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Anonymous wrote:I notice none of the religious folks are piping in about that chart that shows all of the ways in which bible teachings have been done away with based on our evolving as people and as a society. How do you cherry pick what you take from the bible and what you don't, what sacrament "sticks" and what doesn't? Convenience to you? I guess, because none of it makes sense otherwise. That's the biggest hypocrisy.

If you have to design a law that harms others in order to prove your morality, then you're lacking morals.

Which is why, in their inability to discuss it, the silence is deafening.

This is very common on the Internet. When you present people with facts, they just disappear from the thread.

Oh, seriously? You guys are the same people that fight to be able to kill unborn humans, just in the name of protecting a particular right of the mom. I consider that significant, devastating, painful, and permanent harm to one part of humanity in order to uphold your particular version of morality.

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NotSoAnonymous wrote:" Instead, they continually try to legitimize their lifestyle by pushing these marriage laws, and the unfortunate outcome is that they fail to gain certain privileges."

My life, my family, and my love is legitimate. I am not asking for privileges, I am asking for rights. Pursuit of happiness, liberty... It applies to all of us.

I disagree that your family and love is legitimate, as I believe homosexuality is fundamentally disordered and abnormal. I believe it represents a disfunction in human existence, probably caused by a variety of factors. Celebrating, endorsing and promoting homosexuality should be discouraged as it causes ever-deepening confusion and ultimately chaos in a society. Yes, I live and work alongside gay people, and would never say this directly to anyone's face as I realize it is hurtful. In fact, I don't know that I've ever written or spoken these words before, as it would be considered rude and impolite; however I figured it's not fair to be having this conversation without clearly and honestly stating my beliefs. Clearly I hold an extremely unpopular opinion compared to those on DCUM; however the majority of people living in this country agree with me. That said, I don't care what you do with your life or in your bedroom. That's between you and whoever you choose to be involved with in your life. And, certainly you should be free to pursue life, liberty and happiness, without any condemnation or persecution from our legal system. Aside from that, marriage has a very specific purpose and definition, and I am not willing to vote for that to be changed. I would be fine voting in favor of a domestic partnership law which allows two consenting adults to have certain exclusive powers with and for each other.

No love you have for anyone could possibly be "legitimate" with this kind of hate inside you. Do the people you work alongside and live alongside a favor and "out" yourself. At least they'll know to steer clear of you, instead of being a coward who can't even own up to their own views.

I'm having a hard time figuring out who hates who in this conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:your rights should not be tied to marriage, what if you are not married to your partner? marriage, either gay or not, should not be what allows you to have rights, rights should be allowed because it is what is right.

PS I am agianst gay marriage.

So you think straight marriage shouldn't have any rights either? Everyone gets civil unions for legal rights and marriage for religious recognition?

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NotSoAnonymous wrote:" Instead, they continually try to legitimize their lifestyle by pushing these marriage laws, and the unfortunate outcome is that they fail to gain certain privileges."

My life, my family, and my love is legitimate. I am not asking for privileges, I am asking for rights. Pursuit of happiness, liberty... It applies to all of us.

I disagree that your family and love is legitimate, as I believe homosexuality is fundamentally disordered and abnormal. I believe it represents a disfunction in human existence, probably caused by a variety of factors. Celebrating, endorsing and promoting homosexuality should be discouraged as it causes ever-deepening confusion and ultimately chaos in a society. Yes, I live and work alongside gay people, and would never say this directly to anyone's face as I realize it is hurtful. In fact, I don't know that I've ever written or spoken these words before, as it would be considered rude and impolite; however I figured it's not fair to be having this conversation without clearly and honestly stating my beliefs. Clearly I hold an extremely unpopular opinion compared to those on DCUM; however the majority of people living in this country agree with me. That said, I don't care what you do with your life or in your bedroom. That's between you and whoever you choose to be involved with in your life. And, certainly you should be free to pursue life, liberty and happiness, without any condemnation or persecution from our legal system. Aside from that, marriage has a very specific purpose and definition, and I am not willing to vote for that to be changed. I would be fine voting in favor of a domestic partnership law which allows two consenting adults to have certain exclusive powers with and for each other.

No love you have for anyone could possibly be "legitimate" with this kind of hate inside you. Do the people you work alongside and live alongside a favor and "out" yourself. At least they'll know to steer clear of you, instead of being a coward who can't even own up to their own views.

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I disagree that your family and love is legitimate, as I believe homosexuality is fundamentally disordered and abnormal. I believe it represents a disfunction in human existence, probably caused by a variety of factors. Celebrating, endorsing and promoting homosexuality should be discouraged as it causes ever-deepening confusion and ultimately chaos in a society. Yes, I live and work alongside gay people, and would never say this directly to anyone's face as I realize it is hurtful. In fact, I don't know that I've ever written or spoken these words before, as it would be considered rude and impolite; however I figured it's not fair to be having this conversation without clearly and honestly stating my beliefs. Clearly I hold an extremely unpopular opinion compared to those on DCUM; however the majority of people living in this country agree with me. That said, I don't care what you do with your life or in your bedroom. That's between you and whoever you choose to be involved with in your life. And, certainly you should be free to pursue life, liberty and happiness, without any condemnation or persecution from our legal system. Aside from that, marriage has a very specific purpose and definition, and I am not willing to vote for that to be changed. I would be fine voting in favor of a domestic partnership law which allows two consenting adults to have certain exclusive powers with and for each other.

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Anonymous wrote:I notice none of the religious folks are piping in about that chart that shows all of the ways in which bible teachings have been done away with based on our evolving as people and as a society. How do you cherry pick what you take from the bible and what you don't, what sacrament "sticks" and what doesn't? Convenience to you? I guess, because none of it makes sense otherwise. That's the biggest hypocrisy.

If you have to design a law that harms others in order to prove your morality, then you're lacking morals.

Which is why, in their inability to discuss it, the silence is deafening.

This is very common on the Internet. When you present people with facts, they just disappear from the thread.

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NotSoAnonymous wrote:" Instead, they continually try to legitimize their lifestyle by pushing these marriage laws, and the unfortunate outcome is that they fail to gain certain privileges."

My life, my family, and my love is legitimate. I am not asking for privileges, I am asking for rights. Pursuit of happiness, liberty... It applies to all of us.

I disagree that your family and love is legitimate, as I believe homosexuality is fundamentally disordered and abnormal. I believe it represents a disfunction in human existence, probably caused by a variety of factors. Celebrating, endorsing and promoting homosexuality should be discouraged as it causes ever-deepening confusion and ultimately chaos in a society. Yes, I live and work alongside gay people, and would never say this directly to anyone's face as I realize it is hurtful. In fact, I don't know that I've ever written or spoken these words before, as it would be considered rude and impolite; however I figured it's not fair to be having this conversation without clearly and honestly stating my beliefs. Clearly I hold an extremely unpopular opinion compared to those on DCUM; however the majority of people living in this country agree with me. That said, I don't care what you do with your life or in your bedroom. That's between you and whoever you choose to be involved with in your life. And, certainly you should be free to pursue life, liberty and happiness, without any condemnation or persecution from our legal system. Aside from that, marriage has a very specific purpose and definition, and I am not willing to vote for that to be changed. I would be fine voting in favor of a domestic partnership law which allows two consenting adults to have certain exclusive powers with and for each other.

NotSoAnonymous wrote:" Instead, they continually try to legitimize their lifestyle by pushing these marriage laws, and the unfortunate outcome is that they fail to gain certain privileges."

My life, my family, and my love is legitimate. I am not asking for privileges, I am asking for rights. Pursuit of happiness, liberty... It applies to all of us.

Anonymous wrote:PP is referring to people who are "all for gay rights" but don't want gay relationships to be called "marriages."

In other words, people who think their relationship is more valid than a gay relationship.

Anonymous wrote:For the "marraige is a sacrament" poster - marriage was not preformed in Churches until around the 11th century and was not recognized as a sacrament till the 1500's. So the fact that marriage in the sarcament, in the broader spectrum of the history of marraige means very little.

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Anonymous wrote:your rights should not be tied to marriage, what if you are not married to your partner? marriage, either gay or not, should not be what allows you to have rights, rights should be allowed because it is what is right.

PS I am agianst gay marriage.

So you think straight marriage shouldn't have any rights either? Everyone gets civil unions for legal rights and marriage for religious recognition?