Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 09:49     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyway - I don't care about such signs and rules. I make my own decisions about what to do with my kids. I do not take strangers' opinions into consideration.


That is a great attitude to teach your kids. Will serve them well in life. Who cares what the signs and rules say?


+1

But, this is Washington. This is so typical. "The rules don't apply to me. I'm more important than the rules. They are just suggestions."

This pp is probably the same cunt who drives past the line of cars on the shoulder to get to the exit ramp more quickly, doesn't pick up after her dog, and smokes in the airplane lavatory.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 09:44     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with boys five and under in the ladies changing/bathroom at the pool, but once they are over five, they're too old to be in the changing room with my daughter.

We have a rule at the pool and if the PP brought her 8 year old into the showers, I'd complain to the attendants to enforce that rule. Eight is way too old to be in the room where my five year old changes.


I'm the person that posted a few posts above yours about taking my 8 year old son into the women's locker room with my daughters and myself.

I understand that some people are not thrilled with an 8 year old boy being in the women's locker room. I'm certainly NOT trying to offend anyone!

But to be honest, I would much rather someone be momentarily embarrassed about a little boy seeing them nude than for my son to be molested in the men's locker room.

I have told my son not to stare at nude people while he's in there with us, and to be completely honest, he doesn't. While he is showering off he just talks to his sisters and myself. He's probably at least 3 to 4 years off from puberty. And I plan on having him use the men's locker room in a couple of years.



You are very seriously unhinged. UNHINGED. NOBODY WILL MOLEST YOUR SON IN THE MEN'S LOCKER ROOM WHEN HE WALKS THROUGH IT. That simply DOES NOT HAPPEN. Who ARE you people?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 09:31     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
What do you think about a man taking an 8 year old girl into the mens locker room?
Have you heard about women abusing boys? A boy can be abused by a woman.
Oh, just give up swimming. Do not come
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 07:23     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
You're teaching your child to be afraid of men because they are all potential predators. That is a great message. "One day you'll be a man, too and they are BAD!" You're also facilitating the loss of that precious window of time where he can start tuning his own senses to his surroundings. Great job, Mom. He will be dependent on you forever and hate being a man one day. I suspect that is the goal though, right?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 00:48     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
Anonymous wrote:I have a 5 year old boy and we have been going to the pool every day. There is no family changing room there, just men's and women's rooms. I have him walk through the men's room to come and go to the pool, but when he has to go to the bathroom, he needs my help with his wet bathing suit. So I take him into the women's room. The pool has a policy that children over 6 must use the gender appropriate bathroom, so my child is technically OK going into the women's room. However, there are many unclothed women and girls in there and he gawks at them, as much as I tell him to look straight ahead, do your business, and let's get out.

I don't want to make the other women uncomfortable. I have no idea if they are uncomfortable or not. Most are Asian and Russian immigrants and have I have no idea if cultural norms are different or not.

Should I help him practice with his swim suit so he can go to the bathroom by himself in the men's room? Am I making too big a deal of this?

As a Russian immigrant: I believe in Russia cultural norms are more lax regarding children of opposite gender in the changing room than in the US. I personally am sympathetic to mothers who have no other choice. My own dad, though, opted to go to women's bathroom many years ago not to traumatize me
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 00:33     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with boys five and under in the ladies changing/bathroom at the pool, but once they are over five, they're too old to be in the changing room with my daughter.

We have a rule at the pool and if the PP brought her 8 year old into the showers, I'd complain to the attendants to enforce that rule. Eight is way too old to be in the room where my five year old changes.


I'm the person that posted a few posts above yours about taking my 8 year old son into the women's locker room with my daughters and myself.

I understand that some people are not thrilled with an 8 year old boy being in the women's locker room. I'm certainly NOT trying to offend anyone!

But to be honest, I would much rather someone be momentarily embarrassed about a little boy seeing them nude than for my son to be molested in the men's locker room.

I have told my son not to stare at nude people while he's in there with us, and to be completely honest, he doesn't. While he is showering off he just talks to his sisters and myself. He's probably at least 3 to 4 years off from puberty. And I plan on having him use the men's locker room in a couple of years.


An 8 year old boy is MUCH too old to be in a women's locker room where all the patrons are required to take a public nude soap shower, a 10 year old even more so. I would complain, loudly, to management, and probably say something angry to your face if it were a 10 year old. If you don't like/agree with the rules, fine--don't patronize that facility. But if you do, you need to abide by the rules.


As I mentioned, no-one has ever complained about my son being in the women's locker room, and as far as I can tell, no-one seems bothered by it. I have never received any comments or dirty looks from anyone in the locker room. The closest anyone ever seems to come to being "bothered" about my son being in there, is when an occasion a woman or girl makes an effort to face the opposite direction while they're showering.

The pool doesn't even have an age limit posted anywhere out in the open for children using opposite gender locker rooms. so, I don't know if it's against the rules for my 8 year old son to be in the women's locker room or not?


Your level of paranoia and fear is so unhealthy for your children. Kids who live under this heavy cloak of everyone is out to get you and who are not allowed to develop needed skills for independence are probably even more likely to be victimized later on as they are so vulnerable and unprepared for the world. Also this belief that you are instilling nobody is trustworthy and that all men are predators just waiting to molest him should he eve be alone with a man can seriously impact his ability to form healthy relationships.

It is one thing to be prudently cautious. It is another to allow your fears and paranoia to interrupt your child's healthy growth and development.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 00:21     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with boys five and under in the ladies changing/bathroom at the pool, but once they are over five, they're too old to be in the changing room with my daughter.

We have a rule at the pool and if the PP brought her 8 year old into the showers, I'd complain to the attendants to enforce that rule. Eight is way too old to be in the room where my five year old changes.


I'm the person that posted a few posts above yours about taking my 8 year old son into the women's locker room with my daughters and myself.

I understand that some people are not thrilled with an 8 year old boy being in the women's locker room. I'm certainly NOT trying to offend anyone!

But to be honest, I would much rather someone be momentarily embarrassed about a little boy seeing them nude than for my son to be molested in the men's locker room.

I have told my son not to stare at nude people while he's in there with us, and to be completely honest, he doesn't. While he is showering off he just talks to his sisters and myself. He's probably at least 3 to 4 years off from puberty. And I plan on having him use the men's locker room in a couple of years.


An 8 year old boy is MUCH too old to be in a women's locker room where all the patrons are required to take a public nude soap shower, a 10 year old even more so. I would complain, loudly, to management, and probably say something angry to your face if it were a 10 year old. If you don't like/agree with the rules, fine--don't patronize that facility. But if you do, you need to abide by the rules.


I was able to find the rule-sheet that I was given when I payed for the memberships for my children and I.

It would appear that I am technically violating two of the rules. Those being...

"Children eight years and older must use same-sex locker rooms."
And
"All pool users are required to take a nude soap shower before entering pool, no exceptions."

My son is already 8 years old, and I'm still taking him into the women's locker room. Also, I don't make my son take the required NUDE shower before he swims.

However, here is a bit of a contradiction in the rules... One of the rules states that "All children under the age of twelve must be accompanied by an adult in locker rooms and pool."

My husband is at work while my children and I are at the pool. There aren't any men with us while we're at the pool.

Unless and until I am forced to do otherwise, I will just be continuing on with the way that my children and I have been handling things thus-far.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 00:05     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:#1 You can't guarantee that a child can't be molested in a men's locker room.
#2 I would not ask you to not go about your business the way that you choose when you're in the locker room. I too am making the point that it's no big deal for a little boy to be in the women's locker room while there are nude women in there, compared with what could happen if he was sent into the men's locker room by himself.


Lady -- this is a guy speaking. You seem to have some really weird notion about what's going on in that mythical "men's locker room".

It's guys changing. Very similar, I suppose, to the lady's locker room.

How do you envision anybody getting molested in a busy public room?

True, nobody can "guarantee that a child won't be molested" in a particular place. That, very sadly, is a fact of life. But don't pretend that the "men's locker room" is a scary place -- the statistical chance that a child gets molested in a private home (including his/her own home), is much higher.

Anyway. I understand you want to protect your child -- I have children myself. Just, realistically, there is really very little danger in a locker room in a public pool.


Fortunately, I would agree that the vast majority of men would never think of doing something sick to a child. But I don't want that one guy out of a hundred to harm my child in anyway!
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 23:45     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
Anonymous wrote:#1 You can't guarantee that a child can't be molested in a men's locker room.
#2 I would not ask you to not go about your business the way that you choose when you're in the locker room. I too am making the point that it's no big deal for a little boy to be in the women's locker room while there are nude women in there, compared with what could happen if he was sent into the men's locker room by himself.


Lady -- this is a guy speaking. You seem to have some really weird notion about what's going on in that mythical "men's locker room".

It's guys changing. Very similar, I suppose, to the lady's locker room.

How do you envision anybody getting molested in a busy public room?

True, nobody can "guarantee that a child won't be molested" in a particular place. That, very sadly, is a fact of life. But don't pretend that the "men's locker room" is a scary place -- the statistical chance that a child gets molested in a private home (including his/her own home), is much higher.

Anyway. I understand you want to protect your child -- I have children myself. Just, realistically, there is really very little danger in a locker room in a public pool.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 23:40     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with boys five and under in the ladies changing/bathroom at the pool, but once they are over five, they're too old to be in the changing room with my daughter.

We have a rule at the pool and if the PP brought her 8 year old into the showers, I'd complain to the attendants to enforce that rule. Eight is way too old to be in the room where my five year old changes.


I'm the person that posted a few posts above yours about taking my 8 year old son into the women's locker room with my daughters and myself.

I understand that some people are not thrilled with an 8 year old boy being in the women's locker room. I'm certainly NOT trying to offend anyone!

But to be honest, I would much rather someone be momentarily embarrassed about a little boy seeing them nude than for my son to be molested in the men's locker room.

I have told my son not to stare at nude people while he's in there with us, and to be completely honest, he doesn't. While he is showering off he just talks to his sisters and myself. He's probably at least 3 to 4 years off from puberty. And I plan on having him use the men's locker room in a couple of years.


An 8 year old boy is MUCH too old to be in a women's locker room where all the patrons are required to take a public nude soap shower, a 10 year old even more so. I would complain, loudly, to management, and probably say something angry to your face if it were a 10 year old. If you don't like/agree with the rules, fine--don't patronize that facility. But if you do, you need to abide by the rules.


As I mentioned, no-one has ever complained about my son being in the women's locker room, and as far as I can tell, no-one seems bothered by it. I have never received any comments or dirty looks from anyone in the locker room. The closest anyone ever seems to come to being "bothered" about my son being in there, is when an occasion a woman or girl makes an effort to face the opposite direction while they're showering.

The pool doesn't even have an age limit posted anywhere out in the open for children using opposite gender locker rooms. so, I don't know if it's against the rules for my 8 year old son to be in the women's locker room or not?
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 23:33     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
Anonymous wrote:How is your kid going to get molested in the mens locker room?
Kids get molested by people they know and by people their parents trust. The stranger-molester is rare, and a mens locker room is too crowded and busy.

Just let your kid learn some independence.

I for one am not going to accomodate you. I will strip in front of any old kid in the womens room and feel no shame


#1 You can't guarantee that a child can't be molested in a men's locker room.
#2 I would not ask you to not go about your business the way that you choose when you're in the locker room. I too am making the point that it's no big deal for a little boy to be in the women's locker room while there are nude women in there, compared with what could happen if he was sent into the men's locker room by himself.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 23:09     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with boys five and under in the ladies changing/bathroom at the pool, but once they are over five, they're too old to be in the changing room with my daughter.

We have a rule at the pool and if the PP brought her 8 year old into the showers, I'd complain to the attendants to enforce that rule. Eight is way too old to be in the room where my five year old changes.


I'm the person that posted a few posts above yours about taking my 8 year old son into the women's locker room with my daughters and myself.

I understand that some people are not thrilled with an 8 year old boy being in the women's locker room. I'm certainly NOT trying to offend anyone!

But to be honest, I would much rather someone be momentarily embarrassed about a little boy seeing them nude than for my son to be molested in the men's locker room.

I have told my son not to stare at nude people while he's in there with us, and to be completely honest, he doesn't. While he is showering off he just talks to his sisters and myself. He's probably at least 3 to 4 years off from puberty. And I plan on having him use the men's locker room in a couple of years.


An 8 year old boy is MUCH too old to be in a women's locker room where all the patrons are required to take a public nude soap shower, a 10 year old even more so. I would complain, loudly, to management, and probably say something angry to your face if it were a 10 year old. If you don't like/agree with the rules, fine--don't patronize that facility. But if you do, you need to abide by the rules.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 22:51     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
How is your kid going to get molested in the mens locker room?
Kids get molested by people they know and by people their parents trust. The stranger-molester is rare, and a mens locker room is too crowded and busy.

Just let your kid learn some independence.

I for one am not going to accomodate you. I will strip in front of any old kid in the womens room and feel no shame
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 22:47     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with boys five and under in the ladies changing/bathroom at the pool, but once they are over five, they're too old to be in the changing room with my daughter.

We have a rule at the pool and if the PP brought her 8 year old into the showers, I'd complain to the attendants to enforce that rule. Eight is way too old to be in the room where my five year old changes.


I'm the person that posted a few posts above yours about taking my 8 year old son into the women's locker room with my daughters and myself.

I understand that some people are not thrilled with an 8 year old boy being in the women's locker room. I'm certainly NOT trying to offend anyone!

But to be honest, I would much rather someone be momentarily embarrassed about a little boy seeing them nude than for my son to be molested in the men's locker room.

I have told my son not to stare at nude people while he's in there with us, and to be completely honest, he doesn't. While he is showering off he just talks to his sisters and myself. He's probably at least 3 to 4 years off from puberty. And I plan on having him use the men's locker room in a couple of years.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 13:53     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.
Anonymous wrote:Anyway - I don't care about such signs and rules. I make my own decisions about what to do with my kids. I do not take strangers' opinions into consideration.


That is a great attitude to teach your kids. Will serve them well in life. Who cares what the signs and rules say?