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Anonymous wrote:Yes there are because while a man who is say 35 can have up to 3 quality women to choose from, the same cannot be said for women. And I say this as guy who recently got married. I am 38 and I have more friends that are single than married. For most of them their current girlfriends or the ones they have dated in the past have or have had better career than them.

Men drop out of the dating market if they are not happy in their career. Unfortunately we see a very disturbing trend among men between 30 and 45. They are chronically underemployed, have substance abuse issues, and in poor physical and mental shape
And they have significantly less friends than men their peers in the past. Career satisfaction is really important for a man's ego. If he feels that he has been a failure career wise, he is very unlikely to enter the dating market. So women are waiting for men that don't exist today and that will probably not exist tomorrow either.

I think a lot of women will sadly end up single forever. Not because they are picky or not trying hard enough, but because there are simply not enough qiality men to choose from.

Now I am sure you have taken stats 101, so.if you are the exception I am not talking about you. You are an outlier.

It's funny that as I'm reading this, I'm wishing I was one of those ladies who never got married. Marriage sucks badly for women. Like really badly. I was so much better off emotionally, financially, in every way before I let DH put a ring on it and suck the joy from me. The marriage rate is going to get a lot lower because there's just very little in it for a woman who has her shit together.

Ill probably surprised some of you with my comments but you are right. We have a daughter who is in college. While I think myself as a great husband, I am aware of my shortcomings. And if my daughter's choice is to marry a man like me she is better of staying single. I say this because after many years I now realize how much DW has been the one keeping the marriage alive. There are fantastic husbands our there who put in equal efforts, but I don't know if they are the majority though.

So, you're aware that you're a shitty husband dragging down the team, but you have no intention of doing anything beyond continuing as you have. How do men like you feel no shame? It's a serious question because my ex was a shamelessly selfish idiot too and I always thought to myself that if I were him, my conscience wouldn't let me be such a user. But he felt perfectly good about himself.

Calm down lady. You have a lot anger in you. He was self reflecting and is probably doing the work and realizing he still needs to keep improving. Can you imagine if every husband self reflected? Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:A well put together resume, doesn’t mean a put together woman or wife.

A woman who is single (not divorced) at that age is finally willing to settle for a man who checks the majority of boxes, but isn’t perfect. They are the female equivalent of a man child- self centered, critical and looking for someone to meet the needs they delayed for years. Most are not great partners, but are very successful and can be great people to hang out with as friends.

Close, but not quite. The males are looking for someone to exploit for sex and live-in maid services. The women are typically looking to have kids and tolerating the man is just a necessary evil to accomplish that.

If it is as you described, then they should just go to the sperm bank. Of course, it is not as you described though, but you're not honest.

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Anonymous wrote:A well put together resume, doesn’t mean a put together woman or wife.

A woman who is single (not divorced) at that age is finally willing to settle for a man who checks the majority of boxes, but isn’t perfect. They are the female equivalent of a man child- self centered, critical and looking for someone to meet the needs they delayed for years. Most are not great partners, but are very successful and can be great people to hang out with as friends.

Close, but not quite. The males are looking for someone to exploit for sex and live-in maid services. The women are typically looking to have kids and tolerating the man is just a necessary evil to accomplish that.

Anonymous wrote:A well put together resume, doesn’t mean a put together woman or wife.

A woman who is single (not divorced) at that age is finally willing to settle for a man who checks the majority of boxes, but isn’t perfect. They are the female equivalent of a man child- self centered, critical and looking for someone to meet the needs they delayed for years. Most are not great partners, but are very successful and can be great people to hang out with as friends.

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Anonymous wrote:I am (47) recently divorced and finally checked out the apps for the first time. I am interested in women 37 and older. I was very surprised by the huge number of single women in this age bracket. Of course, it doesn't mean I am who they are looking for and it's probably more likely than I am not. But I went through a lot of well put together profiles and I am just surprised all these women are single. Yes there are probably more women than men in this age group, but it's as if all of them are single.

If I were to lower my age range to 30, it's probably going to be a similar story. But 10 years age gap is the most I'll go for as I am looking beyond just hooking up.

So guys out there who are single and looking, you have choices.

Speaking as a fellow divorced guy, you're missing the reason why these women are single: Higher standards. Women don't see being single the way they did back when you were last on the market.

20 years ago, a woman single in her 30s and 40s would settle for some guy she wasn't particularly attracted to and knew she was going to end up divorcing. The goal was just to get a marriage under the belt because "divorced" at 40 was better than never married at 40.

Nowadays, women are happy to stay single the rest of their lives rather than settle. This is triply true for women who are divorced. A lot of them hated being married and living with a man, and need a really, really, really good offer to consider going back to it.

So, while there are a lot of single women on the market, your chances are probably worse nowadays than they were 20 years ago. The lady who is going to want to get serious and actually stay with you isn't going to be as hot, smart, or emotionally stable as the one who would've wanted you 20 years ago. The woman you think is ideal will break up with you after three to six months today, if she even shows up to date #2.

I'm not going to give my take on whether women's standards today make sense or if the problem is men or whatever. Just laying out the scene.

OP here. Thanks for making excellent points. In fact I am talking to a woman who is 41 and I picked up many of the points that you made. At first I thought it's because I have been out of the market for 22 years, but then I realized the expectations are just not the same anymore. I don't have an opinion whether it's good or bad, but I am finding the journey interesting. This woman I'm taking to she is gorgeous. She has never been married, she has no kids, she owns her house and has a great career. I think she is talking to me just out of interest because she told me straight out that she wants to experience what my first wife experienced (all the milestones etc) and she rightfully said she won't be able to experience that with a divorced man.

Well jeez she’s 41. She’s going to miss all the milestones at this rate. This is why she’s single. She’s probably letting perfectly good men who meet her non negotiable criteria go because they don’t meet her unrealistic standards.

What’s the marriage joke? A woman gets into a department store full of husbands on the first floor and sees a sign that says “more husbands upstairs.” So she goes to the second floor and says, these look okay but what’s on the next floor? So she takes the elevator up one more level and is surprised to find nothing there.

The bolded is from your perspective. What is perfectly good for you may not be perfectly good for her. Marriage/long term romantic relationship is neither food nor water. It's a want. If I am looking for a dress, and I get up to the third floor, and there is nothing after I have rejected several other dresses on the lower floors, I can still go home happy that I did not spend my money on something that I did not love.

There is always another dress and another store. And if I don't find the dress and give the money to someone else, my choice, my loss, my gain. And I could decide to use the money to buy a pant suit instead.

Romantic relationships/ marriages are much more complex than dresses, but you get the point. If that picky lady chooses to save her time and energy for her " perfect" man, so what if it she never meets him? It's her life and there are many other fulfilling ways she can spend her energy and time.

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Anonymous wrote:I am (47) recently divorced and finally checked out the apps for the first time. I am interested in women 37 and older. I was very surprised by the huge number of single women in this age bracket. Of course, it doesn't mean I am who they are looking for and it's probably more likely than I am not. But I went through a lot of well put together profiles and I am just surprised all these women are single. Yes there are probably more women than men in this age group, but it's as if all of them are single.

If I were to lower my age range to 30, it's probably going to be a similar story. But 10 years age gap is the most I'll go for as I am looking beyond just hooking up.

So guys out there who are single and looking, you have choices.

Speaking as a fellow divorced guy, you're missing the reason why these women are single: Higher standards. Women don't see being single the way they did back when you were last on the market.

20 years ago, a woman single in her 30s and 40s would settle for some guy she wasn't particularly attracted to and knew she was going to end up divorcing. The goal was just to get a marriage under the belt because "divorced" at 40 was better than never married at 40.

Nowadays, women are happy to stay single the rest of their lives rather than settle. This is triply true for women who are divorced. A lot of them hated being married and living with a man, and need a really, really, really good offer to consider going back to it.

So, while there are a lot of single women on the market, your chances are probably worse nowadays than they were 20 years ago. The lady who is going to want to get serious and actually stay with you isn't going to be as hot, smart, or emotionally stable as the one who would've wanted you 20 years ago. The woman you think is ideal will break up with you after three to six months today, if she even shows up to date #2.

I'm not going to give my take on whether women's standards today make sense or if the problem is men or whatever. Just laying out the scene.

OP here. Thanks for making excellent points. In fact I am talking to a woman who is 41 and I picked up many of the points that you made. At first I thought it's because I have been out of the market for 22 years, but then I realized the expectations are just not the same anymore. I don't have an opinion whether it's good or bad, but I am finding the journey interesting. This woman I'm taking to she is gorgeous. She has never been married, she has no kids, she owns her house and has a great career. I think she is talking to me just out of interest because she told me straight out that she wants to experience what my first wife experienced (all the milestones etc) and she rightfully said she won't be able to experience that with a divorced man.

Well jeez she’s 41. She’s going to miss all the milestones at this rate. This is why she’s single. She’s probably letting perfectly good men who meet her non negotiable criteria go because they don’t meet her unrealistic standards.

What’s the marriage joke? A woman gets into a department store full of husbands on the first floor and sees a sign that says “more husbands upstairs.” So she goes to the second floor and says, these look okay but what’s on the next floor? So she takes the elevator up one more level and is surprised to find nothing there.

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Anonymous wrote:I am (47) recently divorced and finally checked out the apps for the first time. I am interested in women 37 and older. I was very surprised by the huge number of single women in this age bracket. Of course, it doesn't mean I am who they are looking for and it's probably more likely than I am not. But I went through a lot of well put together profiles and I am just surprised all these women are single. Yes there are probably more women than men in this age group, but it's as if all of them are single.

If I were to lower my age range to 30, it's probably going to be a similar story. But 10 years age gap is the most I'll go for as I am looking beyond just hooking up.

So guys out there who are single and looking, you have choices.

Speaking as a fellow divorced guy, you're missing the reason why these women are single: Higher standards. Women don't see being single the way they did back when you were last on the market.

20 years ago, a woman single in her 30s and 40s would settle for some guy she wasn't particularly attracted to and knew she was going to end up divorcing. The goal was just to get a marriage under the belt because "divorced" at 40 was better than never married at 40.

Nowadays, women are happy to stay single the rest of their lives rather than settle. This is triply true for women who are divorced. A lot of them hated being married and living with a man, and need a really, really, really good offer to consider going back to it.

So, while there are a lot of single women on the market, your chances are probably worse nowadays than they were 20 years ago. The lady who is going to want to get serious and actually stay with you isn't going to be as hot, smart, or emotionally stable as the one who would've wanted you 20 years ago. The woman you think is ideal will break up with you after three to six months today, if she even shows up to date #2.

I'm not going to give my take on whether women's standards today make sense or if the problem is men or whatever. Just laying out the scene.

OP here. Thanks for making excellent points. In fact I am talking to a woman who is 41 and I picked up many of the points that you made. At first I thought it's because I have been out of the market for 22 years, but then I realized the expectations are just not the same anymore. I don't have an opinion whether it's good or bad, but I am finding the journey interesting. This woman I'm taking to she is gorgeous. She has never been married, she has no kids, she owns her house and has a great career. I think she is talking to me just out of interest because she told me straight out that she wants to experience what my first wife experienced (all the milestones etc) and she rightfully said she won't be able to experience that with a divorced man.

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Anonymous wrote:These threads always crack me up. They are in complete juxtaposition with reality. The vast majority of my gfs are in happy long term marriages. Maybe 10% have divorced. The single ones moan constantly about dying alone and being broke.

You move in different circles that these posters. The women on here make good income and have good careers.

The women I went to undergrad with make around 200K. The women I went to professional school with make 250+. No one will go broke in this circle, single or married.

My aunt who is a single mom by choice makes 150k and bought a townhouse in the exurbs for 400K, and she lives very well and has consistently saved for retirement. She is not going to be broke. One of her kids got a full scholarship to college, and the other will go to a state school for 12K a year.

The only person in my circle who risks going broke was a stay at home mom, and her DH found it difficult to recover from the 2008 financial crisis. They lost their house when he lost his job and have struggled to recover since then. If they divorce ( they are not planning to), she and her DH will struggle as they don't have much.

No I don't. My DH and I have more money than anyone on this board. I'm in Old Town Alexandria. These women were mostly SAHMs to men that make 5M +. The women were all highly educated but they either took charity board roles or dabbled in politics while the husbands funded their 1% lifestyles. They have beach houses, Range Rovers, summers in Spain, kids at expensive and worthless SLACs.

Broke is a concept with theses women, not a literal definition. They will need to downsize to a $600,000 TH in Annandale but they wont really ever have to work.

Respectfully, no you do not sound like you do. None of this is that irregular or impressive.

Uber wealthy people in dmv don't live in Old Town Alexandria. They live in Forest Hills, Cleveland Park. Georgetown, some of CC and Bethesda, and parts of McLean

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Anonymous wrote:Tons a single Jewish women in their 30s and 40s

I’m not into them but that’s the majority of my matches on hinge

How do you know that they are single? I’m not Jewish but I’m a married (semi-separated) woman in my 40s on Hinge 😀
I’ve met several men in their 30s and 40s through Hinge who look good and have decent jobs but haven’t dated for a year or more. They say that there is a shortage of women who want to date - many of them ignore their invitations to meet even once.

Late 40s woman. I dated 4 so-called "high quality" men in spring-summer simultaneously. Every single of them had all formal attributes of high value: I would classify them 6-7-7-6. All of them were within 5-10 years of my age, in either direction. Two of them complained they were unable to find a woman who would commit. Anyone they were interested in wouldn't commit to date exclusively

I'm 5'7; 20 BMI ; 48 yo; high NW divorced F.

Did you end up with any of them or what happened?

Also, what's 6776?

6 pack, 7 P, 7 figures income, 6 height. They wanted a GF/cook for them, participate in social calendar, maintain joint household plan retirements together. Exclusive means each wanted me only to date them. Yes, I left all 4 as I didn't fall into any of them seriously. It's very easy for me to date whoever I want and meet men of similar parameters

Are men really out here measuring their penises or is this their unverified claim? Is 7" even a big deal? Of course they wanted a girlfriend to cook for them. That's one thing I'm making a point of never doing again for a man. Great way to weed out men who'll get even lazier once they're comfortable.

I never met a single man who didn't know the size of his P. It's like a woman not knowing her bra size.

A woman's bra size is essential to proper fitting of an article of clothing that is worn daily and significantly affects her professionalism and even her safety. How exactly is a man's penis length analogous to that?

It should fit into women's V which is essential for mutual safety and satisfaction

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Anonymous wrote:It is the classic hypergamy. Women do not care about men’s struggles. They wait at the finish line and pick the winner.

If you're a decent looking guy, make a lot of money, be kind to others, and have interesting hobbies such as car racing, play guitar, pickleball etc... you will have endless options with online dating. Congratulation, you are in the top 5%. It is like 95% of women chasing the top 5% men.

What's stopping you from improving your looks, working hard, fixing your stank personality, and developing interests beyond porn?

And why exactly should a random woman who's not your mom care about your struggles? You write that as if you've been wronged somehow.

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Anonymous wrote:These threads always crack me up. They are in complete juxtaposition with reality. The vast majority of my gfs are in happy long term marriages. Maybe 10% have divorced. The single ones moan constantly about dying alone and being broke.

You move in different circles that these posters. The women on here make good income and have good careers.

The women I went to undergrad with make around 200K. The women I went to professional school with make 250+. No one will go broke in this circle, single or married.

My aunt who is a single mom by choice makes 150k and bought a townhouse in the exurbs for 400K, and she lives very well and has consistently saved for retirement. She is not going to be broke. One of her kids got a full scholarship to college, and the other will go to a state school for 12K a year.

The only person in my circle who risks going broke was a stay at home mom, and her DH found it difficult to recover from the 2008 financial crisis. They lost their house when he lost his job and have struggled to recover since then. If they divorce ( they are not planning to), she and her DH will struggle as they don't have much.

No I don't. My DH and I have more money than anyone on this board. I'm in Old Town Alexandria. These women were mostly SAHMs to men that make 5M +. The women were all highly educated but they either took charity board roles or dabbled in politics while the husbands funded their 1% lifestyles. They have beach houses, Range Rovers, summers in Spain, kids at expensive and worthless SLACs.

Broke is a concept with theses women, not a literal definition. They will need to downsize to a $600,000 TH in Annandale but they wont really ever have to work.