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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So all your information comes from posters here? That sounds about right. Interesting that you sit in judgment of people when you have no first hand information or knowledge and likely don’t even have kids.

As a parent who basically never volunteers, I am grateful for the ones that do.

I do not understand how people are able to volunteer for so much but kudos to them if they can handle it and enjoy it! I don't really care if it gets their kid some sort of upper edge. Does it really matter?

Anonymous wrote:Anybody else feel bad for the parents who feel the need to volunteer for everything their kid does-helps on the field for every football game, chaperones every field trip, flies to every school trip?
And they act like they know all the kids and the “kids just love” them.

It’s almost like they are reliving their youth

No but I feel bad for people like you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So what do you volunteer to do?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with you OP. I have two friends who volunteer for everything their kids do. They do it because they know it gets their kids things that the other kids don't get. But these moms in general have no lives of their own. I feel bad for the kids, actually, because they have nothing for themselves. They also think that they earned these special extras because of their talent/hard work, they will end up being very disappointed later in life when they realize they have to so the work or that they weren't as talented as they thought.

None of this is true, but if it makes you feel better to think ill of those who help out in your community, not one can stop your bitterness.

It is 100% true. The parents are trying to get their kids more or better advantages than the other kids. When they are "helping" the person heading the event, sport, or whatever feels the need to let the volunteers kid more field time, the better position, stay longer, get more whatever. I have actually seen it done. It's very frustrating.

NP. This mainly just comes off as a cope from someone who refuses to help make any of the things their kid benefits from actually happen.

So then you agree that parents are doing it to "make things happen" for their kids. Thank you for agreeing and seeing it for what it is.

DP - you can’t be this dense. Make things happen means things like making the field trip or class party happen. Things your kid benefits from even though you’re too lazy to lift a finger but are happy to take advantage of. Put your money where your mouth is and opt out of the field trip and party next time.

I'm not talking about the small number of parents to are actually helpful. I am talking about the parents who sign up for things just to get their kid more "stuff". You know who they are. They're relentless, asskiss, and play the game. You don't have to admit to it, but I'm guessing you're one of them. And now you're going to get on your high horse and say... absolutely not blah, blah, blah. What do you think happens when your kid goes out into the real world without you???

In my experience, the volunteers typically go out of their way not to preference their own kid.

I mean there are exceptions. I watched my husband (legitimately) pass up our own kid for all-stars, but most diamond sports coaches don't do that.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with you OP. I have two friends who volunteer for everything their kids do. They do it because they know it gets their kids things that the other kids don't get. But these moms in general have no lives of their own. I feel bad for the kids, actually, because they have nothing for themselves. They also think that they earned these special extras because of their talent/hard work, they will end up being very disappointed later in life when they realize they have to so the work or that they weren't as talented as they thought.

None of this is true, but if it makes you feel better to think ill of those who help out in your community, not one can stop your bitterness.

It is 100% true. The parents are trying to get their kids more or better advantages than the other kids. When they are "helping" the person heading the event, sport, or whatever feels the need to let the volunteers kid more field time, the better position, stay longer, get more whatever. I have actually seen it done. It's very frustrating.

NP. This mainly just comes off as a cope from someone who refuses to help make any of the things their kid benefits from actually happen.

So then you agree that parents are doing it to "make things happen" for their kids. Thank you for agreeing and seeing it for what it is.

DP - you can’t be this dense. Make things happen means things like making the field trip or class party happen. Things your kid benefits from even though you’re too lazy to lift a finger but are happy to take advantage of. Put your money where your mouth is and opt out of the field trip and party next time.

I'm not talking about the small number of parents to are actually helpful. I am talking about the parents who sign up for things just to get their kid more "stuff". You know who they are. They're relentless, asskiss, and play the game. You don't have to admit to it, but I'm guessing you're one of them. And now you're going to get on your high horse and say... absolutely not blah, blah, blah. What do you think happens when your kid goes out into the real world without you???

DP. I can think of a couple of these off the top of my head, but it's like 5% maybe of the volunteers I know. And sometimes I've watched it adamantly NOT work.

Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

Clearly you've never been a room parent. WE don't determine how many class parties there are, or when they are. The teachers do that in conjunction with administrators. And the teachers usually do it at times when the kids are crazy and squirrely anyway. It gives the teachers a break in the middle of a crazy busy season.

I really don't think a winter party and an end of year party are the problem with modern education, and I really dislike much of the modern educational system. My middle schooler who is past the age of room parents is now in class government and the kids just do the parties themselves. Trust me they have a lot more party-type-stuff in homeroom than my elementary kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with you OP. I have two friends who volunteer for everything their kids do. They do it because they know it gets their kids things that the other kids don't get. But these moms in general have no lives of their own. I feel bad for the kids, actually, because they have nothing for themselves. They also think that they earned these special extras because of their talent/hard work, they will end up being very disappointed later in life when they realize they have to so the work or that they weren't as talented as they thought.

None of this is true, but if it makes you feel better to think ill of those who help out in your community, not one can stop your bitterness.

It is 100% true. The parents are trying to get their kids more or better advantages than the other kids. When they are "helping" the person heading the event, sport, or whatever feels the need to let the volunteers kid more field time, the better position, stay longer, get more whatever. I have actually seen it done. It's very frustrating.

NP. This mainly just comes off as a cope from someone who refuses to help make any of the things their kid benefits from actually happen.

So then you agree that parents are doing it to "make things happen" for their kids. Thank you for agreeing and seeing it for what it is.

DP - you can’t be this dense. Make things happen means things like making the field trip or class party happen. Things your kid benefits from even though you’re too lazy to lift a finger but are happy to take advantage of. Put your money where your mouth is and opt out of the field trip and party next time.

I'm not talking about the small number of parents to are actually helpful. I am talking about the parents who sign up for things just to get their kid more "stuff". You know who they are. They're relentless, asskiss, and play the game. You don't have to admit to it, but I'm guessing you're one of them. And now you're going to get on your high horse and say... absolutely not blah, blah, blah. What do you think happens when your kid goes out into the real world without you???

The volunteer doesn’t pick winners.

I used to get annoyed at coach favoritism but then I genuinely appreciated the coach(es).

There are obviously some abusers. Science Olympiad lead would stack good teams and events for her kid. It is still a lot of work and if I did all this work, I would probably also give my own kid the events he wanted and partner he wants and the people we don’t know would randomly be paired. It is what it is.

There's likely some element of a soccer coach's kid actually being better at soccer because that parent has made soccer a priority for their family.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with you OP. I have two friends who volunteer for everything their kids do. They do it because they know it gets their kids things that the other kids don't get. But these moms in general have no lives of their own. I feel bad for the kids, actually, because they have nothing for themselves. They also think that they earned these special extras because of their talent/hard work, they will end up being very disappointed later in life when they realize they have to so the work or that they weren't as talented as they thought.

None of this is true, but if it makes you feel better to think ill of those who help out in your community, not one can stop your bitterness.

It is 100% true. The parents are trying to get their kids more or better advantages than the other kids. When they are "helping" the person heading the event, sport, or whatever feels the need to let the volunteers kid more field time, the better position, stay longer, get more whatever. I have actually seen it done. It's very frustrating.

NP. This mainly just comes off as a cope from someone who refuses to help make any of the things their kid benefits from actually happen.

So then you agree that parents are doing it to "make things happen" for their kids. Thank you for agreeing and seeing it for what it is.

DP - you can’t be this dense. Make things happen means things like making the field trip or class party happen. Things your kid benefits from even though you’re too lazy to lift a finger but are happy to take advantage of. Put your money where your mouth is and opt out of the field trip and party next time.

I'm not talking about the small number of parents to are actually helpful. I am talking about the parents who sign up for things just to get their kid more "stuff". You know who they are. They're relentless, asskiss, and play the game. You don't have to admit to it, but I'm guessing you're one of them. And now you're going to get on your high horse and say... absolutely not blah, blah, blah. What do you think happens when your kid goes out into the real world without you???

So what volunteering do you do at your child’s school?

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with you OP. I have two friends who volunteer for everything their kids do. They do it because they know it gets their kids things that the other kids don't get. But these moms in general have no lives of their own. I feel bad for the kids, actually, because they have nothing for themselves. They also think that they earned these special extras because of their talent/hard work, they will end up being very disappointed later in life when they realize they have to so the work or that they weren't as talented as they thought.

None of this is true, but if it makes you feel better to think ill of those who help out in your community, not one can stop your bitterness.

It is 100% true. The parents are trying to get their kids more or better advantages than the other kids. When they are "helping" the person heading the event, sport, or whatever feels the need to let the volunteers kid more field time, the better position, stay longer, get more whatever. I have actually seen it done. It's very frustrating.

NP. This mainly just comes off as a cope from someone who refuses to help make any of the things their kid benefits from actually happen.

So then you agree that parents are doing it to "make things happen" for their kids. Thank you for agreeing and seeing it for what it is.

DP - you can’t be this dense. Make things happen means things like making the field trip or class party happen. Things your kid benefits from even though you’re too lazy to lift a finger but are happy to take advantage of. Put your money where your mouth is and opt out of the field trip and party next time.

I'm not talking about the small number of parents to are actually helpful. I am talking about the parents who sign up for things just to get their kid more "stuff". You know who they are. They're relentless, asskiss, and play the game. You don't have to admit to it, but I'm guessing you're one of them. And now you're going to get on your high horse and say... absolutely not blah, blah, blah. What do you think happens when your kid goes out into the real world without you???

The volunteer doesn’t pick winners.

I used to get annoyed at coach favoritism but then I genuinely appreciated the coach(es).

There are obviously some abusers. Science Olympiad lead would stack good teams and events for her kid. It is still a lot of work and if I did all this work, I would probably also give my own kid the events he wanted and partner he wants and the people we don’t know would randomly be paired. It is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with you OP. I have two friends who volunteer for everything their kids do. They do it because they know it gets their kids things that the other kids don't get. But these moms in general have no lives of their own. I feel bad for the kids, actually, because they have nothing for themselves. They also think that they earned these special extras because of their talent/hard work, they will end up being very disappointed later in life when they realize they have to so the work or that they weren't as talented as they thought.

None of this is true, but if it makes you feel better to think ill of those who help out in your community, not one can stop your bitterness.

It is 100% true. The parents are trying to get their kids more or better advantages than the other kids. When they are "helping" the person heading the event, sport, or whatever feels the need to let the volunteers kid more field time, the better position, stay longer, get more whatever. I have actually seen it done. It's very frustrating.

NP. This mainly just comes off as a cope from someone who refuses to help make any of the things their kid benefits from actually happen.

So then you agree that parents are doing it to "make things happen" for their kids. Thank you for agreeing and seeing it for what it is.

DP - you can’t be this dense. Make things happen means things like making the field trip or class party happen. Things your kid benefits from even though you’re too lazy to lift a finger but are happy to take advantage of. Put your money where your mouth is and opt out of the field trip and party next time.

I'm not talking about the small number of parents to are actually helpful. I am talking about the parents who sign up for things just to get their kid more "stuff". You know who they are. They're relentless, asskiss, and play the game. You don't have to admit to it, but I'm guessing you're one of them. And now you're going to get on your high horse and say... absolutely not blah, blah, blah. What do you think happens when your kid goes out into the real world without you???

In my experience, the volunteers typically go out of their way not to preference their own kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with you OP. I have two friends who volunteer for everything their kids do. They do it because they know it gets their kids things that the other kids don't get. But these moms in general have no lives of their own. I feel bad for the kids, actually, because they have nothing for themselves. They also think that they earned these special extras because of their talent/hard work, they will end up being very disappointed later in life when they realize they have to so the work or that they weren't as talented as they thought.

None of this is true, but if it makes you feel better to think ill of those who help out in your community, not one can stop your bitterness.

It is 100% true. The parents are trying to get their kids more or better advantages than the other kids. When they are "helping" the person heading the event, sport, or whatever feels the need to let the volunteers kid more field time, the better position, stay longer, get more whatever. I have actually seen it done. It's very frustrating.

NP. This mainly just comes off as a cope from someone who refuses to help make any of the things their kid benefits from actually happen.

So then you agree that parents are doing it to "make things happen" for their kids. Thank you for agreeing and seeing it for what it is.

DP - you can’t be this dense. Make things happen means things like making the field trip or class party happen. Things your kid benefits from even though you’re too lazy to lift a finger but are happy to take advantage of. Put your money where your mouth is and opt out of the field trip and party next time.

I'm not talking about the small number of parents to are actually helpful. I am talking about the parents who sign up for things just to get their kid more "stuff". You know who they are. They're relentless, asskiss, and play the game. You don't have to admit to it, but I'm guessing you're one of them. And now you're going to get on your high horse and say... absolutely not blah, blah, blah. What do you think happens when your kid goes out into the real world without you???

Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

NGL the kids legit love me. People who enjoy and talk with kids are usually nice people and thus, the kids like ‘em.