Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.
They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.
Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.
Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?
Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.
Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.
I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.
What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.
No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.
this is untrue. It's simply illogical to assume that every person who ends up in these circumstances is intrinsically a good person who had never wronged anyone or done anything wrong and is always a victim. Yes, many indeed are, and it's their stories that make media attention. But it's statistically impossible that all good people are poor and homeless and the only evil or bad people out there who had wronged others are those who pay their own living. They are HUMAN. There are bad and good humans among the poor and among the rich.
Did anyone on this entire thread claim anything different? Even bad people don't choose to live in sqalor on the streets. Yes, not an insignificant number of them are probably out of prison (again, mental illness, drugs, hell even being bad), but as you said yourself, they are human. Even prisoners get three meals a day, a bed and clothing.
Just go to SF where they have cheap hotels in Tenderloin where a lot of degeneracy takes place. Just because many of these people are housed it's still a skid row.
Again, did you post what your solution to the problem is and I missed it?
Yes, I did and you missed it. I posted about rural farm compounds and urban micro apartments with rules of behavior and part time labor requirements for body able and not too far gone. And institutions for those needing caretakers or those who are severely mentally ill and especially violent. NYC has a lot of the latter kind who attack pedestrians and people in subway stations to the point where there are cops now stationed and patrolling for a while now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.
They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.
Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.
Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?
Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.
Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.
I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.
What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.
No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.
this is untrue. It's simply illogical to assume that every person who ends up in these circumstances is intrinsically a good person who had never wronged anyone or done anything wrong and is always a victim. Yes, many indeed are, and it's their stories that make media attention. But it's statistically impossible that all good people are poor and homeless and the only evil or bad people out there who had wronged others are those who pay their own living. They are HUMAN. There are bad and good humans among the poor and among the rich.
Did anyone on this entire thread claim anything different? Even bad people don't choose to live in sqalor on the streets. Yes, not an insignificant number of them are probably out of prison (again, mental illness, drugs, hell even being bad), but as you said yourself, they are human. Even prisoners get three meals a day, a bed and clothing.
Just go to SF where they have cheap hotels in Tenderloin where a lot of degeneracy takes place. Just because many of these people are housed it's still a skid row.
Again, did you post what your solution to the problem is and I missed it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:well they didn't get the homeless guy who smeared excrement all over a Wisconsin Ave building door just this past Sunday. I don't like Trump but they can come get that guy.
And take him where? I mean I'm all for housing these people and institutionalizing them if they need to be monitored, but Trump isn't doing that.
Except he is the first president in a long time to take a concrete step TOWARDS "doing that" which is more than previous administrations have done. He has made it a priority through the EO cited above. More federal funding, and greater ease in civil commitment. I imagine this EO has spurred all sorts of folks to begin planning new facilities. Building takes time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.
They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.
Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.
Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?
Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.
Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.
I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.
What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.
No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.
this is untrue. It's simply illogical to assume that every person who ends up in these circumstances is intrinsically a good person who had never wronged anyone or done anything wrong and is always a victim. Yes, many indeed are, and it's their stories that make media attention. But it's statistically impossible that all good people are poor and homeless and the only evil or bad people out there who had wronged others are those who pay their own living. They are HUMAN. There are bad and good humans among the poor and among the rich.
Did anyone on this entire thread claim anything different? Even bad people don't choose to live in sqalor on the streets. Yes, not an insignificant number of them are probably out of prison (again, mental illness, drugs, hell even being bad), but as you said yourself, they are human. Even prisoners get three meals a day, a bed and clothing.
Just go to SF where they have cheap hotels in Tenderloin where a lot of degeneracy takes place. Just because many of these people are housed it's still a skid row.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:well they didn't get the homeless guy who smeared excrement all over a Wisconsin Ave building door just this past Sunday. I don't like Trump but they can come get that guy.
And take him where? I mean I'm all for housing these people and institutionalizing them if they need to be monitored, but Trump isn't doing that.
Except he is the first president in a long time to take a concrete step TOWARDS "doing that" which is more than previous administrations have done. He has made it a priority through the EO cited above. More federal funding, and greater ease in civil commitment. I imagine this EO has spurred all sorts of folks to begin planning new facilities. Building takes time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.
They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.
Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.
Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?
Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.
Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.
I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.
What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.
No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.
this is untrue. It's simply illogical to assume that every person who ends up in these circumstances is intrinsically a good person who had never wronged anyone or done anything wrong and is always a victim. Yes, many indeed are, and it's their stories that make media attention. But it's statistically impossible that all good people are poor and homeless and the only evil or bad people out there who had wronged others are those who pay their own living. They are HUMAN. There are bad and good humans among the poor and among the rich.
Did anyone on this entire thread claim anything different? Even bad people don't choose to live in sqalor on the streets. Yes, not an insignificant number of them are probably out of prison (again, mental illness, drugs, hell even being bad), but as you said yourself, they are human. Even prisoners get three meals a day, a bed and clothing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:well they didn't get the homeless guy who smeared excrement all over a Wisconsin Ave building door just this past Sunday. I don't like Trump but they can come get that guy.
And take him where? I mean I'm all for housing these people and institutionalizing them if they need to be monitored, but Trump isn't doing that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:well they didn't get the homeless guy who smeared excrement all over a Wisconsin Ave building door just this past Sunday. I don't like Trump but they can come get that guy.
And take him where? I mean I'm all for housing these people and institutionalizing them if they need to be monitored, but Trump isn't doing that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.
They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.
Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.
Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?
Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.
Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.
I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.
What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.
No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.
Yes, they do. I know a woman in her 70s who can't afford an apt any more. She would rather live in her car with her cat than live in a a high rise apt bldg without her car. She's "managing" on a $1200 monthly security check and help from those of us who know her. She has schizophrenia and does not want to take meds. She used to be a vet tech.
Well she's mentally ill so that's why she is "choosing" to live that way. You can't be serious that you don't understand that. Did she choose to be mentally ill?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:well they didn't get the homeless guy who smeared excrement all over a Wisconsin Ave building door just this past Sunday. I don't like Trump but they can come get that guy.
And take him where? I mean I'm all for housing these people and institutionalizing them if they need to be monitored, but Trump isn't doing that.
To the place that compassionate and generous Democrats in the DC area made available for all the homeless individuals.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.
They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.
Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.
Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?
Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.
Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.
I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.
What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.
No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.
this is untrue. It's simply illogical to assume that every person who ends up in these circumstances is intrinsically a good person who had never wronged anyone or done anything wrong and is always a victim. Yes, many indeed are, and it's their stories that make media attention. But it's statistically impossible that all good people are poor and homeless and the only evil or bad people out there who had wronged others are those who pay their own living. They are HUMAN. There are bad and good humans among the poor and among the rich.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.
They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.
Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.
Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?
Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.
Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.
I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.
What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.
No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.
Exactly. But the PP is very eager to claim moral superiority so she can feel better about herself (or himself) and not have to find a solution to a problem or have compassion.
What's your solution? Please share.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.
They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.
Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.
Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?
Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.
Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.
I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.
What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.
No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.
Yes, they do. I know a woman in her 70s who can't afford an apt any more. She would rather live in her car with her cat than live in a a high rise apt bldg without her car. She's "managing" on a $1200 monthly security check and help from those of us who know her. She has schizophrenia and does not want to take meds. She used to be a vet tech.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.
They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.
Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.
Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?
Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.
Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.
I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.
What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.
No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.
this is untrue. It's simply illogical to assume that every person who ends up in these circumstances is intrinsically a good person who had never wronged anyone or done anything wrong and is always a victim. Yes, many indeed are, and it's their stories that make media attention. But it's statistically impossible that all good people are poor and homeless and the only evil or bad people out there who had wronged others are those who pay their own living. They are HUMAN. There are bad and good humans among the poor and among the rich.