Feel free to spearhead that discussion. We definitely need more capacity, particularly in the Tysons area where FCPS and the county will continue to lowball the projected numbers for new students until our kids are being taught in parking lots.

As for boundary changes....agree they would ease some of the overcrowding at some schools and are probably inevitable eventually given the growth in this area, but if you think it got ugly during the recent AAP adjustments, that will be nothing compared to when they start redistricting neighborhoods.

The base schools are also overcrowded. Instead of beating each other up, why aren't we turning our attention to FCPS and demanding more capacity in the area? Maybe they need to open new schools or do some boundary changes.

PP here. The option is to go to the new centers that FCPS is opening, or in the case of 4th graders and up, to decide if the other options like Colvin Run work for you. Otherwise, most of these older children can stay at their base school since many of them have been there for 4 years already. It's not a perfect option, but at the risk of sounding harsh, for a minority of AAP parents to expect the other 80 percent of a public school system to jump through hoops to ensure that the porridge is just right for their little darlings is ridiculous.

What's the option, PP? There isn't space at any of the schools. Most of the area schools are over capacity.

It's not just the town's opposition to trailers. It's a safety and even comfort issue of filtering all those kids to and from Louise Archer and through tiny hallways to get around the what was never that big of a school. Unless you just want to have all the kids eat lunch and have art, P.E. and maybe pretend recess in their classrooms. Though I'm sure some posters on here would suggest no sacrifice is to small to ensure their child gets the advanced curriculum they "need." Who cares how it affects other students or the neighborhood around it. Wake up and move on people! There's a reason the school board made the decision to reduce the number of new kids coming into LA and Haycock from other schools.

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When I go to the school, there is barely room in the classrooms...the rooms are small and full of kids. They teach in the hallways.

And the Town wants the trailers out....

I have never really understood what all the issues are with trailers and other low cost expansion options.

Why not just replace the trailers in back of LA with another quad adding 2 or more new classrooms in the process?

Churchill Road did something similar many years ago. They have a ten classroom "wing" that is made of "temporary trailers".

When I go to the school, there is barely room in the classrooms...the rooms are small and full of kids. They teach in the hallways.

And the Town wants the trailers out....

I have never really understood what all the issues are with trailers and other low cost expansion options.

Why not just replace the trailers in back of LA with another quad adding 2 or more new classrooms in the process?

PP: There is a flip side: drivers waiting to pick up at Archer that block traffic. I think a solution is to have right turn only into the school. The pickup line goes up nutley then west on Orchard. That way it will not block traffic.

There is a traffic problem from about 3:50 to 4:10 at Archer. The fundamental problem is that the school has more children than its infrastructure can handle

Anonymous wrote:10:16 The mayor herself lives in NW, so I think it's a little off to say that the town doesn't care for that side. The local high school is also located there. They probably are concerned about overcrowding of roads due to the high school and Louise Archer. There are more stop signs in that area than I think any other quadrant. That quadrant doesn't have sidewalks along Windover because the residents didn't want it. It was and still is #1 or #2 on the town's sidewalk priority list.

If they're concerned about overcrowding of roads, they can get the police out there to ticket the people who cross the yellow lines on Nutley directly in front of Archer and drive around cars waiting in line to turn into the Archer parking lot for dropoff and pickup. I have seen it done repeatedly. The police did provide officers to act as crossing guards at Nutley and Knoll, which is great, and much needed because drivers used to (as in, up to a few months ago) blow through the stop sign and clearly marked crosswalk there as well. But the crossing guard officer can't see when people are zipping around cars that are waiting in traffic ahead of them at the school's entrance down the block, and he couldn't stop what he's doing to ticket them if he did see. If the town is worried about the roads around Archer and Madison, it should start by doing some enforcement drives to nail the dangerous drivers who decide their rush to work is worth crossing lines and going around cars.

Madison is not in the town, true. It is adjacent to the town. The traffic from Madison impacts the town, and most of the HS students from the town go to madison.

Anonymous wrote:10:16 The mayor herself lives in NW, so I think it's a little off to say that the town doesn't care for that side. The local high school is also located there. They probably are concerned about overcrowding of roads due to the high school and Louise Archer. There are more stop signs in that area than I think any other quadrant. That quadrant doesn't have sidewalks along Windover because the residents didn't want it. It was and still is #1 or #2 on the town's sidewalk priority list.

Madison isn't in the town of Vienna, but it is close to Archer.

Anonymous wrote:10:16 The mayor herself lives in NW, so I think it's a little off to say that the town doesn't care for that side. The local high school is also located there. They probably are concerned about overcrowding of roads due to the high school and Louise Archer. There are more stop signs in that area than I think any other quadrant. That quadrant doesn't have sidewalks along Windover because the residents didn't want it. It was and still is #1 or #2 on the town's sidewalk priority list.

In addition, about 1/3 of the town council have kids that go or went to louise archer. The town cares. They want the county to properly invest in a long term solution rather than endorsing the multiple short term band aides.

Anonymous wrote:So the cluster 2 kids were sacrificed so that cluster 1 could get everything it wanted.

Seriously? The whiny contingent needs to decide what its message is:

- permanently scarred victims who were viciously thrown under the bus at the hands of vicious Cluster 1 parents, or

- fortunate parents lucky enough to send their kids to new classrooms in an expanded Lemon Road that will have two AAP classes per grade and smaller class sizes than Haycock.

Because this "you totally and completely screwed us over but we miraculously came out on top" stuff doesn't quite cut it. Lots of people told you it would work out fine, and there are plenty of people at LA now wishing FCPS had done more to relieve the overcrowding there.

10:16 The mayor herself lives in NW, so I think it's a little off to say that the town doesn't care for that side. The local high school is also located there. They probably are concerned about overcrowding of roads due to the high school and Louise Archer. There are more stop signs in that area than I think any other quadrant. That quadrant doesn't have sidewalks along Windover because the residents didn't want it. It was and still is #1 or #2 on the town's sidewalk priority list.

There were about 90 kids moved away from Haycock. 17 are now being brought in because they are newly found eligible. At least 5 are moving back into Haycock base area, so this means a net of 68 kids plus the rising cluster two third graders have been moved away - total of about 120 students.

Haycock has already seen a jump in expected enrollment for next Fall....

Question - will the students who were sent to Churchill Road without transportation during last school year be able to enroll at Haycock next Fall? If so, that will further elevate their numbers. The 17 they are mentioning is just for this year's round of AAP decisions.