Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some smart lawyer should sue the State of Georgia on behalf of this family for Georgia to be responsible for all medical bills prior to and after birth if child is handicapped in any way.
Sue the doctors who committed medical negligence and would not even give her a CT scan.
Anonymous wrote:Some smart lawyer should sue the State of Georgia on behalf of this family for Georgia to be responsible for all medical bills prior to and after birth if child is handicapped in any way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.
Children do not spend years in vent wards.
They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.
You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.
Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”
Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.
Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?
And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?
I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.
Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.
[/b]Each family should have a choice.
Chance is not a chronic vent patient.
Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?
What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?
They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.
Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?
Great, the bolded is all that matters and can stop debating
[b]Adriana Smith’s baby is “doing better,” her mother said, in follow-up to 11Alive’s report
On Monday, Newkirk shared that her unborn grandson — whom the family has named Chance — is continuing to grow.
“The baby is actually doing better than the last time I met with the doctors,” she said.
Newkirk explained Smith is receiving steroids and nutrition through a PICC line. She added that baby Chance's heartbeat is strong and that he's measuring slightly above average in weight for his gestational age.
“He has his toes, arms, limbs — everything is forming,” she said. “We're just hoping he makes it.”
Great. The only point relevant here is that the family is allowed to choose. The end.
Then why were dcum posts insisting this baby was blind and disabled and would never live or lead a life of any kind?
People can search back and see all the sick lies told about this child.
You're like a dog with a bone. You have posted the same thing multiple times. Give it a rest.
Their point is that a family should have a choice in such a situation. You posted that you agree, the family should have a choice. You are in agreement. You also can let it go.
We’re just hoping he makes it’: Family shares update on unborn baby of Georgia mom who is brain dead, on life support
Adriana Smith’s baby is “doing better,” her mother said, in follow-up to 11Alive’s report
On Monday, Newkirk shared that her unborn grandson — whom the family has named Chance — is continuing to grow.
“The baby is actually doing better than the last time I met with the doctors,” she said.
Newkirk explained Smith is receiving steroids and nutrition through a PICC line. She added that baby Chance's heartbeat is strong and that he's measuring slightly above average in weight for his gestational age.
“He has his toes, arms, limbs — everything is forming,” she said. “We're just hoping he makes it.”
https://www.11alive.com/a...YxyLlsyeOg
The family wanted baby Chance. They named him Chance because he has a second chance at life.
How many times are you going to post the same article?? JFC. Enough already.
Anonymous wrote:Some smart lawyer should sue the State of Georgia on behalf of this family for Georgia to be responsible for all medical bills prior to and after birth if child is handicapped in any way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.
Children do not spend years in vent wards.
They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.
You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.
Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”
Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.
Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?
And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?
I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.
Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.
[/b]Each family should have a choice.
Chance is not a chronic vent patient.
Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?
What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?
They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.
Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?
Great, the bolded is all that matters and can stop debating
[b]Adriana Smith’s baby is “doing better,” her mother said, in follow-up to 11Alive’s report
On Monday, Newkirk shared that her unborn grandson — whom the family has named Chance — is continuing to grow.
“The baby is actually doing better than the last time I met with the doctors,” she said.
Newkirk explained Smith is receiving steroids and nutrition through a PICC line. She added that baby Chance's heartbeat is strong and that he's measuring slightly above average in weight for his gestational age.
“He has his toes, arms, limbs — everything is forming,” she said. “We're just hoping he makes it.”
Great. The only point relevant here is that the family is allowed to choose. The end.
Then why were dcum posts insisting this baby was blind and disabled and would never live or lead a life of any kind?
People can search back and see all the sick lies told about this child.
You're like a dog with a bone. You have posted the same thing multiple times. Give it a rest.
Their point is that a family should have a choice in such a situation. You posted that you agree, the family should have a choice. You are in agreement. You also can let it go.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.
Children do not spend years in vent wards.
They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.
You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.
Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”
Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.
Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?
And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?
I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.
Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.
[/b]Each family should have a choice.
Chance is not a chronic vent patient.
Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?
What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?
They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.
Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?
Great, the bolded is all that matters and can stop debating
[b]Adriana Smith’s baby is “doing better,” her mother said, in follow-up to 11Alive’s report
On Monday, Newkirk shared that her unborn grandson — whom the family has named Chance — is continuing to grow.
“The baby is actually doing better than the last time I met with the doctors,” she said.
Newkirk explained Smith is receiving steroids and nutrition through a PICC line. She added that baby Chance's heartbeat is strong and that he's measuring slightly above average in weight for his gestational age.
“He has his toes, arms, limbs — everything is forming,” she said. “We're just hoping he makes it.”
Great. The only point relevant here is that the family is allowed to choose. The end.
Then why were dcum posts insisting this baby was blind and disabled and would never live or lead a life of any kind?
People can search back and see all the sick lies told about this child.
You're like a dog with a bone. You have posted the same thing multiple times. Give it a rest.
Their point is that a family should have a choice in such a situation. You posted that you agree, the family should have a choice. You are in agreement. You also can let it go.
We’re just hoping he makes it’: Family shares update on unborn baby of Georgia mom who is brain dead, on life support
Adriana Smith’s baby is “doing better,” her mother said, in follow-up to 11Alive’s report
On Monday, Newkirk shared that her unborn grandson — whom the family has named Chance — is continuing to grow.
“The baby is actually doing better than the last time I met with the doctors,” she said.
Newkirk explained Smith is receiving steroids and nutrition through a PICC line. She added that baby Chance's heartbeat is strong and that he's measuring slightly above average in weight for his gestational age.
“He has his toes, arms, limbs — everything is forming,” she said. “We're just hoping he makes it.”
https://www.11alive.com/a...YxyLlsyeOg
The family wanted baby Chance. They named him Chance because he has a second chance at life.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.
Children do not spend years in vent wards.
They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.
You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.
Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”
Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.
Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?
And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?
I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.
Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.
[/b]Each family should have a choice.
Chance is not a chronic vent patient.
Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?
What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?
They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.
Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?
Great, the bolded is all that matters and can stop debating
[b]Adriana Smith’s baby is “doing better,” her mother said, in follow-up to 11Alive’s report
On Monday, Newkirk shared that her unborn grandson — whom the family has named Chance — is continuing to grow.
“The baby is actually doing better than the last time I met with the doctors,” she said.
Newkirk explained Smith is receiving steroids and nutrition through a PICC line. She added that baby Chance's heartbeat is strong and that he's measuring slightly above average in weight for his gestational age.
“He has his toes, arms, limbs — everything is forming,” she said. “We're just hoping he makes it.”
Great. The only point relevant here is that the family is allowed to choose. The end.
Then why were dcum posts insisting this baby was blind and disabled and would never live or lead a life of any kind?
People can search back and see all the sick lies told about this child.
You're like a dog with a bone. You have posted the same thing multiple times. Give it a rest.
Their point is that a family should have a choice in such a situation. You posted that you agree, the family should have a choice. You are in agreement. You also can let it go.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is so sick.
The family will be bankrupted for the rest of their lives because their daughter could not get decent medical care in the first place.
If you want to save all the fetuses, then the US needs universal health care.
I'm positive that the hospital put her on medicaid the minute she lost her job and insurance. That said, I hope nothing like this every happens to me or anyone I love or even know. Sick society.
Anonymous wrote:This is so sick.
The family will be bankrupted for the rest of their lives because their daughter could not get decent medical care in the first place.
If you want to save all the fetuses, then the US needs universal health care.
Anonymous wrote:This is so sick.
The family will be bankrupted for the rest of their lives because their daughter could not get decent medical care in the first place.
If you want to save all the fetuses, then the US needs universal health care.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.
Children do not spend years in vent wards.
They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.
You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.
Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”
Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.
Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?
And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?
I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.
Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.
[/b]Each family should have a choice.
Chance is not a chronic vent patient.
Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?
What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?
They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.
Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?
Great, the bolded is all that matters and can stop debating
[b]Adriana Smith’s baby is “doing better,” her mother said, in follow-up to 11Alive’s report
On Monday, Newkirk shared that her unborn grandson — whom the family has named Chance — is continuing to grow.
“The baby is actually doing better than the last time I met with the doctors,” she said.
Newkirk explained Smith is receiving steroids and nutrition through a PICC line. She added that baby Chance's heartbeat is strong and that he's measuring slightly above average in weight for his gestational age.
“He has his toes, arms, limbs — everything is forming,” she said. “We're just hoping he makes it.”
Great. The only point relevant here is that the family is allowed to choose. The end.
Then why were dcum posts insisting this baby was blind and disabled and would never live or lead a life of any kind?
People can search back and see all the sick lies told about this child.
You're like a dog with a bone. You have posted the same thing multiple times. Give it a rest.