Anonymous
03/25/2013 10:43
Subject: Furlough letter - Explicit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes we will see furloughs and yes our paychecks will get cut. But after they fix this crap and we all suffer over the loss of our pay, congress and the White House will agree to back pay all of the days we have lost.
It has happened years ago and it will happen again. There is a precedence for this.
The main thing that we as public servants need to understand is that we can never again trust our paychecks will arrive on time or without any cuts. Instead we need to keep an emergency fund for such things. I have one that I have been saving for some possible medical issues with a child. I will dip into it and refund it when the govt. catches us up.
This is absolutely, 100% not correct. I sincerely hope you aren't budgeting based on this fantasy. See PP's comment. Thus is not a shutdown. Not the same situation as what happened in the 90s and definitely not the same political climate. Please do some reading before you post with misleading and uninformed comments like this one.
So omnicient one, when will days off actually start occurring and how many of there will there be? Smart money says very few...
See the other thread. They've already started. Some agencies will be better off with passage of the CR but it's definitely happening.
They've started for who?
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/296554.page
Anonymous
03/25/2013 10:08
Subject: Re:Furlough letter - Explicit
Anonymous wrote:Yep, right there with you.
For the PP with the DH considering taking annual leave on each side of a furlough day, please read some of the recent WaPo articles on furloughs -- I beleive there was one cautioning about doing this, although I do not remember exactly why.
Because, by Federal regulations, you cannot take a leave day unless both days on either side of the leave day are in paid status. Likewise, if you furlough day falls next to a Federal holiday, by the same reasoning you may not get the Federal holiday because both days on either side of the Federal holiday must be in paid status.
I know this from personal experience, having taken LWOP in the past and not getting Federal holidays because I was not in pay status.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 09:54
Subject: Furlough letter - Explicit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes we will see furloughs and yes our paychecks will get cut. But after they fix this crap and we all suffer over the loss of our pay, congress and the White House will agree to back pay all of the days we have lost.
It has happened years ago and it will happen again. There is a precedence for this.
The main thing that we as public servants need to understand is that we can never again trust our paychecks will arrive on time or without any cuts. Instead we need to keep an emergency fund for such things. I have one that I have been saving for some possible medical issues with a child. I will dip into it and refund it when the govt. catches us up.
This is absolutely, 100% not correct. I sincerely hope you aren't budgeting based on this fantasy. See PP's comment. Thus is not a shutdown. Not the same situation as what happened in the 90s and definitely not the same political climate. Please do some reading before you post with misleading and uninformed comments like this one.
So omnicient one, when will days off actually start occurring and how many of there will there be? Smart money says very few...
See the other thread. They've already started. Some agencies will be better off with passage of the CR but it's definitely happening.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/296554.page
Anonymous
03/25/2013 09:40
Subject: Furlough letter - Explicit
There will be some furloughs, but probably not as much with original sequester (the recently passed budget allows for more flexibility for some agencies). There will be no backpay.
And I imagine in the next few years, some agencies will actually see pay cuts, if not direct cuts, then backdoor paycuts via increased contributions to the pension plan. The Republicans keep proposing it, and I fear the Dems are going to cave. It's a shame, because through the pay freeze, federal employees have actually contributed more than any other group to deficit reduction. I'd be more supportive of cutting departments and actually cutting unnecessary employes than doing across-the-board pay cuts. As that's the only way to make sustainable and sensible long-term plans.
And I imagine in the next few years, some agencies will actually see pay cuts, if not direct cuts, then backdoor paycuts via increased contributions to the pension plan. The Republicans keep proposing it, and I fear the Dems are going to cave. It's a shame, because through the pay freeze, federal employees have actually contributed more than any other group to deficit reduction. I'd be more supportive of cutting departments and actually cutting unnecessary employes than doing across-the-board pay cuts. As that's the only way to make sustainable and sensible long-term plans.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 09:01
Subject: Furlough letter - Explicit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes we will see furloughs and yes our paychecks will get cut. But after they fix this crap and we all suffer over the loss of our pay, congress and the White House will agree to back pay all of the days we have lost.
It has happened years ago and it will happen again. There is a precedence for this.
The main thing that we as public servants need to understand is that we can never again trust our paychecks will arrive on time or without any cuts. Instead we need to keep an emergency fund for such things. I have one that I have been saving for some possible medical issues with a child. I will dip into it and refund it when the govt. catches us up.
This is absolutely, 100% not correct. I sincerely hope you aren't budgeting based on this fantasy. See PP's comment. Thus is not a shutdown. Not the same situation as what happened in the 90s and definitely not the same political climate. Please do some reading before you post with misleading and uninformed comments like this one.
So omnicient one, when will days off actually start occurring and how many of there will there be? Smart money says very few...
Anonymous
03/25/2013 07:32
Subject: Furlough letter - Explicit
Anonymous wrote:Yes we will see furloughs and yes our paychecks will get cut. But after they fix this crap and we all suffer over the loss of our pay, congress and the White House will agree to back pay all of the days we have lost.
It has happened years ago and it will happen again. There is a precedence for this.
The main thing that we as public servants need to understand is that we can never again trust our paychecks will arrive on time or without any cuts. Instead we need to keep an emergency fund for such things. I have one that I have been saving for some possible medical issues with a child. I will dip into it and refund it when the govt. catches us up.
This is absolutely, 100% not correct. I sincerely hope you aren't budgeting based on this fantasy. See PP's comment. Thus is not a shutdown. Not the same situation as what happened in the 90s and definitely not the same political climate. Please do some reading before you post with misleading and uninformed comments like this one.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 06:28
Subject: Furlough letter - Explicit
There is no way we're getting back pay. The budgets are cut, there isn't the money to do it. It's not a government shutdown where they eventually do pass a budget and agencies can then afford to back pay people. Totally different situation.
Anonymous
03/25/2013 01:02
Subject: Furlough letter - Explicit
Yes we will see furloughs and yes our paychecks will get cut. But after they fix this crap and we all suffer over the loss of our pay, congress and the White House will agree to back pay all of the days we have lost.
It has happened years ago and it will happen again. There is a precedence for this.
The main thing that we as public servants need to understand is that we can never again trust our paychecks will arrive on time or without any cuts. Instead we need to keep an emergency fund for such things. I have one that I have been saving for some possible medical issues with a child. I will dip into it and refund it when the govt. catches us up.
It has happened years ago and it will happen again. There is a precedence for this.
The main thing that we as public servants need to understand is that we can never again trust our paychecks will arrive on time or without any cuts. Instead we need to keep an emergency fund for such things. I have one that I have been saving for some possible medical issues with a child. I will dip into it and refund it when the govt. catches us up.
Anonymous
03/22/2013 21:55
Subject: Furlough letter - Explicit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:May 10th? Oh come on, not a chance this crap will still be going on by then.
Exactly why I find all this woe is me shit irritating. It's not even here.
What kind of fantasy land are you people living in? Have you read the paper or listened to the news lately? Congress has made very clear that they have no intention of stopping the sequester. How exactly do you see this coming to an end by May?
I agree. The only thing Congress seems to even be working on is the upcoming CR that ends on March 27th, and that doesn't deal at all with the sequestration mess. Other agencies that require more furlough days have already received their 30 days furlough notices.
The 30 day furlough letter means nothing. I received mine more than three weeks ago and then not a peep since.