Anonymous
11/03/2025 22:19
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Michigan has some powerhouse undergraduate programs with top 10 programs in math, engineering, computer science, nursing, theater, business. I've probably left some out. For kids interested in its top areas it's a strong choice with attractive options if they change their field of study. Michigan just has a wide breadth of different, stellar programs that UMD, UVA, VTech can't offer.
In other areas of study it's a solid competitor.
In other areas of study it's a solid competitor.
Anonymous
11/03/2025 21:59
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
While it's easier to get into UMich from in-state, they are about 50% OOS and they certainly don't take all students from the state. It's the top school in the state and the #3 public in the country. It's not full of low scoring students. Ridiculous.
Anonymous
11/03/2025 21:49
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are many more W school students who apply and attend Michigan than APS students. It’s the MD vs VA split. Numerically there is just no way 70 kids applied ED from YHS. My kid got into Michigan from YHS last year (c/o 2025). They are attending another T20.
Michigan is more desirable for MD residents because UVa is a better school and place/option for instate residents.
Huh?
NP. Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.
HTH
Still doesn’t explain your comment. If you think UVA is the better school/place, why is the yield rate so much higher at Michigan with a similar acceptance rate? Costs are equivalent.
In part because Virginia has 3 strong state schools and Michigan has one. Many kids apply to 2 of 3 or all 3 of the Virginia schools and they lose kids to each other.
Michigan is basically UVA and V Tech in one. Or NC State and UNC in one. Or GA and GA Tech in one. They're going to have a higher yield than these other state schools because they're the only game in town.
That still doesn’t answer why the yield rate is so low for MD residents who apply to UVA. It’s obvious. Michigan is a top 20 school. There are no schools in Virginia that are even top 25.
Only by USNWR and no other ranking service. Michigan has only 32 Rhodes scholars. UVA has 57
Anonymous
11/03/2025 19:51
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Of course a large percentage of Michigan's students have low SAT's. It is obligated to educated Michigan residents. A far different story than selective private schools.
Anonymous
11/03/2025 19:44
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are many more W school students who apply and attend Michigan than APS students. It’s the MD vs VA split. Numerically there is just no way 70 kids applied ED from YHS. My kid got into Michigan from YHS last year (c/o 2025). They are attending another T20.
Michigan is more desirable for MD residents because UVa is a better school and place/option for instate residents.
Huh?
NP. Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.
HTH
Still doesn’t explain your comment. If you think UVA is the better school/place, why is the yield rate so much higher at Michigan with a similar acceptance rate? Costs are equivalent.
In part because Virginia has 3 strong state schools and Michigan has one. Many kids apply to 2 of 3 or all 3 of the Virginia schools and they lose kids to each other.
Michigan is basically UVA and V Tech in one. Or NC State and UNC in one. Or GA and GA Tech in one. They're going to have a higher yield than these other state schools because they're the only game in town.
This is not fair to Michigan State University (and I am a Michigan grad). Michigan State is somewhat equivalent to VT. And it has academic programs that Michigan doesn't have. And really good merit. There are reasons why kids will pick MSU.
and WMU won the NCAA Hockey Championship last year
... not sure the last time a school in VA competed for that
Anonymous
11/03/2025 19:03
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are many more W school students who apply and attend Michigan than APS students. It’s the MD vs VA split. Numerically there is just no way 70 kids applied ED from YHS. My kid got into Michigan from YHS last year (c/o 2025). They are attending another T20.
Michigan is more desirable for MD residents because UVa is a better school and place/option for instate residents.
Huh?
NP. Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.
HTH
Still doesn’t explain your comment. If you think UVA is the better school/place, why is the yield rate so much higher at Michigan with a similar acceptance rate? Costs are equivalent.
In part because Virginia has 3 strong state schools and Michigan has one. Many kids apply to 2 of 3 or all 3 of the Virginia schools and they lose kids to each other.
Michigan is basically UVA and V Tech in one. Or NC State and UNC in one. Or GA and GA Tech in one. They're going to have a higher yield than these other state schools because they're the only game in town.
This is not fair to Michigan State University (and I am a Michigan grad). Michigan State is somewhat equivalent to VT. And it has academic programs that Michigan doesn't have. And really good merit. There are reasons why kids will pick MSU.
Anonymous
11/03/2025 15:14
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My friend has a child at Yorktown and they were told that there are 70+ kids who have ED'd to Michigan.
In Virginia,...... what?
If these Yorktown kids have the stats to get into Michigan, they could get into UVA. Hard to believe there are 70 kids that would pay $80,000 a year for Michigan knowing they could very likely go in state to UVA for half the cost.
A lot more than $80,000 a year. Cost of attendance OOS Michigan:
Freshman & Sophomore year - $84,164
Junior & Senior year - $88,646
Christ that’s what we are full pay at an Ivy.
Not everyone wants to go to the Ivies. And yes, DC was accepted.
The Ivies are not known for their STEM.
For example, Dartmouth Engineering degree is a BA and then an extra 9 courses to get a Bachelor of Engineering in a fifth year.
Of the top ranked undergrad ChemE programs, Princeton is the only one ranked in top 10. UMich is number 8.
Again, not everyone is dying to go to an Ivy. There’s a school for everyone. Glad your DC is happy at an Ivy.
Anonymous
11/03/2025 15:11
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My friend has a child at Yorktown and they were told that there are 70+ kids who have ED'd to Michigan.
In Virginia,...... what?
If these Yorktown kids have the stats to get into Michigan, they could get into UVA. Hard to believe there are 70 kids that would pay $80,000 a year for Michigan knowing they could very likely go in state to UVA for half the cost.
A lot more than $80,000 a year. Cost of attendance OOS Michigan:
Freshman & Sophomore year - $84,164
Junior & Senior year - $88,646
Christ that’s what we are full pay at an Ivy.
Yep. So it seems crazy to think 70 public school families would sign up for that tuition, given that Michigan gives virtually no aid to OOS students. I know there are plenty of public school families than can easily afford $85k+ a year—but 70 are willing to commit at ED? Especially when you consider that the instate school option is UVA? Come on. OP is full of it.
Except for the painfully obvious fact that most kids aren’t getting into any Ivy. Perhaps it’s also a testament to the desires of wealthy families not to have their children attend UVA? If money is no object and you want to get your child into a top 20 school, why not ED to Michigan?
Anonymous
11/03/2025 15:00
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My friend has a child at Yorktown and they were told that there are 70+ kids who have ED'd to Michigan.
In Virginia,...... what?
If these Yorktown kids have the stats to get into Michigan, they could get into UVA. Hard to believe there are 70 kids that would pay $80,000 a year for Michigan knowing they could very likely go in state to UVA for half the cost.
A lot more than $80,000 a year. Cost of attendance OOS Michigan:
Freshman & Sophomore year - $84,164
Junior & Senior year - $88,646
Christ that’s what we are full pay at an Ivy.
Yep. So it seems crazy to think 70 public school families would sign up for that tuition, given that Michigan gives virtually no aid to OOS students. I know there are plenty of public school families than can easily afford $85k+ a year—but 70 are willing to commit at ED? Especially when you consider that the instate school option is UVA? Come on. OP is full of it.
Anonymous
11/03/2025 14:11
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s basically a guarantee that the true top kids shooting for HYPSM will continue to apply EA, not ED. But in the current environment, where so many kids want a big school experience, it’s plausible to me that Michigan will steal ED market share from schools like Penn, Cornell, Northwestern, and Duke. To parents prepared to pay those private-school prices, Michigan would look like a bargain. And those kids often come from private schools or affluent neighborhoods where they are under pretty intense pressure to “play their ED card” somewhere. Now they can apply ED to Michigan.
How is Michigan a bargain over private schools? Michigan's OOS tuition is just as high as private school tuition - like significantly higher than UNC, UCs, UW, etc. That's why I just don't get why all of these families from private schools are wanting their kids to get into UMichigan.
Probably comfort with the culture based upon the past experiences of people
Anonymous
11/03/2025 14:11
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are many more W school students who apply and attend Michigan than APS students. It’s the MD vs VA split. Numerically there is just no way 70 kids applied ED from YHS. My kid got into Michigan from YHS last year (c/o 2025). They are attending another T20.
Michigan is more desirable for MD residents because UVa is a better school and place/option for instate residents.
Huh?
I had to re-read that twice. I think PP was saying that the difference between UM and UMD is greater than the difference between UM and UVA b/c UVA is considered stronger than UVA. UM>UVA>UMD
Anonymous
11/03/2025 14:05
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:watch WI, MN, UTK, UTA etc all move to ED next year
Very few OOS top students are going to apply ED to any of the above mentioned schools if it ever gets offered.
Who said “top students”. At our HS, the top students aren’t applying ED to Michigan. Our top 10% go t10. Then the next decile or two think about Georgetown, Ross, UCLA, Midd etc.
But there’s for sure a 50% kid who wants WI. So why wouldn’t they grab these full pay kids who have gone to rigorous private schools and won’t be the top students but won’t be any problems at all. And bring plenty of connections
Didn't Michigan just add ED this year? And you already know exactly who picked the ED option when the applications were due on Saturday?
He/she doesn’t know. I highly doubt all of the top ten percent of any school is attending a top 10 university. Hyperbole much?
this is true at our nyc school. easily.
Anonymous
11/03/2025 14:04
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My friend has a child at Yorktown and they were told that there are 70+ kids who have ED'd to Michigan.
In Virginia,...... what?
If these Yorktown kids have the stats to get into Michigan, they could get into UVA. Hard to believe there are 70 kids that would pay $80,000 a year for Michigan knowing they could very likely go in state to UVA for half the cost.
A lot more than $80,000 a year. Cost of attendance OOS Michigan:
Freshman & Sophomore year - $84,164
Junior & Senior year - $88,646
Christ that’s what we are full pay at an Ivy.
Anonymous
11/03/2025 14:03
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:watch WI, MN, UTK, UTA etc all move to ED next year
Very few OOS top students are going to apply ED to any of the above mentioned schools if it ever gets offered.
Who said “top students”. At our HS, the top students aren’t applying ED to Michigan. Our top 10% go t10. Then the next decile or two think about Georgetown, Ross, UCLA, Midd etc.
But there’s for sure a 50% kid who wants WI. So why wouldn’t they grab these full pay kids who have gone to rigorous private schools and won’t be the top students but won’t be any problems at all. And bring plenty of connections
Didn't Michigan just add ED this year? And you already know exactly who picked the ED option when the applications were due on Saturday?
DP. Multiple top 10% kids at our HS, including my own, are applying ED to Michigan.
Anonymous
11/03/2025 13:58
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are many more W school students who apply and attend Michigan than APS students. It’s the MD vs VA split. Numerically there is just no way 70 kids applied ED from YHS. My kid got into Michigan from YHS last year (c/o 2025). They are attending another T20.
Michigan is more desirable for MD residents because UVa is a better school and place/option for instate residents.
Huh?
NP. Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.
HTH
Still doesn’t explain your comment. If you think UVA is the better school/place, why is the yield rate so much higher at Michigan with a similar acceptance rate? Costs are equivalent.
In part because Virginia has 3 strong state schools and Michigan has one. Many kids apply to 2 of 3 or all 3 of the Virginia schools and they lose kids to each other.
Michigan is basically UVA and V Tech in one. Or NC State and UNC in one. Or GA and GA Tech in one. They're going to have a higher yield than these other state schools because they're the only game in town.
That still doesn’t answer why the yield rate is so low for MD residents who apply to UVA. It’s obvious. Michigan is a top 20 school. There are no schools in Virginia that are even top 25.