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Anonymous wrote:Since there are accommodations for lots of things, why can’t my kid get one since he has issues with staying on task when on a laptop?? And I know he is not alone.

It doesn’t really matter. Teachers are not prepared to teach without devices and technology, they just aren’t. One kid having an IEP to not use a device isn’t going to change how the teacher instructs the class and interaction with students or the work they do. That kid will just be given some generic afterthought worksheet. Not only do devices need to be out of classes, there needs to be a systematic change to how teachers are teaching. It is so bad.

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The resistance to change from teachers is so telling. They are addicted to edtech

It’s no the 90s anymore. “Edtech” is now and will always be apart education it’s been like this for the last 10-15 years.

I don’t buy this, entire countries are going back to textbooks because the evidence that edtech doesn’t help education is overwhelming.

Is thar true boo?

It's pretty obvious as outcomes have gotten worse since 2010 when schools started implementing them. Edtech has a clear record of failing kids.

Correlation isn't causation, dipsht.

NP here. It's fine if you don't, but many researchers think the relationship between Edtech/smartphones and declining educational outcomes is causal, not just correlation. What is your hypothesis?

I’m not the poster you are responding to. While I agree most tech use in schools should go, I think that it isn’t just tech use in schools causing the declining educational outcomes. It is use at home AND schools. I think you can make a little bit of headway when you get rid of tech in schools, but use outside of school needs to be banned as well. The stakes are too high and the attention span of children will keep eroding if we allow tech use outside of school. THE devices were designed to interrupt thought. The reason why you get a flashing pop up in the right corner of the screen is because our reptilian brain sees it better there and will immediately respond. We are primed right now to respond to tech. If you just ban it in schools, you are not going to defeat the problem.

Taxpayer dollars are going to the use in schools. Also, when students HAVE to use devices for their homework it is literally impossible for parents to ban them at home. Be the change you want to see in the world. Bashing parents to distract from how terrible edtech is, is disgusting. Stop being disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:Since there are accommodations for lots of things, why can’t my kid get one since he has issues with staying on task when on a laptop?? And I know he is not alone.

It doesn’t really matter. Teachers are not prepared to teach without devices and technology, they just aren’t. One kid having an IEP to not use a device isn’t going to change how the teacher instructs the class and interaction with students or the work they do. That kid will just be given some generic afterthought worksheet. Not only do devices need to be out of classes, there needs to be a systematic change to how teachers are teaching. It is so bad.

+1000

The resistance to change from teachers is so telling. They are addicted to edtech

It’s no the 90s anymore. “Edtech” is now and will always be apart education it’s been like this for the last 10-15 years.

I don’t buy this, entire countries are going back to textbooks because the evidence that edtech doesn’t help education is overwhelming.

Is thar true boo?

It's pretty obvious as outcomes have gotten worse since 2010 when schools started implementing them. Edtech has a clear record of failing kids.

Correlation isn't causation, dipsht.

NP here. It's fine if you don't, but many researchers think the relationship between Edtech/smartphones and declining educational outcomes is causal, not just correlation. What is your hypothesis?

I’m not the poster you are responding to. While I agree most tech use in schools should go, I think that it isn’t just tech use in schools causing the declining educational outcomes. It is use at home AND schools. I think you can make a little bit of headway when you get rid of tech in schools, but use outside of school needs to be banned as well. The stakes are too high and the attention span of children will keep eroding if we allow tech use outside of school. THE devices were designed to interrupt thought. The reason why you get a flashing pop up in the right corner of the screen is because our reptilian brain sees it better there and will immediately respond. We are primed right now to respond to tech. If you just ban it in schools, you are not going to defeat the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Lexia is an excellent, science-backed supplemental tool that builds reading/phonics skills.

It’s not meant to replace teaching and It’s not as great as 1:1 for remediation but it’s still beneficial in some ways to most kids.

Same for a lot of the other tools. Great ways to supplement teaching and get extra practice.

It’s not an all or nothing situation.

Ok, buts it’s a supplement. The problem is there is no actual teaching being done. They can do lexia at home. At school, when they are with a teacher, there should be actual teaching happening.

1- I hate Lexia
2- no, their siblings or parents to LExia for them at home, so they can’t do it at home, it always comes back 8 levels higher than what the kid can actually do
3- at school, when the classroom teacher is told they have to be the classroom teacher AND the intervention teacher for kids who need more support how is this happening with fidelity to the intervention? Those kids get to meet 2x a day with the classroom teacher and what are the other kids doing? (Going into their backpacks to look at the phones the parents gave them!)

4- Why are teachers and schools the only ones to blame for this? Why aren’t parents required to parent and not give phone access until 15? Why are Kindergarten kids running around going 6-7 all day? Why is it up to teachers and teachers alone to teach social skills? Why can parents bring tablets to the grocery store, a restaurant, in the car and teachers responsible for teaching kids how to slow down and interact with others?

This isn’t just why are SCHOOLS doing this, the finger needs to be pointed at ALL of us.

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Anonymous wrote:I also wish teachers went back to blackboard and chalk instead of PowerPoint, smart boards and dry erase boards. The contrast of the blackboard and chalk is easier to view and it is multi sensorial. This is an interesting article about the education benefits of a chalkboard- while I wouldn’t have been able to articulate this myself, it makes perfect sense to how I feel about it. While it’s geared toward college students- I think it is relevant to elementary as well

https://compasspubindonesia.com/blogs/2025/11/17/why-teaching-with-chalk-and-blackboard-is-more-effective/

Totally agree. There was also a study about how college students that took notes with own and paper instead of a laptop learned more.

Reducing edtech in schools is an important fight. No parent should have to worry about their kid being exposed to porn at school from another kid's school issued device, not to mention being forced to constantly use a distracting Internet connected device when they are supposed to be learning. Parents should not give up.

Teacher here and I am not sure why a dry erase board is worse than a chalkboard. I use my tv as a digital chalkboard. I have an iPad that I write that is screen mirrored to the tv. As I write all the kindergartners can see proper letter formation as I write without my body blocking their view. I can also always face the kids and correct their hand writing as we go because I don’t turn my back on them. I don’t use it for slide decks, books or any other tech except movement videos/ brain breaks. Can you explain why this isn’t an improvement over a chalk board.

It is pretty clear after you bother to do some basic research, which you are clearly not interested in given you didn't even bother to read the article

Did you read it? The first picture under the title is a kid on a dry erase board. The article never mentions dry erase boards va chalk boards. Only you did that. So you can continue to yell that no one is reading the article, but you aren’t understanding much about your position or the article.

Chalkboards are have an advantage over whiteboards because there is more contrast so it is easier on people's eyes.

Not having the screen in the classroom is better than having it in the classroom because it means kids aren't watching videos (like the "brain breaks") at schools every day. Screens are addictive, kids know what they can do, and that is distracting. It sounds like it barely adds any value to your classroom anyway. Use the money to send home actual books

Using a chalk board also slows writing speed. The cadence of writing is just different on chalk board vs white board. Plus there is an auditory component: you can hear when the teacher starts and stops writing, you can hear the strokes of the letters. I can absolutely see how this seems so minor but can make a big difference in how information is transmitted

Well, I can’t argue that IF kids are quiet they can hear the chalk on the board, but the teacher’s body will still be in the way of the formation of the letters. If you are teaching the formation of letters on a chalkboard or white board, I still think having the teacher not blocking the view of the letters is a good thing. And yes, this is how FUNdations and many other phonics programs work. The teacher is writing on the board to show how to form the letters and the kids practice it. THe idea is that kids need to develop a motor plan to form the letters and it should be standardized to help the kids gain speed as they become more adept at writing. EG writing a letter any which way you choose isn’t important. In the early grades, the “cadence” of the chalk on the board isn’t adding to the most important detail of learning to write.

It does seem really really minor given the decibel level of a primary aged classroom. To convince me of its importance in a primary classroom over a teacher blocking the board, please give links.

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Anonymous wrote:Since there are accommodations for lots of things, why can’t my kid get one since he has issues with staying on task when on a laptop?? And I know he is not alone.

It doesn’t really matter. Teachers are not prepared to teach without devices and technology, they just aren’t. One kid having an IEP to not use a device isn’t going to change how the teacher instructs the class and interaction with students or the work they do. That kid will just be given some generic afterthought worksheet. Not only do devices need to be out of classes, there needs to be a systematic change to how teachers are teaching. It is so bad.

+1000

The resistance to change from teachers is so telling. They are addicted to edtech

It’s no the 90s anymore. “Edtech” is now and will always be apart education it’s been like this for the last 10-15 years.

I don’t buy this, entire countries are going back to textbooks because the evidence that edtech doesn’t help education is overwhelming.

Is thar true boo?

It's pretty obvious as outcomes have gotten worse since 2010 when schools started implementing them. Edtech has a clear record of failing kids.

Correlation isn't causation, dipsht.

NP here. It's fine if you don't, but many researchers think the relationship between Edtech/smartphones and declining educational outcomes is causal, not just correlation. What is your hypothesis?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and I’d love for you to get rid of the stupid slides from the county that I have to teach from. Good luck and you have my support. But I have my own life and don’t want to spend my free time fighting with my employer.

Nobody expects you to do that. That is what unions are for. Unions have so much power in our district. They basically choose who is on the Board of Education. Parents also can and should also advocate, knowing that parents have successfully advocated for important changes like reading curricula.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Since there are accommodations for lots of things, why can’t my kid get one since he has issues with staying on task when on a laptop?? And I know he is not alone.

It doesn’t really matter. Teachers are not prepared to teach without devices and technology, they just aren’t. One kid having an IEP to not use a device isn’t going to change how the teacher instructs the class and interaction with students or the work they do. That kid will just be given some generic afterthought worksheet. Not only do devices need to be out of classes, there needs to be a systematic change to how teachers are teaching. It is so bad.

+1000

The resistance to change from teachers is so telling. They are addicted to edtech

It’s no the 90s anymore. “Edtech” is now and will always be apart education it’s been like this for the last 10-15 years.

I don’t buy this, entire countries are going back to textbooks because the evidence that edtech doesn’t help education is overwhelming.

Is thar true boo?

It's pretty obvious as outcomes have gotten worse since 2010 when schools started implementing them. Edtech has a clear record of failing kids.

Correlation isn't causation, dipsht.

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Anonymous wrote:I also wish teachers went back to blackboard and chalk instead of PowerPoint, smart boards and dry erase boards. The contrast of the blackboard and chalk is easier to view and it is multi sensorial. This is an interesting article about the education benefits of a chalkboard- while I wouldn’t have been able to articulate this myself, it makes perfect sense to how I feel about it. While it’s geared toward college students- I think it is relevant to elementary as well

https://compasspubindonesia.com/blogs/2025/11/17/why-teaching-with-chalk-and-blackboard-is-more-effective/

Totally agree. There was also a study about how college students that took notes with own and paper instead of a laptop learned more.

Reducing edtech in schools is an important fight. No parent should have to worry about their kid being exposed to porn at school from another kid's school issued device, not to mention being forced to constantly use a distracting Internet connected device when they are supposed to be learning. Parents should not give up.

Teacher here and I am not sure why a dry erase board is worse than a chalkboard. I use my tv as a digital chalkboard. I have an iPad that I write that is screen mirrored to the tv. As I write all the kindergartners can see proper letter formation as I write without my body blocking their view. I can also always face the kids and correct their hand writing as we go because I don’t turn my back on them. I don’t use it for slide decks, books or any other tech except movement videos/ brain breaks. Can you explain why this isn’t an improvement over a chalk board.

It is pretty clear after you bother to do some basic research, which you are clearly not interested in given you didn't even bother to read the article

Did you read it? The first picture under the title is a kid on a dry erase board. The article never mentions dry erase boards va chalk boards. Only you did that. So you can continue to yell that no one is reading the article, but you aren’t understanding much about your position or the article.

Chalkboards are have an advantage over whiteboards because there is more contrast so it is easier on people's eyes.

Not having the screen in the classroom is better than having it in the classroom because it means kids aren't watching videos (like the "brain breaks") at schools every day. Screens are addictive, kids know what they can do, and that is distracting. It sounds like it barely adds any value to your classroom anyway. Use the money to send home actual books

Chalkboards also have chalk and dust that some people are allergic to. My second grade teacher couldn’t touch the stuff. We used a lot of overheads in the 80s so teachers could write in color when highlighting and underlining etc. It wasn’t addictive. White boards aren’t addictive and even my color blind kid can read the white board colors.

No, I can’t just order books. Teachers are not able to control the budget of the school with the 50 bucks the PTA gives them.

You are stuck in the mindset that schools need to be the fix for societal issues once again. If screens are so instantly addictive why are you participating in online forums and using your phone/device to do so?

Screens being addictive is actually not the main problem of EdTech. The problem is literally that it is ineffective at teaching. Kids need to be reading books, writing, taking notes, organizing words, thoughts, numbers on paper. The teacher need to be giving direct instruction in class, not slides and Quizlet, Gimkit stuff.

+1. It’s like they completely forgot how to teach!

The teachers coming out of ED school now are taught to teach using iPads and apps. They literally do not know how to teach without “technology tools.” They haven’t been taught.

Correct. Always,always request the oldest teacher for your kids. The older the better. It doesn’t matter that your daughter loves Miss Honey and thinks she’s so pretty, she’s going to learn infinitely more from Mrs. Frownyface.

Haha. I love this. But there are very few of them still in teaching.

They are at Catholic schools and some independent schools.

Our public experience has all been rah-rah sorority Ed majors. Most of them can barely write themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Lexia is an excellent, science-backed supplemental tool that builds reading/phonics skills.

It’s not meant to replace teaching and It’s not as great as 1:1 for remediation but it’s still beneficial in some ways to most kids.

Same for a lot of the other tools. Great ways to supplement teaching and get extra practice.

It’s not an all or nothing situation.

Ok, buts it’s a supplement. The problem is there is no actual teaching being done. They can do lexia at home. At school, when they are with a teacher, there should be actual teaching happening.

If we assign it at home, most parents will not follow through.

That’s fine. It’s a supplement. It should be extra. It shouldn’t be relied upon as a crutch to teach.

It’s not assigned to everyone - only the kids very behind so yes they do it at school or it won’t get done.

But the kids are behind are the ones that should be using less EdTech less, not more. The science behind Lexia and other programs is a big flop. They aren’t helping. Kids are doing worse.

Lexia teaches basic phonics and decoding. If kids are behind on that, the teacher does not have the time to remediate them. The parents, a tutor, or a reading teacher will need to do that. We have a room full of other kids we are teaching on grade level.

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Anonymous wrote:Lexia is an excellent, science-backed supplemental tool that builds reading/phonics skills.

It’s not meant to replace teaching and It’s not as great as 1:1 for remediation but it’s still beneficial in some ways to most kids.

Same for a lot of the other tools. Great ways to supplement teaching and get extra practice.

It’s not an all or nothing situation.

Ok, buts it’s a supplement. The problem is there is no actual teaching being done. They can do lexia at home. At school, when they are with a teacher, there should be actual teaching happening.

If we assign it at home, most parents will not follow through.

True, when Ed tech is assigned, I always ask for an alternative assignment. If they don’t respond, we submit an alternative assignment of our choosing. Be the change you want to see. Also considering send in a book and asking for kid to read during “tablet time” at school.

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Anonymous wrote:Since there are accommodations for lots of things, why can’t my kid get one since he has issues with staying on task when on a laptop?? And I know he is not alone.

It doesn’t really matter. Teachers are not prepared to teach without devices and technology, they just aren’t. One kid having an IEP to not use a device isn’t going to change how the teacher instructs the class and interaction with students or the work they do. That kid will just be given some generic afterthought worksheet. Not only do devices need to be out of classes, there needs to be a systematic change to how teachers are teaching. It is so bad.

+1000

The resistance to change from teachers is so telling. They are addicted to edtech

It’s no the 90s anymore. “Edtech” is now and will always be apart education it’s been like this for the last 10-15 years.

I don’t buy this, entire countries are going back to textbooks because the evidence that edtech doesn’t help education is overwhelming.

Is thar true boo?

It's pretty obvious as outcomes have gotten worse since 2010 when schools started implementing them. Edtech has a clear record of failing kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Since there are accommodations for lots of things, why can’t my kid get one since he has issues with staying on task when on a laptop?? And I know he is not alone.

It doesn’t really matter. Teachers are not prepared to teach without devices and technology, they just aren’t. One kid having an IEP to not use a device isn’t going to change how the teacher instructs the class and interaction with students or the work they do. That kid will just be given some generic afterthought worksheet. Not only do devices need to be out of classes, there needs to be a systematic change to how teachers are teaching. It is so bad.

+1000

The resistance to change from teachers is so telling. They are addicted to edtech

It’s no the 90s anymore. “Edtech” is now and will always be apart education it’s been like this for the last 10-15 years.

I don’t buy this, entire countries are going back to textbooks because the evidence that edtech doesn’t help education is overwhelming.

Is thar true boo?

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Anonymous wrote:Since there are accommodations for lots of things, why can’t my kid get one since he has issues with staying on task when on a laptop?? And I know he is not alone.

It doesn’t really matter. Teachers are not prepared to teach without devices and technology, they just aren’t. One kid having an IEP to not use a device isn’t going to change how the teacher instructs the class and interaction with students or the work they do. That kid will just be given some generic afterthought worksheet. Not only do devices need to be out of classes, there needs to be a systematic change to how teachers are teaching. It is so bad.

+1000

The resistance to change from teachers is so telling. They are addicted to edtech

It’s no the 90s anymore. “Edtech” is now and will always be apart education it’s been like this for the last 10-15 years.

I don’t buy this, entire countries are going back to textbooks because the evidence that edtech doesn’t help education is overwhelming.

Get a life, Camille.

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Anonymous wrote:Since there are accommodations for lots of things, why can’t my kid get one since he has issues with staying on task when on a laptop?? And I know he is not alone.

It doesn’t really matter. Teachers are not prepared to teach without devices and technology, they just aren’t. One kid having an IEP to not use a device isn’t going to change how the teacher instructs the class and interaction with students or the work they do. That kid will just be given some generic afterthought worksheet. Not only do devices need to be out of classes, there needs to be a systematic change to how teachers are teaching. It is so bad.

+1000

The resistance to change from teachers is so telling. They are addicted to edtech

It’s no the 90s anymore. “Edtech” is now and will always be apart education it’s been like this for the last 10-15 years.