Anonymous wrote:These restrictions in vacccine access are awful. Antivaxxers can make decisions about their own bodies and those of their kids, but they shouldn't let their anti-science paranoia prevent Americans who need and want those vaccines from getting them.

The Covid Vaccine Situation – Unclear for the Time Being

It is not yet clear whether Covid vaccine will be available for children this year. This past week the FDA issued a “safety label” for the 2025-2026 versions of the Pfizer vaccine for ages 5 and up, and the Moderna vaccine for ages 6 months and up. However, the vaccines have not yet been approved by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

CDC approval has historically been a prerequisite for vaccine distribution and administration. In a normal year, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) meets in the spring to issue vaccine recommendations for the fall season. The director of the CDC then typically approves the vaccines for distribution and use.

This year, the spring ACIP meeting did not occur – it was canceled. All 17 members of the Committee were then dismissed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, RFK Jr. They were replaced by a group of 8 new members, 1 of whom has subsequently resigned. At least two of the remaining 7 are noted vaccine skeptics.

ACIP is next scheduled to meet September 18-19. It is expected to issue a Covid vaccine recommendation at that time. However, given the ouster this week of the director of the CDC and the subsequent resignation of several other top CDC officials, it is not clear that this meeting will take place as scheduled. It is also not clear what the Committee will recommend, whether the CDC will follow that recommendation, or whether CDC approval will prove necessary for vaccine distribution and administration this year.

The upshot is that we do not yet know when and if Covid vaccine will be available for children this fall. We will update you here as soon as the situation becomes clear.

Anonymous wrote:Here is a reputable source and explains it all:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/acip-member-critical-covid-vaccines-lead-review

Basically it is a huckster with a degree in management who was put on a fake ACIP by rfk, and the next meeting he plans to “review” mRNA vaccines and covid vaccines and remove them from market.

Got my covid booster a week ago. This is terrible, as we are staring down a covid wave and group most affected (according to ER and hospitalizations) is 0-18.

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Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

Stop with the lies. Canada strongly recommends it for vulnerable groups (not only age based), and makes it available to everyone, suggesting an annual booster is enough for average risk individuals. Canada also updates its guidance based on the latest statistics and scientific findings, noting that any “common” side effects (meaning those occurring in 10% or more people), such as a sore arm, are typically mild and transient.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/healthy-living/canadian-immunization-guide-part-4-active-vaccines/page-26-covid-19-vaccine.html

Well, actually, neither of you are completely correct. Availability is by province. Canada technicaly recommends it just for the vulnerable groups. Availability for those outside of the vulnerable groups varies, as I said, by province. The standard across most of the world is recommendation for the vulnerable. https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/vaccines/how-vaccinated.html#a13

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Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there recent research from Europe saying either covid or the vaccine (they aren’t sure) ages your blood vessels by 5 years on average—noting the link to vasculitis (among other issues)?

Perhaps that’s why most doctors aren’t recommending it for kids and healthy adults any longer?

FTR I got the original vax and was boosted, but I haven’t opted for continual covid vaccines. I’m also a lifelong liberal who would never vote for a R. But my pediatrician stopped recommending the covid vaccine a while ago based on “the science,” so I feel like research has evolved.

Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, perhaps there is a middle ground?

This is such a sensible response. As a middle aged late woman home right now with my first ever bout of Covid, even I support a common sense, open-minded understanding of this topic. For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid. I don't feel great right now, but it's just a bad cold. I had the first round of shots and no boosters. Too many in the medical community are coming out with new recommendations about the safety and efficacy. I wish people would just be more open-minded instead of jumping right to insults of people who happen to have a different perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

That's not quite right. And what about the EU, hmm?

Same in the EU. Anyone of any age can get the covid vax free of charge, at least once a year. Some member states of the EU offer more than one a year to high risk groups, free of charge.
This information is easy to look up, you know. EMA. Not Fox News or gateway pundit.

Nope.

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2025/06/26/whos-eligible-for-the-2025-covid-19-vaccine-or-autumn-booster/

For autumn 2025, COVID-19 vaccination will be offered to:

adults aged 75 years and over
residents in care homes for older adults
individuals who are immunosuppressed aged 6 months and over

This represents a change from the autumn 2024 programme, which also included adults aged 65 to 74 and all those aged 6 months and over in a clinical risk group.

The eligibility is the same across the 4 nations of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland).

The UK is not part of the EU.

Oh, god. PP was asleep for all of Brexit.

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Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

That's not quite right. And what about the EU, hmm?

Same in the EU. Anyone of any age can get the covid vax free of charge, at least once a year. Some member states of the EU offer more than one a year to high risk groups, free of charge.
This information is easy to look up, you know. EMA. Not Fox News or gateway pundit.

Nope.

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2025/06/26/whos-eligible-for-the-2025-covid-19-vaccine-or-autumn-booster/

For autumn 2025, COVID-19 vaccination will be offered to:

adults aged 75 years and over
residents in care homes for older adults
individuals who are immunosuppressed aged 6 months and over

This represents a change from the autumn 2024 programme, which also included adults aged 65 to 74 and all those aged 6 months and over in a clinical risk group.

The eligibility is the same across the 4 nations of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland).

The UK is not part of the EU.

What’s different in the UK is that anyone can go and get a vax, even if they aren’t in the invited group. There is a fee but it’s half what it is here.

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Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

That's not quite right. And what about the EU, hmm?

Same in the EU. Anyone of any age can get the covid vax free of charge, at least once a year. Some member states of the EU offer more than one a year to high risk groups, free of charge.
This information is easy to look up, you know. EMA. Not Fox News or gateway pundit.

Nope.

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2025/06/26/whos-eligible-for-the-2025-covid-19-vaccine-or-autumn-booster/

For autumn 2025, COVID-19 vaccination will be offered to:

adults aged 75 years and over
residents in care homes for older adults
individuals who are immunosuppressed aged 6 months and over

This represents a change from the autumn 2024 programme, which also included adults aged 65 to 74 and all those aged 6 months and over in a clinical risk group.

The eligibility is the same across the 4 nations of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland).

The UK is not part of the EU.

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Anonymous wrote:Media literacy note: the person quoted in this piece is attempting to make a COVID vaccine ban happen by talking about it. By reporting it as though it is happening (while DJT is on TV talking about Operation Warp Speed as his great achievement, no less!), this piece is furthering that aim.

This post did not age well.

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Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

That's not quite right. And what about the EU, hmm?

Same in the EU. Anyone of any age can get the covid vax free of charge, at least once a year. Some member states of the EU offer more than one a year to high risk groups, free of charge.
This information is easy to look up, you know. EMA. Not Fox News or gateway pundit.

Nope.

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2025/06/26/whos-eligible-for-the-2025-covid-19-vaccine-or-autumn-booster/

For autumn 2025, COVID-19 vaccination will be offered to:

adults aged 75 years and over
residents in care homes for older adults
individuals who are immunosuppressed aged 6 months and over

This represents a change from the autumn 2024 programme, which also included adults aged 65 to 74 and all those aged 6 months and over in a clinical risk group.

The eligibility is the same across the 4 nations of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland).

The UK is not part of the EU.

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Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

That's not quite right. And what about the EU, hmm?

Same in the EU. Anyone of any age can get the covid vax free of charge, at least once a year. Some member states of the EU offer more than one a year to high risk groups, free of charge.
This information is easy to look up, you know. EMA. Not Fox News or gateway pundit.

Nope.

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2025/06/26/whos-eligible-for-the-2025-covid-19-vaccine-or-autumn-booster/

For autumn 2025, COVID-19 vaccination will be offered to:

adults aged 75 years and over
residents in care homes for older adults
individuals who are immunosuppressed aged 6 months and over

This represents a change from the autumn 2024 programme, which also included adults aged 65 to 74 and all those aged 6 months and over in a clinical risk group.

The eligibility is the same across the 4 nations of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland).

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Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there recent research from Europe saying either covid or the vaccine (they aren’t sure) ages your blood vessels by 5 years on average—noting the link to vasculitis (among other issues)?

Perhaps that’s why most doctors aren’t recommending it for kids and healthy adults any longer?

FTR I got the original vax and was boosted, but I haven’t opted for continual covid vaccines. I’m also a lifelong liberal who would never vote for a R. But my pediatrician stopped recommending the covid vaccine a while ago based on “the science,” so I feel like research has evolved.

Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, perhaps there is a middle ground?

This is such a sensible response. As a middle aged late woman home right now with my first ever bout of Covid, even I support a common sense, open-minded understanding of this topic. For healthy people, the risks of the vaccines simply do not outweigh the risks of Covid. I don't feel great right now, but it's just a bad cold. I had the first round of shots and no boosters. Too many in the medical community are coming out with new recommendations about the safety and efficacy. I wish people would just be more open-minded instead of jumping right to insults of people who happen to have a different perspective.

You are full of it and don’t know what you are talking about. I’m in the same demographic as you and had Covid 8 months ago. Still struggling with altered taste buds and congestion. My doctor has told me it can take 1-2 years to resolve fully.

Also my WBC’s have mysteriously dropped and they are not sure if this is Covid related or not.

So, please present this mysterious data of which you speak!

Not to mention that no one knows what the implications of COVID may be in the years to come.

Sadly, some people (MAGA) are so stupid that they can't think ten or twenty years ahead and what their current choices will do to them in the future.

So, PP, why don't you inhale some asbestos? RFK probably thinks we should all eat it for breakfast.

If you aren't going to listen to science on vaccines, then why listen to science on asbestos?

For that matter, why listen to accident data and wear a seat belt? Why are you doing anything recommended by experts?