Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I get it!! To justify the compensation taxpayers are funding we have to compare it to a exclusive private school. An urban school system with kids on FARMS has a super whose compensation can be justified in comparison with an exclusive private school.

The Landon folks voluntarily pay the fees to support those salaries y'all. And those folks don't call themselves social justice warriors.

Why can't Starr send his kids to school in the Red zone with my kids?

Now I get it, too! The poor, who can't afford private school, can suck it. It's all perfectly clear now.

The cr@$ you people dish out is breathtaking. If MCPS is really about the poor cut the personal vehicles and the obscene salaries. The liberal Post is right MCPS is not about kids. When you lose the support of the liberals you know you no longer have credibility.

I'm a liberal, and I think you're an ass.

Anonymous wrote:

The cr@$ you people dish out is breathtaking. If MCPS is really about the poor cut the personal vehicles and the obscene salaries. The liberal Post is right MCPS is not about kids. When you lose the support of the liberals you know you no longer have credibility.

The Post is NOT liberal and it hates all unions. This is common knowledge.

Your problem is that you're whining about the wrong things. I actually agree that MCPS bureaucracy is bloated. But the problem is not Starr's "obscene" salary of $2/kid, or that the teachers get paid too much like you guys are always arguing here. There is in fact plenty of fat to cut, in the form of too many administrators in the central MCPS bureaucracy for one thing. But as for salaries -- if you have any understanding of business, you should realize that better salaries attract better talent. Wanna clean out MCPS? Offer $800K and see who starts applying for the position.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I get it!! To justify the compensation taxpayers are funding we have to compare it to a exclusive private school. An urban school system with kids on FARMS has a super whose compensation can be justified in comparison with an exclusive private school.

The Landon folks voluntarily pay the fees to support those salaries y'all. And those folks don't call themselves social justice warriors.

Why can't Starr send his kids to school in the Red zone with my kids?

Now I get it, too! The poor, who can't afford private school, can suck it. It's all perfectly clear now.

The cr@$ you people dish out is breathtaking. If MCPS is really about the poor cut the personal vehicles and the obscene salaries. The liberal Post is right MCPS is not about kids. When you lose the support of the liberals you know you no longer have credibility.

Hey, I have a fabulous idea!!!! Why don't we raise the MoCo Superintendent's salary to $500K? This would be about $4/kid. And maybe 25 cents more from every MoCo taxpayer.

And with an actual competitive salary, maybe we could get rid of Starr and attract the WARREN BUFFET of school heads, who could REALLY clean MoCo up! Heck, by Landon's standard of nearly $1000 per kid, we should be paying the MoCo Superintendent $145 milllion! Why should public school kids do worse than private school kids? And just think of the big gun CEO talent a cool $145 million would attract!

I think all good liberals, like 18:14, would be able to get behind this.

Anonymous wrote:
I get it!! To justify the compensation taxpayers are funding we have to compare it to a exclusive private school. An urban school system with kids on FARMS has a super whose compensation can be justified in comparison with an exclusive private school.

The Landon folks voluntarily pay the fees to support those salaries y'all. And those folks don't call themselves social justice warriors.

Why can't Starr send his kids to school in the Red zone with my kids?

Now I get it, too! The poor, who can't afford private school, can suck it. It's all perfectly clear now.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More on the Potomac School, again from the Landon thread:


http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/54...62160/540562160_201106_990.pdf


See page 8. $626k regular comp + 105k other comp = $731k total comp

I get it!! To justify the compensation taxpayers are funding we have to compare it to a exclusive private school. An urban school system with kids on FARMS has a super whose compensation can be justified in comparison with an exclusive private school.

The Landon folks voluntarily pay the fees to support those salaries y'all. And those folks don't call themselves social justice warriors.

Why can't Starr send his kids to school in the Red zone with my kids?

??? This doesn't even make sense. Y'all.

But let me do some math for you. Starr gets $275K for a system of about 145,000 kids (actually, 145,497: http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/about/), which comes out to about $1.896551724 per kid, plus that car. Landon's head gets $750K for about 800 kids, which is about $935/kid, plus a country club membership.

Anonymous wrote:More on the Potomac School, again from the Landon thread:


http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/54...62160/540562160_201106_990.pdf


See page 8. $626k regular comp + 105k other comp = $731k total comp

Look if we want to compare an urban public school compensation packet with that an exclusive private school let us stop pretending that MCPS is run like a public school. Landon doesn't have differentiated classrooms like MCPS does.

Anonymous wrote:More on the Potomac School, again from the Landon thread:


http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/54...62160/540562160_201106_990.pdf


See page 8. $626k regular comp + 105k other comp = $731k total comp

I get it!! To justify the compensation taxpayers are funding we have to compare it to a exclusive private school. An urban school system with kids on FARMS has a super whose compensation can be justified in comparison with an exclusive private school.

The Landon folks voluntarily pay the fees to support those salaries y'all. And those folks don't call themselves social justice warriors.

Why can't Starr send his kids to school in the Red zone with my kids?

More on the Potomac School, again from the Landon thread:


http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/54...62160/540562160_201106_990.pdf


See page 8. $626k regular comp + 105k other comp = $731k total comp

Honestly? It's peanuts compared to the $800K received by Landon's head:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/26/landon-headmasters-high-pay-cited-in-suit/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

And from the Landon thread somebody posted these total compensation packages for heads of school:

Potomac School (2010) $730k.
Maret (2010) $435k
GDS in 2009 $537k.

And my neighbor in publishing sales gets a new company car every two years. Nor does Starr's company car look like a popemobile, FWIW.

A stunningly nice package for someone who has little experience running a big school system!

Here are excepts from the Super's contract:

Salary. The Superintendent shall receive an annual salary of Two Hundred Fifty Thousand Dollars ($250,000). The annual salary of the Superintendent shall be paid in accordance with the schedule of salary payments in effect for all other twelve (12) month administrative employees of MCPS. The annual salary shall be subject to required withholding for income taxes, Social Security contributions, and other required withholdings of contributions and taxes. Absent mutual consent of the parties, the Superintendent’s salary shall not be decreased during the term of this Contract in accordance with Educ. Art. §4-202(b).
B. Annual Salary and Total Compensation and Benefits Review. The Superintendent’s salary shall be reviewed on an annual basis, at the time of the Superintendent’s evaluation by the Board. It is presumed that the Board will grant an annual increase in the salary paid to the Superintendent during the term of the Contract taking in account factors such as the Superintendent’s performance evaluation, fiscal realities, and increases (or lack thereof) given to MCPS employees in general, and it is understood that those factors may, in certain years, preclude an increase. In no event shall the Superintendent’s salary be less than the compensation paid at the time of the annual evaluation (absent mutual agreement of the parties).
The Board agrees to pay the amount of Thirty-Five Thousand Dollars ($35,000) on or before June 30, 2012, and on or before June 30 annually thereafter during the term of this Agreement to the Montgomery County Public Schools 403(b) Plan in behalf of the Superintendent. The Board will consider increases to this contribution on an annual basis.
The Board shall provide the Superintendent with a vehicle (approved by the Board) for school district business and personal purposes during the term of this Contract. For purposes of this Section, providing a vehicle may include reimbursement to the Superintendent of the costs of a vehicle lease. The Superintendent’s expenses for gasoline, insurance, maintenance, and repairs in connection with the use of said vehicle shall be paid by the Board. To the extent that the use of the vehicle for personal purposes results in tax consequences, the Superintendent shall be responsible for payment of such taxes.
In the event the life or safety of the Superintendent or his family is threatened or otherwise appears in danger as the result of the performance of the Superintendent’s official duties, the Board shall pay the reasonable and necessary costs incident to the protection for the Superintendent and his family. The Board and Superintendent agree to first seek such protection from the Montgomery County police authorities.
The Superintendent shall be provided a personal computer/laptop, software appropriate for his duties, modem telephone lines, cell/mobile phone (Blackberry and/or IPhone), and a telefax/printer machine for the Superintendent’s use in his home office, or as otherwise determined to be appropriate by the Superintendent and MCPS.

Anonymous wrote:

Personal attacks are a sign that there is nothing substantive a poster can say to rebut an opinion. The OP should read about MCPS in detail before moving to MOCO.

The vitriolic postings accusing anyone who opposes the union view as right wing or Fox news watchers/conservatives belies a lack of anything useful to say y'all.

Parents should learn more about MCPS before moving to MOCO. I think it is no longer a good school system ... the changing demographics prove the point.

But it's totally OK to lie about popemobiles and call doubters "lazy liberal slackers"? OK, it's clear where you're coming from.

Teachers have lower-than-average IQ, as proven by a study of SAT scores. Thus, they don't deserve the salaries and benefits they get.

The 9-month work year is a travesty. They should have their salaries cut by 1/4.

So... Yes! Kill the unions! Take away the teacher's health and pension benefits!

(These were actual posts.)

Anonymous wrote:Informed choice is a great thing. But when you have posters making up nonsense about popemobilies and security details, and posting this nonsense as fact (because it wasn't posted as a joke), then "informed choice" doesn't work and OP will be misled.

OP needs to be aware, as at least one other poster and maybe two others besides me have pointed out, that there's a prolific right-wing poster on the MCPS board. Some her posts are flat-out lies, like the popemobile. And some are conservatively-formed opinions, like her frequent posts that teachers are uneducated and overpaid slackers, teacher unions are responsible for every ill in the county, et cetera.

Signed, another poster who doesn't like Starr and who has no connection to MCPS besides sending my kids there (unlike the popemobile poster who is in Howard or sends her kids to private, I can't follow)

Okay!! I took the bait and read the contract and read Starr's tweets. Oy!! What are you folks in MOCO thinking? I'm as liberal as they get and I am appalled by what is going on in MCPS. It looks like the MCPS unions have pissed off the Washington Post as well.

Look at this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/23/AR2010072304972.html
and this: http://mceaschoolnotes.blogspot.com/2012/05/mcea-president-doug-prouty-responds-to.html
and this: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/237278.page
and this: http://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2012/06/montgomery-county-public-schools.html
and this: http://www.mctaxpayersleague.org/
and this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/montgomery-countys-wrong-education-priorities/2012/05/24/gJQA0wOBoU_story.html
.....

Personal attacks are a sign that there is nothing substantive a poster can say to rebut an opinion. The OP should read about MCPS in detail before moving to MOCO.

The vitriolic postings accusing anyone who opposes the union view as right wing or Fox news watchers/conservatives belies a lack of anything useful to say y'all.

Parents should learn more about MCPS before moving to MOCO. I think it is no longer a good school system ... the changing demographics prove the point.