Anonymous wrote:I'm done. Don't care what happens to this country. If 40% of Americans support Trump, then live in a land of morons. I'm not going to pay for it
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am old enough to remember when Joe Biden started locking up right wing pundits for absolutely no reason. the right went apoplectic over abuse of the DOJ and basic First Amendment rights.
Oh wait, that wasn't Joe Biden, it was Donald Trump, when he had Don Lemon incarcerated.
Dinesh d'Souza, Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon wave hello.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am old enough to remember when Joe Biden started locking up right wing pundits for absolutely no reason. the right went apoplectic over abuse of the DOJ and basic First Amendment rights.
Oh wait, that wasn't Joe Biden, it was Donald Trump, when he had Don Lemon incarcerated.
Dinesh d'Souza, Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon wave hello.
You're a disingenuous liar.
Unlike Lemon, D'Souza, Navarro and Bannon committed actual crimes and these were proven in court through evidence. It wasn't about mere "political opposition."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think people admire that Trump is making change when we’ve have past Dem Presidents telling us we can’t have x, y, z thing (ie lower healthcare costs, bodily freedom of choice, lower cost of higher ed) bc of a, b, c reason (ie that changes the status quo, the GOP would
Never let us, etc etc).
Now, Trump’s choice of X, Y, Z thing to focus on are pretty much all terrible changes. But they are dramatic changes nonetheless.
I am so hoping for a new crop of Dems to emerge willing to use his authoritarian style to do good in this world instead of Trump’s endless self-enrichment and grandiose gestures.
Heck, I'll settle for a new crop of Dems who are less focused on pandering to extreme views and take more moderate approaches like Clinton and Obama did.
But there are huge structural changes that are needed to address our problems with housing, healthcare, bodily rights. I don’t think a moderate is up to the job of addressing these. In fact, Clinton and Obama “moderate” policies are part of what has gotten us here. Reagan did a lot of undermining of our social systems that we have never recovered from (and that Clinton and Obama continued). We’ve now tried out “trickle down” and private health insurance reform and they haven’t worked. We need change. (Just not Trump change).
We can want and need this all we like. But when the current Dems are not popular enough to win over folks away from Trump, we are stuck. Again, no one is disputing facts here—it’s just that they aren’t relevant. People whose votes they need to win do not feel heard by the Dems. Until we can stop talking about how right we are and how wrong they are, it’s going to get worse. That’s what I can’t understand about Dems right now. Trump is not an accident.
This is exactly it. Exactly. Nothing else will change until this is fully embraced.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am old enough to remember when Joe Biden started locking up right wing pundits for absolutely no reason. the right went apoplectic over abuse of the DOJ and basic First Amendment rights.
Oh wait, that wasn't Joe Biden, it was Donald Trump, when he had Don Lemon incarcerated.
Dinesh d'Souza, Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon wave hello.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think people admire that Trump is making change when we’ve have past Dem Presidents telling us we can’t have x, y, z thing (ie lower healthcare costs, bodily freedom of choice, lower cost of higher ed) bc of a, b, c reason (ie that changes the status quo, the GOP would
Never let us, etc etc).
Now, Trump’s choice of X, Y, Z thing to focus on are pretty much all terrible changes. But they are dramatic changes nonetheless.
I am so hoping for a new crop of Dems to emerge willing to use his authoritarian style to do good in this world instead of Trump’s endless self-enrichment and grandiose gestures.
Heck, I'll settle for a new crop of Dems who are less focused on pandering to extreme views and take more moderate approaches like Clinton and Obama did.
But there are huge structural changes that are needed to address our problems with housing, healthcare, bodily rights. I don’t think a moderate is up to the job of addressing these. In fact, Clinton and Obama “moderate” policies are part of what has gotten us here. Reagan did a lot of undermining of our social systems that we have never recovered from (and that Clinton and Obama continued). We’ve now tried out “trickle down” and private health insurance reform and they haven’t worked. We need change. (Just not Trump change).
We can want and need this all we like. But when the current Dems are not popular enough to win over folks away from Trump, we are stuck. Again, no one is disputing facts here—it’s just that they aren’t relevant. People whose votes they need to win do not feel heard by the Dems. Until we can stop talking about how right we are and how wrong they are, it’s going to get worse. That’s what I can’t understand about Dems right now. Trump is not an accident.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am old enough to remember when Joe Biden started locking up right wing pundits for absolutely no reason. the right went apoplectic over abuse of the DOJ and basic First Amendment rights.
Oh wait, that wasn't Joe Biden, it was Donald Trump, when he had Don Lemon incarcerated.
Dinesh d'Souza, Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon wave hello.
Anonymous wrote:I am old enough to remember when Joe Biden started locking up right wing pundits for absolutely no reason. the right went apoplectic over abuse of the DOJ and basic First Amendment rights.
Oh wait, that wasn't Joe Biden, it was Donald Trump, when he had Don Lemon incarcerated.