go to a room where the marriage is consummated. She was not a virgin.


Cuckoo bird.

Ignorant fool
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2013 17:40     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
Anonymous wrote:OMG, y'all "well educated" bitches are soo stupid.

What else is new?


Did they let you out of county for Christmas?

Your mama must be so happy.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2013 16:46     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
OMG, y'all "well educated" bitches are soo stupid.

What else is new?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2013 16:44     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
Anonymous wrote:Mary was Jewish and she was married. In a Jewish marriage ceremony you immediately go to a room where the marriage is consummated. She was not a virgin.


Cuckoo bird.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2013 15:52     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
Anonymous wrote:Mary was Jewish and she was married. In a Jewish marriage ceremony you immediately go to a room where the marriage is consummated. She was not a virgin.


This doesn't say immediately:
http://www.bible.ca/marriage/ancient-jewish-three-stage-weddings-and-marriage-customs-ceremony-in-the-bible.htm

Stage 1: signing the "ketubbah" contract (Creating the marriage bond)
i. The bride would chose her husband and her father would sign a legal contract with him called a "ketubbah".
ii. Once this is signed the couple is 100% married but do not have sex yet.
iii. Young children were often married, (arraigned marriage) but did not consummate until of age.
Stage 2: The "chuppah": sexual consummation.
i. Up to 7 years later, the groom is able to raise the money as set out in the ketubbah contract and notifies the father of the bride, who then sets a date to consummate the marriage at the bride's home.
ii. The bride waits with her maidens, for the arrival of the groom and his companions.
iii. The couple enters the chuppah room and consummates the marriage while the companions of the bride and groom wait and celebrate outside or in the next room.
iv. The groom hands the bloodied "proof of virginity cloth" to the witnesses chosen by the bride's parents, who then give it to the bride for safekeeping.
Stage 3: The wedding feast
i. After consummation, the entire wedding party walks to the house of the groom in a procession for a wedding feast.
ii. At the conclusion of the wedding feast, the couple has completed the ancient ritual of marriage.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2013 12:14     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
Mary was Jewish and she was married. In a Jewish marriage ceremony you immediately go to a room where the marriage is consummated. She was not a virgin.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2013 11:20     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
I think it is a catholic teaching that Mary remained a virgin.
Being a virgin is not the issue. A woman is not less of a woman if she is one or is not. Just a scam men invented
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2013 09:26     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
Personally, I don't believe Mary was a virgin, but that's not my main concern.

What I question is the omission of certain biblical texts by the council. For example, I read that references to reincarnation were removed. Books on other prophets were destroyed. The many Christian sects were forced to come together as a form of control.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2013 10:51     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, to go along with 22:04 & 22:39, I would not assume everyone who identifies as Christian wholeheartedly accepts every word of Christian doctrine. Some denominations discourage skepticism, while others happily engage with it. Some people belong to a church for social, cultural, or other reasons that are more important to them than the specifics of doctrine. I'd wager just about every individual who identifies as Christian "really believes" something different.


22:04 again. This is part of the difficulty with the term "Christian." The fundamentalist right co-opted the term and some members of the fundamentalist left seem unable to see nuance when it comes to "Christians."
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2013 09:52     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
Anonymous wrote:No, she was not and I know that as a fact, because my mother was a virgin.


You don't know. Maybe you're the Second Coming.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2013 09:50     Subject: Do Christians really believe Mary was a virgin?
No, she was not and I know that as a fact, because my mother was a virgin.