Anonymous
08/31/2011 08:08
Subject: I like Rick Perry
You did not mention Russia or South Africa
And you did not mention that America had slaves because the white colonialists were able to buy them from the English. And buy they did.
Just think, they could have complained about what was happening to the blacks there and then, but chose to purchase them instead. That they did of their own free will. Nobody forced them to buy them
And with the help of blacks they were able to steal the land from the original inhabitants. And the original inhabitants got to die
Well let's take a look at that:
Haiti: Revolution
Portugal: Banned by Monarch
Spain: Got kicked out of the New World
Germany: Hitler defeated
France: Slavery was abolished when Napoleon was defeated.
Denmark: Banned by Monarch
Romania: Half peaceful legislation, half during the revolution of 1848
Ethiopia: Banned by conquering Italians
West Indies: British legislation
To me, it looks like most abolition was accomplished either by revolution, imposed by a monarch, or the result of either a decree to a colony or the loss of a colony. That doesn't exactly reinforce your point.
And you did not mention that America had slaves because the white colonialists were able to buy them from the English. And buy they did.
Just think, they could have complained about what was happening to the blacks there and then, but chose to purchase them instead. That they did of their own free will. Nobody forced them to buy them
And with the help of blacks they were able to steal the land from the original inhabitants. And the original inhabitants got to die
Anonymous wrote:He started a civil war he could have avoided
And everywhere else slavery was abolished peacefully.
History has just been made to look pretty
Well let's take a look at that:
Haiti: Revolution
Portugal: Banned by Monarch
Spain: Got kicked out of the New World
Germany: Hitler defeated
France: Slavery was abolished when Napoleon was defeated.
Denmark: Banned by Monarch
Romania: Half peaceful legislation, half during the revolution of 1848
Ethiopia: Banned by conquering Italians
West Indies: British legislation
To me, it looks like most abolition was accomplished either by revolution, imposed by a monarch, or the result of either a decree to a colony or the loss of a colony. That doesn't exactly reinforce your point.
jsteele
08/31/2011 07:40
Subject: I like Rick Perry
Anonymous wrote:Obama had a perfect liberal voting record in the Senate....radical left
Yes, as a radical leftist, Obama has:
1) pursued single payer health insurance;
2) sought to prosecute Bush era torturers and privacy invaders;
3) nationalized the financial institutions that caused the banking crisis;
4) supported same sex marriage; and
5) ended existing wars and avoided new ones.
I can't wait for our long national nightmare of radical leftism to be over.
/alternative universe
Anonymous
08/31/2011 07:09
Subject: I like Rick Perry
Obama had a perfect liberal voting record in the Senate....radical left
Anonymous
08/31/2011 00:53
Subject: I like Rick Perry
Anonymous wrote:takoma wrote:As to Lincoln's decision, though, we'll never know whether race relations would be better now if tha Confederacy had been allowed to stand and they had (presumably) given up slavery a couple of decades later. I'm certainly not advocating (in retrospect) another generation of slavery, just saying that judgment of his decision to fight secession is complex.
i agree
He started a civil war he could have avoided
And everywhere else slavery was abolished peacefully.
History has just been made to look pretty
Well let's take a look at that:
Haiti: Revolution
Portugal: Banned by Monarch
Spain: Got kicked out of the New World
Germany: Hitler defeated
France: Slavery was abolished when Napoleon was defeated.
Denmark: Banned by Monarch
Romania: Half peaceful legislation, half during the revolution of 1848
Ethiopia: Banned by conquering Italians
West Indies: British legislation
To me, it looks like most abolition was accomplished either by revolution, imposed by a monarch, or the result of either a decree to a colony or the loss of a colony. That doesn't exactly reinforce your point.
Anonymous
08/30/2011 22:30
Subject: I like Rick Perry
takoma wrote:As to Lincoln's decision, though, we'll never know whether race relations would be better now if tha Confederacy had been allowed to stand and they had (presumably) given up slavery a couple of decades later. I'm certainly not advocating (in retrospect) another generation of slavery, just saying that judgment of his decision to fight secession is complex.
i agree
He started a civil war he could have avoided
And everywhere else slavery was abolished peacefully.
History has just been made to look pretty
Anonymous
08/30/2011 22:24
Subject: I like Rick Perry
Anonymous wrote:country is center right. Obama is radical left and he has now been clearly demonstrated to suck. He can't beat anyone at this point. But I admit he will win DC.
Obama is in the middle. You don't have a viable candidate who will even use the word "centrist". Try to get them to utter it. Not a single one will. And THAT is why you lose. You can't be center-anything if you are unwilling to speak the word.
Anonymous
08/30/2011 22:23
Subject: I like Rick Perry
Anonymous wrote:He's still gonna win
That's what you said about Chrstine O'Donnell. Now she's being disinvited from tea party events. Sorry if I disbelieve your forecasting ability or your judge of politicians.
Anonymous
08/30/2011 21:12
Subject: I like Rick Perry
country is center right. Obama is radical left and he has now been clearly demonstrated to suck. He can't beat anyone at this point. But I admit he will win DC.
Anonymous
08/30/2011 21:08
Subject: I like Rick Perry
If it is Perry, it is a choice b/w tp'ers and Obama. Easy win for Obama. The question is can Perry carry Texas?
Anonymous
08/30/2011 21:06
Subject: I like Rick Perry
He's still gonna win
Anonymous
08/30/2011 20:56
Subject: I like Rick Perry
Anonymous wrote:He's gonna win. The Dems are starting to freak out. This is soooo fun to watch.
The Dems aren't freaking out at all. Romney doesn't know what to do. The conservative pundits want to know if there is a not-stupid alternative to Perry. But I haven't seen the Dems lift a finger. And panty sniffer promised the same thing for Palin, Bachmann, and Romney. I'd love it if he would stick to a prediction for more than 60 days.
And the best part is that no one outside of Texas really knows Rick Perry. But they soon will. And THAT is going to be soooooo fun to watch Because even Texans don't like him for President. They should know.
Anonymous
08/30/2011 20:49
Subject: I like Rick Perry
He's gonna win. The Dems are starting to freak out. This is soooo fun to watch.
Anonymous
08/30/2011 19:27
Subject: I like Rick Perry
Anonymous wrote:I heard perry refused to send aid to the NE after the hurricane. Is this how he will run the country? Texas owes it existence to America's NE. The they are so ungrateful. Tea partiers are destorying this country!
If this is not a typo, then it is brilliant. I have not seen such a rewrite of history since communist Russia.
Anonymous
08/30/2011 09:47
Subject: I like Rick Perry
I heard perry refused to send aid to the NE after the hurricane. Is this how he will run the country? Texas owes it existence to America's NE. The they are so ungrateful. Tea partiers are destorying this country!
takoma
08/24/2011 21:42
Subject: I like Rick Perry
TheManWithAUsername wrote:takoma wrote:As to Lincoln's decision, though, we'll never know whether race relations would be better now if tha Confederacy had been allowed to stand and they had (presumably) given up slavery a couple of decades later. I'm certainly not advocating (in retrospect) another generation of slavery, just saying that judgment of his decision to fight secession is complex.
Why do you think it would have ended that soon?
Wishful thinking, I suppose. I might as well be an optimist when I can't be proven wrong.