Anonymous
Post 07/09/2025 10:57     Subject: NVSL Relay carnivals
Anonymous wrote:I see an awards section on the map. How does that work? Is it the top 3 relay teams? Is it presented during the relays or after? This feels like a late night!


Yes its a late night. You don't need to know all these details. Just soak in it and be in the moment.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2025 10:44     Subject: NVSL Relay carnivals
I see an awards section on the map. How does that work? Is it the top 3 relay teams? Is it presented during the relays or after? This feels like a late night!
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2025 10:35     Subject: Re:NVSL Relay carnivals
NVSL posted the following:

IT’S MEET DAY!!! Good luck to all of our athletes at All Star Relays!

Watch the livestream here: https://www.youtube.com/live/LYSU1AF5Hkk?si=NKpUjotOYvf0FNSv

If weather affects the meet in any way, all updates will be posted to our social media channels and homepage of our website. Please obey all instructions from meet managers, officials, and pool staff. Do not leave!

EVERY EFFORT will be made to swim EVERY EVENT. However, if continued thunder and lightning prevents us from resuming the meet, please note NVSL Rule 1(n): "If any events of an All-Star Meet cannot be swum on the date originally scheduled, the events shall be canceled and not rescheduled. Awards (but not points) for any events not swum shall be made based on the meet’s final seeding. Team trophies for the All-Star Relay Carnival shall be awarded based on the results of completed events but shall not be awarded unless at least 12 events have been swum."
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2025 10:19     Subject: NVSL Relay carnivals
Anonymous wrote:This is our first time swimming the all star relay today. The weather looks awful. I am trying to avoid bugging our team rep. How does it work if it literally rains all night?

Are you seriously going to be that parent that bugs the team rep about the weather? Are they a meteorologist that can predict what will happen 8 hours from now. Just stop. You sound crazy.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2025 09:41     Subject: NVSL Relay carnivals
You just go. No point stressing about the weather, if it rains it rains. If it thunders, they delay.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2025 09:36     Subject: NVSL Relay carnivals
Anonymous wrote:This is our first time swimming the all star relay today. The weather looks awful. I am trying to avoid bugging our team rep. How does it work if it literally rains all night?


Just chill. Do not bug the team rep- they will contact you if there is any news.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2025 09:35     Subject: NVSL Relay carnivals
This is our first time swimming the all star relay today. The weather looks awful. I am trying to avoid bugging our team rep. How does it work if it literally rains all night?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 23:12     Subject: Re:NVSL Relay carnivals
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Anonymous wrote:5 of our relays didn’t make it. Pretty solid overall.


You may have miscounted.


I didn’t but thanks for checking


My bad. I accidentally included Highland Park. Great swims Highlands and congratulations.


Not Highlands but congratulations to them as well!


Tuckahoe 21
Chesterbrook 20
Overlee 19
OKM 18
Highlands 17
Vienna Aquatic 16
Wakefield Chapel 16
Oakton 14
Fairfax 13
Donaldson Run 12
Fair oaks 11
Lakeview 10
Kent Gardens 10
Mantua 10
Vienna woods 10

#of relays/team seeded in top 6:
Tuckahoe - 16✔️ (3 one-seeds)
Chesterbrook - 15✔️ (1 one-seed)
OKM - 13✔️ (3 one-seeds)
Overlee - 10✔️ (4 one-seeds)
Highlands - *9 corrected
Donaldson Run - 7✔️ (1 one-seed)
Oakton - 6✔️ (1 one-seed)
Orange Hunt - 4✔️
Crosspointe - *5 corrected (2 one-seeds)
Lakeview - 4✔️ (D8, yay!)
Fair Oaks - 4✔️ (2 one-seeds!)
Wakefield Chapel - 4✔️ (2 one-seeds!)
Vienna Aquatic - 3✔️
Langley - *4 corrected
Fairfax - 3✔️ (1 one-seed)
Kent Gardens - 1✔️
Mantua - 1✔️
Vienna woods - 1✔️

Data person here, eyeballing the psych sheet, so possible errors follow.

https://www.mynvsl.com/file/37005/2025_nvsl_all_star_relay_top_19_psych_pdf

—I think Highlands has 9 relays in the top six. Langley has 4 relays in the top six. And Crosspointe has 5 relays in the top six. I fixed it above.

—Oakton is #7 four times, which shows how strong that team is. I suspect they go up to D1 next season.

— Look at Greenbriar with a one-seed in 15-18 Boys Medley!

— High Point Pool and Rolling Hills have 2 relays in the top six.

— Super close top-seeds include:
Boys Mixed relay (1-3 are close)
Boys 11-12 Medley (1-2 and 4-6 are close)
Boys 9-10 Medley (3-6 are close)
Girls 11-12 Medley (2-6 are super close)
Girls 13-14 Medley (2-6 are super close)
Girls 15-18 Medley (4-6 are close)
Boys 15-18 Medley (1-4 are super close)
Boys 8U Free (2-3 and 5-6 are close)
Girls 9-10 Free (2-3 and 4-5 are close)
Boys 9-10 Free (1-2 and 5-6 are close)
Girls 11-12 Free (holy cow that D1 race must have been nuts!)
Boys 11-12 Free (2-3 are close)
Boys 13-14 Free (2-3 and 4-6 are close)
Boys 13-14 Free (4-6 are close)
Girls 15-18 Free (1-2 and 5-6 are close)
Boys 15-18 Free (1-3 and 4-6 are so close)

— Wakefield Chapel 8U Girls are fire!

—Other notable top 6 relays:
Hamlet - 1
Dunn Loring - 1
Ravensworth Farm - 1
Hiddenbrook - 1
SHRA - 1
Parklawn - 1 (a two seed)
South Run - 1
Little Rocky Run - 1
Lee Graham - 1
Dominion Hills (D8) - 1
(Greenbriar, D10, mentioned above) - 1
Little Hunting Park - 1
Fairfax Club Estates (D12) - 1
Parklawn - 1
Sleepy Hollow BR - 1
Mantua - 1
Canterbury Woods - 1
Parliament (D14, woot woot!) - 1

I know it irritates people when Overlee, Tuckahoe, and Chesterbrook take over the spectator seating (I don’t mean the single event viewing), but looking at the teams with a relay in almost every event, isn’t it fair to allow them to split up the spectator bleachers? I am okay with teams that have 16+ relays splitting up the spectator seating. What isn’t fair is for one or two teams to crowd out the rest of the teams who also have high numbers of relays. SOOOO…tomorrow, Overlee, Chesterbrook, and Tuckahoe: please share the bleachers with Old Keene Mill, Highlands, Vienna Aquatic, and Wakefield Chapel, ‘kay?


I know it irritates people when Overlee, Tuckahoe, and Chesterbrook take over the spectator seating (I don’t mean the single event viewing), but looking at the teams with a relay in almost every event, isn’t it fair to allow them to split up the spectator bleachers? I am okay with teams that have 16+ relays splitting up the spectator seating. What isn’t fair is for one or two teams to crowd out the rest of the teams who also have high numbers of relays. SOOOO…tomorrow, Overlee, Chesterbrook, and Tuckahoe: please share the bleachers with Old Keene Mill, Highlands, Vienna Aquatic, and Wakefield Chapel, ‘kay?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 23:11     Subject: Re:NVSL Relay carnivals
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Anonymous wrote:5 of our relays didn’t make it. Pretty solid overall.


You may have miscounted.


I didn’t but thanks for checking


My bad. I accidentally included Highland Park. Great swims Highlands and congratulations.


Not Highlands but congratulations to them as well!


Tuckahoe 21
Chesterbrook 20
Overlee 19
OKM 18
Highlands 17
Vienna Aquatic 16
Wakefield Chapel 16
Oakton 14
Fairfax 13
Donaldson Run 12
Fair oaks 11
Lakeview 10
Kent Gardens 10
Mantua 10
Vienna woods 10

#of relays/team seeded in top 6:
Tuckahoe - 16✔️ (3 one-seeds)
Chesterbrook - 15✔️ (1 one-seed)
OKM - 13✔️ (3 one-seeds)
Overlee - 10✔️ (4 one-seeds)
Highlands - *9 corrected
Donaldson Run - 7✔️ (1 one-seed)
Oakton - 6✔️ (1 one-seed)
Orange Hunt - 4✔️
Crosspointe - *5 corrected (2 one-seeds)
Lakeview - 4✔️ (D8, yay!)
Fair Oaks - 4✔️ (2 one-seeds!)
Wakefield Chapel - 4✔️ (2 one-seeds!)
Vienna Aquatic - 3✔️
Langley - *4 corrected
Fairfax - 3✔️ (1 one-seed)
Kent Gardens - 1✔️
Mantua - 1✔️
Vienna woods - 1✔️

Data person here, eyeballing the psych sheet, so possible errors follow.

https://www.mynvsl.com/file/37005/2025_nvsl_all_star_relay_top_19_psych_pdf

—I think Highlands has 9 relays in the top six. Langley has 4 relays in the top six. And Crosspointe has 5 relays in the top six. I fixed it above.

—Oakton is #7 four times, which shows how strong that team is. I suspect they go up to D1 next season.

— Look at Greenbriar with a one-seed in 15-18 Boys Medley!

— High Point Pool and Rolling Hills have 2 relays in the top six.

— Super close top-seeds include:
Boys Mixed relay (1-3 are close)
Boys 11-12 Medley (1-2 and 4-6 are close)
Boys 9-10 Medley (3-6 are close)
Girls 11-12 Medley (2-6 are super close)
Girls 13-14 Medley (2-6 are super close)
Girls 15-18 Medley (4-6 are close)
Boys 15-18 Medley (1-4 are super close)
Boys 8U Free (2-3 and 5-6 are close)
Girls 9-10 Free (2-3 and 4-5 are close)
Boys 9-10 Free (1-2 and 5-6 are close)
Girls 11-12 Free (holy cow that D1 race must have been nuts!)
Boys 11-12 Free (2-3 are close)
Boys 13-14 Free (2-3 and 4-6 are close)
Boys 13-14 Free (4-6 are close)
Girls 15-18 Free (1-2 and 5-6 are close)
Boys 15-18 Free (1-3 and 4-6 are so close)

— Wakefield Chapel 8U Girls are fire!

—Other notable top 6 relays:
Hamlet - 1
Dunn Loring - 1
Ravensworth Farm - 1
Hiddenbrook - 1
SHRA - 1
Parklawn - 1 (a two seed)
South Run - 1
Little Rocky Run - 1
Lee Graham - 1
Dominion Hills (D8) - 1
(Greenbriar, D10, mentioned above) - 1
Little Hunting Park - 1
Fairfax Club Estates (D12) - 1
Parklawn - 1
Sleepy Hollow BR - 1
Mantua - 1
Canterbury Woods - 1
Parliament (D14, woot woot!) - 1


I know it irritates people when Overlee, Tuckahoe, and Chesterbrook take over the spectator seating (I don’t mean the single event viewing), but looking at the teams with a relay in almost every event, isn’t it fair to allow them to split up the spectator bleachers? I am okay with teams that have 16+ relays splitting up the spectator seating. What isn’t fair is for one or two teams to crowd out the rest of the teams who also have high numbers of relays. SOOOO…tomorrow, Overlee, Chesterbrook, and Tuckahoe: please share the bleachers with Old Keene Mill, Highlands, Vienna Aquatic, and Wakefield Chapel, ‘kay?
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2025 07:39     Subject: NVSL Relay carnivals
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Anonymous wrote:Kids in Junior champs are not swimming Saturday morning.


I know to who are. I'm not saying they should be, but they are. Leaving before s relays...


Junior Champs warmups are at noon on Saturday. Anyone from NoVa would probably need to leave NoVa around 11am or earlier. Of course the swimmer could later and warm up in the 25y pool and swim a later event.


Thank you WTOP. Kids can have different priorities. Best of luck to those who are swimming the A meet, champs, or both.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2025 07:37     Subject: NVSL Relay carnivals
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Anonymous wrote:Kids in Junior champs are not swimming Saturday morning.


I know to who are. I'm not saying they should be, but they are. Leaving before s relays...


Junior Champs warmups are at noon on Saturday. Anyone from NoVa would probably need to leave NoVa around 11am or earlier. Of course the swimmer could later and warm up in the 25y pool and swim a later event.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2025 06:31     Subject: NVSL Relay carnivals
Anonymous wrote:Kids in Junior champs are not swimming Saturday morning.


I know to who are. I'm not saying they should be, but they are. Leaving before s relays...
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2025 05:04     Subject: NVSL Relay carnivals
Kids in Junior champs are not swimming Saturday morning.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2025 20:35     Subject: NVSL Relay carnivals
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Anonymous wrote:NVSL leaderboard means nothing, especially ages 13+. Two things. First, top tier swimmers are only swimming a couple of summer meets per season due to club meets. Two, division 1 swimmers are suited for every meet, and lower division teams are not.


PVS meets seem to _avoid_ Saturday mornings, which limits A meet conflicts. Are you thinking only of meets further afield? Because it's often possible to get back from those and swim summer team as well if a swimmer is committed to doing so. I've seen it done.


There have been a few. A Machine meet in June and NCAP Elite Qualifier last weekend all had events on Saturday and many swimmers mixed NVSL. This weekend is PVS open champs, also on Saturday.



Some of the meets like the Mach June meet held the distance session on Saturday afternoon to mitigate conflicts. For PV champs it’s trickier this season with the incorporation of 50s to the event schedule.



14 and Under Champs is not having any swimming on Saturday, which I am assuming is because they are deferring to summer swim. I don’t think Junior/Senior champs is as concerned with summer swim. By the time swimmers are no longer age groupers they are generally less concerned with conflicts between club meets and summer meets.


Plus it’s only senior champs that is affected as junior champs is in the afternoon.

The only people swimming a Summer League Dual meet over Senior Champs are just the super talented very uncommitted swimmers which are not the ones younger swimmers should be looking to duplicate.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2025 18:15     Subject: NVSL Relay carnivals
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Anonymous wrote:NVSL leaderboard means nothing, especially ages 13+. Two things. First, top tier swimmers are only swimming a couple of summer meets per season due to club meets. Two, division 1 swimmers are suited for every meet, and lower division teams are not.


PVS meets seem to _avoid_ Saturday mornings, which limits A meet conflicts. Are you thinking only of meets further afield? Because it's often possible to get back from those and swim summer team as well if a swimmer is committed to doing so. I've seen it done.


There have been a few. A Machine meet in June and NCAP Elite Qualifier last weekend all had events on Saturday and many swimmers mixed NVSL. This weekend is PVS open champs, also on Saturday.



Some of the meets like the Mach June meet held the distance session on Saturday afternoon to mitigate conflicts. For PV champs it’s trickier this season with the incorporation of 50s to the event schedule.



14 and Under Champs is not having any swimming on Saturday, which I am assuming is because they are deferring to summer swim. I don’t think Junior/Senior champs is as concerned with summer swim. By the time swimmers are no longer age groupers they are generally less concerned with conflicts between club meets and summer meets.