Anonymous wrote:
Bruna sounds, by all accounts, like a kind, decent human being who very sadly got entangled (she was so young, likely 18/19, and then had her baby at 22) in an absolute trash family and has been stuck with that trash and doing her best to navigate a terrible/difficult situation all these years. She has 7 more years of this crap before her son ages out of the family court system and the garbage Leavitts lose that control over her. I hope her son grows up to see the truth. He will certainly see all of this.

The interview is both infuriating and heartbreaking:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/12/us/karoline-leavitt-ice-relative-bruna-ferreira

And this speaks VOLUMES. She was detained for nearly a MONTH and hasn't seen her son:
She hasn’t been able to see her son since her return to Massachusetts as she is required to wear a GPS monitor, and the boy’s father hasn’t brought him to see her, Ferreira said.

Anonymous wrote:Karoline's brother sounds like a loser and a liar, and a vindictive one at that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/12/07/trump-immigration-karoline-leavitt-brother-bruna/

Michael Leavitt, 35, echoed the White House’s allegation that she had never lived with her son, in text messages last week with The Post. But in court records he filed in New Hampshire in 2015, he wrote that they shared a home and listed them at the same address. Ferreira also mentioned their shared condo in a 2014 newspaper article after Leavitt won $1 million playing fantasy football. He did not respond to questions about the discrepancy. Leavitt is a former high school star athlete, is married and helps run his family’s used-car and truck business in New Hampshire.

Ferreira’s legal status had long been a point of contention in her relationship with Michael Leavitt. After they broke up, Ferreira said in court records that Michael Leavitt had in the past threatened to try to get her deported.

In the text messages, Michael Leavitt denied seeking to have Ferreira deported.

Ferreira says he and his father, Bob Leavitt, have in recent weeks told her sister that Ferreira should “self deport,” and try to return legally, a move her lawyers say would be disastrous: Under federal law, Ferreira would be barred from coming back to the United States for a decade. Bob Leavitt did not respond to requests for comment.

Michael Leavitt is from a close-knit family with deep roots in New Hampshire. He also had legal issues: He was charged twice in New Hampshire with underage alcohol possession, resulting in a fine and then a guilty plea to a downgraded town ordinance violation.

In 2009, at 19, he was found guilty of drunken driving and fined $620. In 2011, Miami Beach police arrested him for disorderly conduct, alleging that he and another man were fighting in the middle of the street, stopping traffic. The charges were dropped, court records show.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just read this entire thread.

So are we saying, as Americans, American little American boys and little American girls (say, for simplicity where the child has at least one legal American parent), should NOT grow up with MOM and DAD—even if they can?

It gets complicated quickly. I guess if one is a sociopath who has no relationships, it can be clear cut to you.

The law is very slow. Maybe the U.S. Congress can address all of these scenarios. At least let the parents stay and be deported when their American child turns 18. Anything is better than this.

Or children can live with their parent(s) in their country of origin. What you're suggesting incentivizes people to get pregnant here to get a free pass to stay.

We should also get rid of the rule that American children can sponsor their parents once they turn 18.

You really think American Dads will go for this? Let their children go with mom? Maybe when they are babies, but later children become more interactive. Moms want to be next to grandmas so that part makes sense.

It’s possible the men might go for your proposal, but most want to be involved.

I mean we see cases where men father 200 children. That is not regulated either. With sperm freezing on the rise, and sex down, congress should catch up on those rules too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just read this entire thread.

So are we saying, as Americans, American little American boys and little American girls (say, for simplicity where the child has at least one legal American parent), should NOT grow up with MOM and DAD—even if they can?

It gets complicated quickly. I guess if one is a sociopath who has no relationships, it can be clear cut to you.

The law is very slow. Maybe the U.S. Congress can address all of these scenarios. At least let the parents stay and be deported when their American child turns 18. Anything is better than this.

Or children can live with their parent(s) in their country of origin. What you're suggesting incentivizes people to get pregnant here to get a free pass to stay.

We should also get rid of the rule that American children can sponsor their parents once they turn 18.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just read this entire thread.

So are we saying, as Americans, American little American boys and little American girls (say, for simplicity where the child has at least one legal American parent), should NOT grow up with MOM and DAD—even if they can?

It gets complicated quickly. I guess if one is a sociopath who has no relationships, it can be clear cut to you.

The law is very slow. Maybe the U.S. Congress can address all of these scenarios. At least let the parents stay and be deported when their American child turns 18. Anything is better than this.

Or children can live with their parent(s) in their country of origin. What you're suggesting incentivizes people to get pregnant here to get a free pass to stay.

We should also get rid of the rule that American children can sponsor their parents once they turn 18.

Anonymous wrote:I just read this entire thread.

So are we saying, as Americans, American little American boys and little American girls (say, for simplicity where the child has at least one legal American parent), should NOT grow up with MOM and DAD—even if they can?

It gets complicated quickly. I guess if one is a sociopath who has no relationships, it can be clear cut to you.

The law is very slow. Maybe the U.S. Congress can address all of these scenarios. At least let the parents stay and be deported when their American child turns 18. Anything is better than this.

Anonymous wrote:In short, Kkaroline had her nephew’s mother deported because Kkaroline’s brother wants sole custody. It’s crazy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Karoline's brother sounds like a loser and a liar, and a vindictive one at that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/12/07/trump-immigration-karoline-leavitt-brother-bruna/

Michael Leavitt, 35, echoed the White House’s allegation that she had never lived with her son, in text messages last week with The Post. But in court records he filed in New Hampshire in 2015, he wrote that they shared a home and listed them at the same address. Ferreira also mentioned their shared condo in a 2014 newspaper article after Leavitt won $1 million playing fantasy football. He did not respond to questions about the discrepancy. Leavitt is a former high school star athlete, is married and helps run his family’s used-car and truck business in New Hampshire.

Ferreira’s legal status had long been a point of contention in her relationship with Michael Leavitt. After they broke up, Ferreira said in court records that Michael Leavitt had in the past threatened to try to get her deported.

In the text messages, Michael Leavitt denied seeking to have Ferreira deported.

Ferreira says he and his father, Bob Leavitt, have in recent weeks told her sister that Ferreira should “self deport,” and try to return legally, a move her lawyers say would be disastrous: Under federal law, Ferreira would be barred from coming back to the United States for a decade. Bob Leavitt did not respond to requests for comment.

Michael Leavitt is from a close-knit family with deep roots in New Hampshire. He also had legal issues: He was charged twice in New Hampshire with underage alcohol possession, resulting in a fine and then a guilty plea to a downgraded town ordinance violation.

In 2009, at 19, he was found guilty of drunken driving and fined $620. In 2011, Miami Beach police arrested him for disorderly conduct, alleging that he and another man were fighting in the middle of the street, stopping traffic. The charges were dropped, court records show.

I don't understand why Trump just can't pick a normal waspy wonky family person. Why does there always need to be children out of wedlock, weirdly older husbands, drunken fights, used car salespeople, drunk drivers? like did the US run out of boring families with no record?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Karoline's brother sounds like a loser and a liar, and a vindictive one at that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/12/07/trump-immigration-karoline-leavitt-brother-bruna/

Michael Leavitt, 35, echoed the White House’s allegation that she had never lived with her son, in text messages last week with The Post. But in court records he filed in New Hampshire in 2015, he wrote that they shared a home and listed them at the same address. Ferreira also mentioned their shared condo in a 2014 newspaper article after Leavitt won $1 million playing fantasy football. He did not respond to questions about the discrepancy. Leavitt is a former high school star athlete, is married and helps run his family’s used-car and truck business in New Hampshire.

Ferreira’s legal status had long been a point of contention in her relationship with Michael Leavitt. After they broke up, Ferreira said in court records that Michael Leavitt had in the past threatened to try to get her deported.

In the text messages, Michael Leavitt denied seeking to have Ferreira deported.

Ferreira says he and his father, Bob Leavitt, have in recent weeks told her sister that Ferreira should “self deport,” and try to return legally, a move her lawyers say would be disastrous: Under federal law, Ferreira would be barred from coming back to the United States for a decade. Bob Leavitt did not respond to requests for comment.

Michael Leavitt is from a close-knit family with deep roots in New Hampshire. He also had legal issues: He was charged twice in New Hampshire with underage alcohol possession, resulting in a fine and then a guilty plea to a downgraded town ordinance violation.

In 2009, at 19, he was found guilty of drunken driving and fined $620. In 2011, Miami Beach police arrested him for disorderly conduct, alleging that he and another man were fighting in the middle of the street, stopping traffic. The charges were dropped, court records show.

I don't understand why Trump just can't pick a normal waspy wonky family person. Why does there always need to be children out of wedlock, weirdly older husbands, drunken fights, used car salespeople, drunk drivers? like did the US run out of boring families with no record?

Anonymous wrote:Karoline's brother sounds like a loser and a liar, and a vindictive one at that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/12/07/trump-immigration-karoline-leavitt-brother-bruna/

Michael Leavitt, 35, echoed the White House’s allegation that she had never lived with her son, in text messages last week with The Post. But in court records he filed in New Hampshire in 2015, he wrote that they shared a home and listed them at the same address. Ferreira also mentioned their shared condo in a 2014 newspaper article after Leavitt won $1 million playing fantasy football. He did not respond to questions about the discrepancy. Leavitt is a former high school star athlete, is married and helps run his family’s used-car and truck business in New Hampshire.

Ferreira’s legal status had long been a point of contention in her relationship with Michael Leavitt. After they broke up, Ferreira said in court records that Michael Leavitt had in the past threatened to try to get her deported.

In the text messages, Michael Leavitt denied seeking to have Ferreira deported.

Ferreira says he and his father, Bob Leavitt, have in recent weeks told her sister that Ferreira should “self deport,” and try to return legally, a move her lawyers say would be disastrous: Under federal law, Ferreira would be barred from coming back to the United States for a decade. Bob Leavitt did not respond to requests for comment.

Michael Leavitt is from a close-knit family with deep roots in New Hampshire. He also had legal issues: He was charged twice in New Hampshire with underage alcohol possession, resulting in a fine and then a guilty plea to a downgraded town ordinance violation.

In 2009, at 19, he was found guilty of drunken driving and fined $620. In 2011, Miami Beach police arrested him for disorderly conduct, alleging that he and another man were fighting in the middle of the street, stopping traffic. The charges were dropped, court records show.