Anonymous
07/19/2025 17:32
Subject: Applications down at Middlebury
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Amherst and Williams are the go to LACs for the foreseeable future. They have the cache, prestige, ratings, and huge endowments. No schools will catch them. Middlebury is one of 20-25 schools that will fluctuate but there is a trend to schools in more urban areas and lots of full pay kids are going to SEC schools and BIG 10 schools.
+1
Amherst and Williams both have increasing applicants while Middlebury's is dropping
I looked at CDS data from Middlebury to get a sense of pre-pandemic numbers.
2019-2020 applications: 9754
2018-2019 applications: 9227
What was it this year?
Nearly 12k. No sane person would call this a slide.
Anonymous
07/19/2025 17:24
Subject: Applications down at Middlebury
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sad to see applications down at Middlebury. I really loved it when my kid was touring colleges and it made me wish I could go back to college! Great place for those who don’t mind rural Vermont.
It's not sad. It's not like they're down 50%
It's not 50%, but you'd have to agree that it looks like the start of a long slide. Sadly.
Said no one who understands basic math.
Said a Middlebury parent wondering if making stuff up on DCUM can stop the slide.
Anonymous
07/19/2025 17:08
Subject: Applications down at Middlebury
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sad to see applications down at Middlebury. I really loved it when my kid was touring colleges and it made me wish I could go back to college! Great place for those who don’t mind rural Vermont.
It's not sad. It's not like they're down 50%
It's not 50%, but you'd have to agree that it looks like the start of a long slide. Sadly.
Said no one who understands basic math.
Anonymous
07/19/2025 16:57
Subject: Applications down at Middlebury
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sad to see applications down at Middlebury. I really loved it when my kid was touring colleges and it made me wish I could go back to college! Great place for those who don’t mind rural Vermont.
It's not sad. It's not like they're down 50%
It's not 50%, but you'd have to agree that it looks like the start of a long slide. Sadly.
Anonymous
07/19/2025 15:52
Subject: Applications down at Middlebury
Anonymous wrote:Sad to see applications down at Middlebury. I really loved it when my kid was touring colleges and it made me wish I could go back to college! Great place for those who don’t mind rural Vermont.
It's not sad. It's not like they're down 50%
Anonymous
07/19/2025 14:29
Subject: Applications down at Middlebury
applications are up over 20% from pre-covid years.
Anonymous
07/19/2025 13:30
Subject: Applications down at Middlebury
Anonymous wrote:How can you know this about the SAT scores when half the kids go TO?
Like WashU, Chicago, CMS, NYU, Northeastern, Northwestern, Cornell, etc.?
Anonymous
07/19/2025 12:57
Subject: Applications down at Middlebury
Anonymous wrote:How can you know this about the SAT scores when half the kids go TO?
I was about to write the exact same thing. SAT scores at test optional schools are not a good indicator of college rank or strength of student intellect.
Anonymous
07/19/2025 07:04
Subject: Applications down at Middlebury
Sad to see applications down at Middlebury. I really loved it when my kid was touring colleges and it made me wish I could go back to college! Great place for those who don’t mind rural Vermont.
Anonymous
07/19/2025 06:46
Subject: Applications down at Middlebury
How can you know this about the SAT scores when half the kids go TO?
Anonymous
07/19/2025 05:38
Subject: Re:Applications down at Middlebury
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Amherst, Williams, Pomona, Swarthmore, Carleton, Bowdoin are all damn near identical. Don’t get the ranking foolishness done here.
On the same level, yes. Identical, no. There are defining features of each of these colleges. It is wild to claim that Pomona in southern California is the same experience as Carleton in small town Minnesota is the same experience as Williams in rural Massachusetts.
This is not correct. Carleton
Grinnell is every bit as good as any of them as well. The leaders of any one of those schools would agree.
+1
There are a set of schools with average SAT scores of 1500 or above: Amherst, Bowdoin, CMC, Middlebury, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
And a group of schools with an average SAT of 1480/1490: Carleton, Grinnell, Hamilton, Haverford, Vassar, W&L
There is no quantifiable difference between any of these 14 schools and it is silly to try and rank them. They all have their own advantages, strengths and quirks. And they are all among the very top schools in the country.
Anonymous
07/19/2025 05:35
Subject: Re:Applications down at Middlebury
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Amherst, Williams, Pomona, Swarthmore, Carleton, Bowdoin are all damn near identical. Don’t get the ranking foolishness done here.
You forgot Middlebury.
+1
Anonymous
07/18/2025 23:02
Subject: Applications down at Middlebury
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Amherst and Williams are the go to LACs for the foreseeable future. They have the cache, prestige, ratings, and huge endowments. No schools will catch them. Middlebury is one of 20-25 schools that will fluctuate but there is a trend to schools in more urban areas and lots of full pay kids are going to SEC schools and BIG 10 schools.
+1
Amherst and Williams both have increasing applicants while Middlebury's is dropping
I looked at CDS data from Middlebury to get a sense of pre-pandemic numbers.
2019-2020 applications: 9754
2018-2019 applications: 9227
What was it this year?
11,831 applications
Anonymous
07/18/2025 21:58
Subject: Re:Applications down at Middlebury
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Amherst, Williams, Pomona, Swarthmore, Carleton, Bowdoin are all damn near identical. Don’t get the ranking foolishness done here.
On the same level, yes. Identical, no. There are defining features of each of these colleges. It is wild to claim that Pomona in southern California is the same experience as Carleton in small town Minnesota is the same experience as Williams in rural Massachusetts.
Grinnell is every bit as good as any of them as well. The leaders of any one of those schools would agree.
+1
There are a set of schools with average SAT scores of 1500 or above: Amherst, Bowdoin, CMC, Middlebury, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
And a group of schools with an average SAT of 1480/1490: Carleton, Grinnell, Hamilton, Haverford, Vassar, W&L
There is no quantifiable difference between any of these 14 schools and it is silly to try and rank them. They all have their own advantages, strengths and quirks. And they are all among the very top schools in the country.
Anonymous
07/18/2025 21:46
Subject: Re:Applications down at Middlebury
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Amherst, Williams, Pomona, Swarthmore, Carleton, Bowdoin are all damn near identical. Don’t get the ranking foolishness done here.
On the same level, yes. Identical, no. There are defining features of each of these colleges. It is wild to claim that Pomona in southern California is the same experience as Carleton in small town Minnesota is the same experience as Williams in rural Massachusetts.
Grinnell is every bit as good as any of them as well. The leaders of any one of those schools would agree.