Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hello from hell in SC! I’m reporting that my 80 year old mother with dementia in a memory care facility is currently costing 36k a month due to the need for 24/7 private aids due to lots of falls!
She was frugal her whole life and saved a nest egg as a teacher. A year at Clemson for one of our kids is being spent a month for her crappy care with uneducated aides who ignore her half of the time unless I argue with their supervisor.
My advice is to make sure whatever facility you place your parents in at the beginning of this journey is also qualified to accept Medicaid and has a good reputation as a Medicaid facility so that one day you can transition to that when the money runs out.
We will be moving her to a facility that requests a year of private pay before they will accept Medicaid and that is what we will need to do because she may live a lot longer, but her money is being rapidly spent down for her care
Why are you spending your college savings on this if your mother has savings? Shouldn’t you be spending down her funds that she saved for this?
I think PP is merely pointing out what an equivalent cost would be to show the magnitude, not that she is spending her kids’ college savings on her mother’s care.
Yes, I realized that that was a possibility, but the thing is, that money was saved for her mom’s care when she became old. By comparing it to a year in college, she’s implying the idea that the money would have a better use than the care of her mom, ie: paying for the son’s college tuition. Her mom saved that money- that money is meant for exactly what she’s using it for.
My partner and I are saving and investing so that we will be able to pay for our care one day. We both have some longevity genes, so we want to have enough down the road to pay for what we need as we age. We do not want to be a financial burden to our children.
Our parents did this for us. Both sets had saved enough that they never needed money from their children. That was a huge gift to us. There wasn’t a lot left when they died, but we were happy that they were always comfortable as they aged and never needed to worry about money.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hello from hell in SC! I’m reporting that my 80 year old mother with dementia in a memory care facility is currently costing 36k a month due to the need for 24/7 private aids due to lots of falls!
She was frugal her whole life and saved a nest egg as a teacher. A year at Clemson for one of our kids is being spent a month for her crappy care with uneducated aides who ignore her half of the time unless I argue with their supervisor.
My advice is to make sure whatever facility you place your parents in at the beginning of this journey is also qualified to accept Medicaid and has a good reputation as a Medicaid facility so that one day you can transition to that when the money runs out.
We will be moving her to a facility that requests a year of private pay before they will accept Medicaid and that is what we will need to do because she may live a lot longer, but her money is being rapidly spent down for her care
Why are you spending your college savings on this if your mother has savings? Shouldn’t you be spending down her funds that she saved for this?
I think PP is merely pointing out what an equivalent cost would be to show the magnitude, not that she is spending her kids’ college savings on her mother’s care.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of our parents needed this kind of care for long.
My mom died at 70 after a short illness.
My father in law died at 75 after a fall and a long illness where he was at home.
My father died in hospice. He did end up in assisted living but it was largely paid for with veterans benefits.
My mother in law lived on her own on an apartment until she was 95 and had a stroke. She died within a week at a hospital.
That's because no one actually cared for old people like this before. You just let them live in their homes until they fell sick and died on their own.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry.
You'll here half the population saying "shouldn't an old person be able to just stay in their own home" vs. the other half that will say "this is how you move the elderly out and make homes available for new generations."
Well if you don't have the funds for full time 24/7 care (and most don't---that's $25-30/hr+ or $600+ per day), then a facility is the best place. If you want to "just stay in your own home" you need to plan financially for that.
Anonymous wrote:None of our parents needed this kind of care for long.
My mom died at 70 after a short illness.
My father in law died at 75 after a fall and a long illness where he was at home.
My father died in hospice. He did end up in assisted living but it was largely paid for with veterans benefits.
My mother in law lived on her own on an apartment until she was 95 and had a stroke. She died within a week at a hospital.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah what do families do when the money runs out?
The next generation goes into debt?
The elderly person goes on Medicaid and into a Medicaid bed in a nursing home.
I really doubt this system will continue as is, with the cuts from current administration. Only a portion of homes are Medicaid beds anyway.
Nursing homes are also exorbitant. The whole system is ridiculous - so very expensive, with little quality of life.
Right, so they move in with family i guess. Or they dont get the proper care they need. I dont honestly know what we will do, hence needing to have a convo with him. I assume he thinks he wont live long but who knows.
But while I love my dad, I dont think I can sacrafice my kids college or needs to pour all my money to my dad. At least he made it to 90 before he needed any care. I
Does LTC insurance help with this? I keep hearing such mixed reviews.
Be sure to share this message with your kids so they know to disregard your wishes when you get old.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah what do families do when the money runs out?
The next generation goes into debt?
The elderly person goes on Medicaid and into a Medicaid bed in a nursing home.
I really doubt this system will continue as is, with the cuts from current administration. Only a portion of homes are Medicaid beds anyway.
Nursing homes are also exorbitant. The whole system is ridiculous - so very expensive, with little quality of life.
Right, so they move in with family i guess. Or they dont get the proper care they need. I dont honestly know what we will do, hence needing to have a convo with him. I assume he thinks he wont live long but who knows.
But while I love my dad, I dont think I can sacrafice my kids college or needs to pour all my money to my dad. At least he made it to 90 before he needed any care. I
Does LTC insurance help with this? I keep hearing such mixed reviews.
Anonymous wrote:May I also share real numbers? My mom passed away at 96, 7 years ago, in NYC, for context, so high cost of living area and some time ago. She started in independent/assisted living in a 1-bedroom apt. And needed to add 7/24 care. At that time, those costs equaled $25,000 a month or $300,000 a year.
A CCRC would have been preferable perhaps. Remaining in a suburban house or apartment was not what she wanted to do once she no longer could drive. Although uber could have helped.
Anonymous wrote:Yeah what do families do when the money runs out?
The next generation goes into debt?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is why my plan is to kill myself if I get in this situation. I’d rather leave my money to my kids than burn through it all myself.
Yeah I mean there ia a selfish side of me that says "you have two grandkids going to college in the new few years" lol. But I mean it is his money so it is what it is.
Part of me just worries what happens if he runs out. Then what do we do. I am going in August so going to try to talk then, just hard. Especially since he can't actually hear me ...
Anonymous wrote:I don't have advice here but it's something I dread. My parents live 600 miles away and I am an only child. They are healthy but rabidly insist they will stay in their home. They can afford it, but seem to forget the logistics and engagement required on behalf of family to make this actually work, which I can not do from several states away. It is a really crappy position to put adult kids in to be inflexible about aging realities.
How much is it?
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry.
You'll here half the population saying "shouldn't an old person be able to just stay in their own home" vs. the other half that will say "this is how you move the elderly out and make homes available for new generations."
Anonymous wrote:Seriously if the math you are doing is the base rate for one person times the hours in the day, you’re in lala land. The reason agencies take a huge cut over their aides take home pay is because it costs a lot, not because they’re raking in profit. When you find/poach good people, you can pay them more to convince them to stay, but it doesn’t stop them from getting sick or having a new grandbaby across the country or anything else. It doesn’t make overtime cheaper and good luck staffing 24/7 without it. Etc etc.