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Anonymous wrote:I keep seeing people describe Strongsville as an “upper middle class” community but based on the documentary it seems much more downscale? 17 year olds living with boyfriends, none of these kids heading to college? Is Ohio UMC really that different from DMV UMC?

...Were you expecting a Cleveland suburb to be chock full of Ivy-educated biglaw partners?

No but as another PP says, there are Cleveland suburbs where the parents are doctors, accountants, etc. and the kids are largely college-bound. These kids were going nowhere.

Yeah, no sh*t. If they were the ambitious, neurotic DCUM types, this documentary wouldn't exist.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep seeing people describe Strongsville as an “upper middle class” community but based on the documentary it seems much more downscale? 17 year olds living with boyfriends, none of these kids heading to college? Is Ohio UMC really that different from DMV UMC?

...Were you expecting a Cleveland suburb to be chock full of Ivy-educated biglaw partners?

No but as another PP says, there are Cleveland suburbs where the parents are doctors, accountants, etc. and the kids are largely college-bound. These kids were going nowhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep seeing people describe Strongsville as an “upper middle class” community but based on the documentary it seems much more downscale? 17 year olds living with boyfriends, none of these kids heading to college? Is Ohio UMC really that different from DMV UMC?

...Were you expecting a Cleveland suburb to be chock full of Ivy-educated biglaw partners?

No but as another PP says, there are Cleveland suburbs where the parents are doctors, accountants, etc. and the kids are largely college-bound. These kids were going nowhere.

My Dad is from one of those suburban towns outside of Cleveland (my entire family went to Ivies as engineers/physicians) and the average income is 30% higher than Strongsville.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please. If a 17 year old doesn't know that driving head on into a brick building at 100mph will probably kill or gravely injure everyone in the car then they need to be in special needs residential care. I have had kindergarteners in my back seat laughing with joy if I hit 60, they felt the “ high speed “.

What makes me think that there is more to the story is that she was not suicidal. Murder suicide is an immense tragedy and there are plenty warning signs before. An on again and off again romance does not meet my expectations of burden of proof

In the documentary, the prosecutor mentioned a witness. I think it was a friend of Dom who spoke to him on the phone a week before the crash. Dom was in the car and Mackenzie was driving and the witness could hear them arguing and Mackenzie said “ I am going to crash the car” in a threatening way Dom. The prosecutor claimed that that was evidence of “ prior intent “ ie planing.

I don’t think that she was necessarily suicidal. Like has been mentioned she was a teenager and impulsive and with anger issues and narcissism. I think that she just didn’t put that much thought into it. It’s “ I am mad at Dom for not giving me what I want, I am going to crash the car to subjugate him, I will put my seatbelt on, hopefully I don’t die too”.