Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 09:27     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS is in!
CA private (we are an ex-DMV family)
3.6 GPA, 34 ACT
Econ/History
full pay

Very relieved. This semester isn't going well for DS and he's facing a possible C, so we're really happy to have this admission in hand and be done with college admissions before his GPA travels south!



Basically similar stats but from MA. Deferred.

DP. I'd love to figure out the differentiator, why some are accepted and some deferred. Presumably you are also full pay. Random thoughts: maybe the high school or rank? I'm just shooting in the dark; my kid is looking to apply next year.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 09:18     Subject: Michigan ED is out
It might matter but there’s more to the story - lots of LSA kids deferred at kid’s school including undersubscribed niche majors. Kids with stats who naviance showed were admitted every previous year on the scattergram.

Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 09:00     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Could anyone elaborate on undersubscribed majors? Seeing a lot of OOS LSA kids deferred - not just engineering and Ross. Did it matter what you were majoring in within LSA? Or are people saying the other undersubscribed schools (kinesiology, nursing, education etc) are getting in? That makes more sense to me if Michigan reads by school and those are direct admit and you are stuck there - no one applied to those schools from my kid’s OOS private that I am aware so I have no anecdotal data.

What doesn’t track for me is I thought the small schools mentioned above have an even lower acceptance rate so are not actually undersubscribed.

So my thought is undersubscribed majors in-state kids? Or a particular in-state demographic profile? Maybe? Grasping at straws here.


Do not assume smaller college are undersubscribed. Some are harder to get into that LSA because there are fewer seats. Kinesiology, for example, is a harder admit bc of size and one of the programs is a prehealth pathway.


Yes, I said that in my post when I wrote, “I thought the small schools mentioned above had an even lower acceptance rate so are not actually undersubscribed.” My understanding is all the smaller colleges are supposed to be harder admits than LSA.

Also, I have not heard of an admit in the smaller schools (granted, I think the sample size is small too). So it mattered what a kid said about LSA major even though that is not binding? I still feel like I am missing something.

I am thinking it must have been demographics.


Major matters at every selective school. Even though it is not binding - what you put down matters in how they shape a class. Why?

They have huge departments that need kids to teach. They want more kids in these majors to justify the faculty expense.

Talk to some folks inside selective admissions, and they will tell you the scoop. Listen to some podcasts. The major absolutely absolutely matters as an institutional priority, even though it is not binding.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 08:53     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Could anyone elaborate on undersubscribed majors? Seeing a lot of OOS LSA kids deferred - not just engineering and Ross. Did it matter what you were majoring in within LSA? Or are people saying the other undersubscribed schools (kinesiology, nursing, education etc) are getting in? That makes more sense to me if Michigan reads by school and those are direct admit and you are stuck there - no one applied to those schools from my kid’s OOS private that I am aware so I have no anecdotal data.

What doesn’t track for me is I thought the small schools mentioned above have an even lower acceptance rate so are not actually undersubscribed.

So my thought is undersubscribed majors in-state kids? Or a particular in-state demographic profile? Maybe? Grasping at straws here.


Do not assume smaller college are undersubscribed. Some are harder to get into that LSA because there are fewer seats. Kinesiology, for example, is a harder admit bc of size and one of the programs is a prehealth pathway.


Yes, I said that in my post when I wrote, “I thought the small schools mentioned above had an even lower acceptance rate so are not actually undersubscribed.” My understanding is all the smaller colleges are supposed to be harder admits than LSA.

Also, I have not heard of an admit in the smaller schools (granted, I think the sample size is small too). So it mattered what a kid said about LSA major even though that is not binding? I still feel like I am missing something.

I am thinking it must have been demographics.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 08:35     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Anonymous wrote:Could anyone elaborate on undersubscribed majors? Seeing a lot of OOS LSA kids deferred - not just engineering and Ross. Did it matter what you were majoring in within LSA? Or are people saying the other undersubscribed schools (kinesiology, nursing, education etc) are getting in? That makes more sense to me if Michigan reads by school and those are direct admit and you are stuck there - no one applied to those schools from my kid’s OOS private that I am aware so I have no anecdotal data.

What doesn’t track for me is I thought the small schools mentioned above have an even lower acceptance rate so are not actually undersubscribed.

So my thought is undersubscribed majors in-state kids? Or a particular in-state demographic profile? Maybe? Grasping at straws here.


Yes the major within LSA matters.

It’s a 550 word essay and you’re supposed to list multiple academic interests. They can tell if it’s a real interest or not. I know the kids that got into LSA:

English
Jewish Studies
Women’s and gender studies
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 08:33     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Anonymous wrote:Could anyone elaborate on undersubscribed majors? Seeing a lot of OOS LSA kids deferred - not just engineering and Ross. Did it matter what you were majoring in within LSA? Or are people saying the other undersubscribed schools (kinesiology, nursing, education etc) are getting in? That makes more sense to me if Michigan reads by school and those are direct admit and you are stuck there - no one applied to those schools from my kid’s OOS private that I am aware so I have no anecdotal data.

What doesn’t track for me is I thought the small schools mentioned above have an even lower acceptance rate so are not actually undersubscribed.

So my thought is undersubscribed majors in-state kids? Or a particular in-state demographic profile? Maybe? Grasping at straws here.


Do not assume smaller college are undersubscribed. Some are harder to get into that LSA because there are fewer seats. Kinesiology, for example, is a harder admit bc of size and one of the programs is a prehealth pathway.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 08:26     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Could anyone elaborate on undersubscribed majors? Seeing a lot of OOS LSA kids deferred - not just engineering and Ross. Did it matter what you were majoring in within LSA? Or are people saying the other undersubscribed schools (kinesiology, nursing, education etc) are getting in? That makes more sense to me if Michigan reads by school and those are direct admit and you are stuck there - no one applied to those schools from my kid’s OOS private that I am aware so I have no anecdotal data.

What doesn’t track for me is I thought the small schools mentioned above have an even lower acceptance rate so are not actually undersubscribed.

So my thought is undersubscribed majors in-state kids? Or a particular in-state demographic profile? Maybe? Grasping at straws here.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 08:21     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Anonymous wrote:DS is in!
CA private (we are an ex-DMV family)
3.6 GPA, 34 ACT
Econ/History
full pay

Very relieved. This semester isn't going well for DS and he's facing a possible C, so we're really happy to have this admission in hand and be done with college admissions before his GPA travels south!



Basically similar stats but from MA. Deferred.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 08:17     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Anonymous wrote:The kids we know who got in early action last year were all the 4.0 unloaded, double digit AP class, submit a very good standardized test score type of kid who also was involved in some sort of leadership. I’m highly skeptical that they are taking 3.4 GPA applicants at this stage.


high schools are very different. we're at a top 20 high school (in America) and there is one 4.0 every 3 or 4 years. 3.8 gets you into plenty of T20 schools (including MIT last year). 3.5 gets you into Umich. Not sure about 3.4, but possible with right major.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 08:13     Subject: Michigan ED is out
The kids we know who got in early action last year were all the 4.0 unloaded, double digit AP class, submit a very good standardized test score type of kid who also was involved in some sort of leadership. I’m highly skeptical that they are taking 3.4 GPA applicants at this stage.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 08:10     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3.91 GPA, 1510 SAT, 11 AP 5s, In-state, president of key club. Child got flat out rejected from LSA today. We're currently distraught.


That is terrible! I’m sorry. Seems so wrong your kid got rejected while much lower stats kids from OOS are getting in. What other schools are they hoping for?


Typically, out of state kids have higher stats than in-state kids at UM. Some of what I am seeing reported is rather suspicious.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 08:05     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Anonymous wrote:3.91 GPA, 1510 SAT, 11 AP 5s, In-state, president of key club. Child got flat out rejected from LSA today. We're currently distraught.


That is terrible! I’m sorry. Seems so wrong your kid got rejected while much lower stats kids from OOS are getting in. What other schools are they hoping for?
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 08:01     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Kind of shocked to see these responses of kids with <3.8 GPA and <1500 SAT getting in OOS.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 07:54     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, seems like U Mich may have misread the situation. Early decision is a different deal than early action. Future applicants are not going to want to burn their ED option next year on Michigan given the high deferral rate.


Correct, but it’s not that.

After the football coaching scandal, NO ONE will apply to U.Mich next year.



No one cares
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2025 07:53     Subject: Michigan ED is out
Anonymous wrote:MCPS W school
3.4 GPA
Full pay
ACT 33
male



Troll. No way 3.4 is getting in with all these 4.0 1550/35++ kids getting deferred. Also, everyone is full pay OOS.