Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the 2014 ECNL team no RL players moved into the top team, right? But on this thread someone confirmed that they brought in 5-6 new players (there were barely that many new players at the tryouts). So it begs the questions... did RP bring over a bunch of NVA/LS girls with him, that did not have to tryout?

There is no 2014 ECNL team until next year at U13. There is only 2014 PA1 and PA2 (pre-ECNL). I think the conversation you are referencing is the number of outside players that got offered for the 2026-27 ECNL team for U13.

The question perhaps you want answered is on the girls side, did any PA2 players make next year’s ECNL team.

Obviously I meant next year. No my question was if 5-6 outside players made that team, were they NVA transplants that RP is bringing over? Because there were maybe 5-6 outside girls trying out and only a couple made any impression at the tryouts. So who are these supposed outsiders? I suspect it is NVA.

There wasn’t 5-6 outside players that made the team, it’s a lot less than that. And only 1 from nva

We get it. Your RL kid is great. But the NL kids practice more, practice against harder competition, play against harder competition day in and day out, year after year. It is a difficult thing for RL kids to overcome, the lack of training and playing competition after the first ECNL year, unless your kid is doing way more outside training, which the NL kids are also doing. So, is your kid practicing more, playing against better competition, and training more outside of club practices? If you can’t say absolutely yes, then you really shouldn’t think your DC is in the same boat, neither should the coaches.

Anonymous wrote:For the 2014 ECNL team no RL players moved into the top team, right? But on this thread someone confirmed that they brought in 5-6 new players (there were barely that many new players at the tryouts). So it begs the questions... did RP bring over a bunch of NVA/LS girls with him, that did not have to tryout?

Not only did none of the PA2 move up, none of the 2013 red girls repeating the year moved up either. Such bs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the 2014 ECNL team no RL players moved into the top team, right? But on this thread someone confirmed that they brought in 5-6 new players (there were barely that many new players at the tryouts). So it begs the questions... did RP bring over a bunch of NVA/LS girls with him, that did not have to tryout?

There is no 2014 ECNL team until next year at U13. There is only 2014 PA1 and PA2 (pre-ECNL). I think the conversation you are referencing is the number of outside players that got offered for the 2026-27 ECNL team for U13.

The question perhaps you want answered is on the girls side, did any PA2 players make next year’s ECNL team.

He brought over one but she was probably a tagalong/twofer with her sister who is joining an older team.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the 2014 ECNL team no RL players moved into the top team, right? But on this thread someone confirmed that they brought in 5-6 new players (there were barely that many new players at the tryouts). So it begs the questions... did RP bring over a bunch of NVA/LS girls with him, that did not have to tryout?

There is no 2014 ECNL team until next year at U13. There is only 2014 PA1 and PA2 (pre-ECNL). I think the conversation you are referencing is the number of outside players that got offered for the 2026-27 ECNL team for U13.

The question perhaps you want answered is on the girls side, did any PA2 players make next year’s ECNL team.

Obviously I meant next year. No my question was if 5-6 outside players made that team, were they NVA transplants that RP is bringing over? Because there were maybe 5-6 outside girls trying out and only a couple made any impression at the tryouts. So who are these supposed outsiders? I suspect it is NVA.

Also kids that could have been scouted and didn’t need to come to tryouts.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the 2014 ECNL team no RL players moved into the top team, right? But on this thread someone confirmed that they brought in 5-6 new players (there were barely that many new players at the tryouts). So it begs the questions... did RP bring over a bunch of NVA/LS girls with him, that did not have to tryout?

There is no 2014 ECNL team until next year at U13. There is only 2014 PA1 and PA2 (pre-ECNL). I think the conversation you are referencing is the number of outside players that got offered for the 2026-27 ECNL team for U13.

The question perhaps you want answered is on the girls side, did any PA2 players make next year’s ECNL team.

Obviously I meant next year. No my question was if 5-6 outside players made that team, were they NVA transplants that RP is bringing over? Because there were maybe 5-6 outside girls trying out and only a couple made any impression at the tryouts. So who are these supposed outsiders? I suspect it is NVA.

he did bring at least one over

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the 2014 ECNL team no RL players moved into the top team, right? But on this thread someone confirmed that they brought in 5-6 new players (there were barely that many new players at the tryouts). So it begs the questions... did RP bring over a bunch of NVA/LS girls with him, that did not have to tryout?

There is no 2014 ECNL team until next year at U13. There is only 2014 PA1 and PA2 (pre-ECNL). I think the conversation you are referencing is the number of outside players that got offered for the 2026-27 ECNL team for U13.

The question perhaps you want answered is on the girls side, did any PA2 players make next year’s ECNL team.

Obviously I meant next year. No my question was if 5-6 outside players made that team, were they NVA transplants that RP is bringing over? Because there were maybe 5-6 outside girls trying out and only a couple made any impression at the tryouts. So who are these supposed outsiders? I suspect it is NVA.

Anonymous wrote:I can only speak for BSC but I assure you, as an RL parent, that at the HS ages the difference is unbridgeable. You can’t even tell who the starting 11 should be on NL. On RL, at any age, there is pretty much no one who can make the move, unless they are a true dominant physical presence. Skills doesn’t cut it. The only girl moved up last year is huge, fast, with a giant shot. But in the midfield or on D, the gap in game IQ, speed of play, and physicality is just too big by this age.

RL parents can focus too much on how good the team was at U13 and younger rather than where will their child get better from U14 to U19.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. But instead of bringing on someone you see 3 times in a tryout and know nothing about, look to the team below and ask the coach for their best 1-2 players. Why is there no path to promotion. Why are they not trying to develop RL kids to be ECNL kids. Why not take a chance on a known kid instead of an unknown. Maybe they aren’t good enough or ready, but they don’t know if the kid from outside the club is ready either yet they continue to give them a shot instead of a comparable kid within the club. And that is what frustrates every good RL kid and family.

They do this all the time. Coaches label 2nd team players all the time and find 1 or 2 bad traits and that stigma sticks. However, they can't resist a player they know nothing about, who comes to a few tryouts/ practices/ or ID sessions and hand over an offer.

So be the new kid at another club and get put on the first team.

Anonymous wrote:Agree. But instead of bringing on someone you see 3 times in a tryout and know nothing about, look to the team below and ask the coach for their best 1-2 players. Why is there no path to promotion. Why are they not trying to develop RL kids to be ECNL kids. Why not take a chance on a known kid instead of an unknown. Maybe they aren’t good enough or ready, but they don’t know if the kid from outside the club is ready either yet they continue to give them a shot instead of a comparable kid within the club. And that is what frustrates every good RL kid and family.

They do this all the time. Coaches label 2nd team players all the time and find 1 or 2 bad traits and that stigma sticks. However, they can't resist a player they know nothing about, who comes to a few tryouts/ practices/ or ID sessions and hand over an offer.

Anonymous wrote:For the 2014 ECNL team no RL players moved into the top team, right? But on this thread someone confirmed that they brought in 5-6 new players (there were barely that many new players at the tryouts). So it begs the questions... did RP bring over a bunch of NVA/LS girls with him, that did not have to tryout?

There is no 2014 ECNL team until next year at U13. There is only 2014 PA1 and PA2 (pre-ECNL). I think the conversation you are referencing is the number of outside players that got offered for the 2026-27 ECNL team for U13.

The question perhaps you want answered is on the girls side, did any PA2 players make next year’s ECNL team.

For the 2014 ECNL team no RL players moved into the top team, right? But on this thread someone confirmed that they brought in 5-6 new players (there were barely that many new players at the tryouts). So it begs the questions... did RP bring over a bunch of NVA/LS girls with him, that did not have to tryout?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is usually zero difference in skill between the Kid 12-22 on the ECNL team and Kids 1-10 on the RL team.

Which is why you see so few RL kids move up. They won’t be difference makers. They are forever stuck in RL.

I only have experience at the U13 level, and this is true. Our club seems to view all 2nd team players with lots of prejudice. They seem to have labeled each of the top 2nd team players with some deficit did not move one player up. But at the same time, they took outside players onto the 1st teams.

2nd team Coaches seem to be stringing players/ families along saying there will be opportunities to move up next year. But, we just had 3x U14 2nd team families leave for other clubs and they were all offered 1st team spots. I guess they got tired to being shafted and I suspect we will get shafted too this next year.

Anonymous wrote:There is usually zero difference in skill between the Kid 12-22 on the ECNL team and Kids 1-10 on the RL team.

Which is why you see so few RL kids move up. They won’t be difference makers. They are forever stuck in RL.

I can only speak for BSC but I assure you, as an RL parent, that at the HS ages the difference is unbridgeable. You can’t even tell who the starting 11 should be on NL. On RL, at any age, there is pretty much no one who can make the move, unless they are a true dominant physical presence. Skills doesn’t cut it. The only girl moved up last year is huge, fast, with a giant shot. But in the midfield or on D, the gap in game IQ, speed of play, and physicality is just too big by this age.