Anonymous
07/14/2025 21:37
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
More than 1,000 employees of the US State Department have been laid off as part of the Trump administration's efforts to reduce its federal workforce.
The involuntary staff reductions included 1,107 civil service and 246 foreign service employees, according to a notice sent to State Department employees on Friday and obtained by CBS News, the BBC's US news partner.
More than 1,500 other State Department employees took voluntary departures earlier this year as part of the federal government's massive reorganisation effort.
The involuntary staff reductions included 1,107 civil service and 246 foreign service employees, according to a notice sent to State Department employees on Friday and obtained by CBS News, the BBC's US news partner.
More than 1,500 other State Department employees took voluntary departures earlier this year as part of the federal government's massive reorganisation effort.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 17:33
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.
BARF is this elon?
Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.
What can’t you believe?
It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!
I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.
Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.
Good luck finding jobs. Companies are hiring h1b’s or offshoring.
Well, most people actually aren't getting fired in the private sector because of stupid reasons - most people aren't fired if they are super effective employees who are fulfilling the mission (and certainly aren't targettted when they BECAUSE they are those people) -- and most of the time the person in charge isn't doing it gleefully and telling them they were so terrible all along. Most of the time the firings aren't because the big boss wants to decimate the industry they are in
Spoken like a true fed. Incredible how you work for taxpayers yet know…nothing? about the real world? Just terrifying.
I've only worked in the private sector and never been a fed.
But By stupid reasons i mean because someone is trying to destroy their work and the impact it has on the world . People in the private sector aren't fired because of a large lr egomaniacal desire to destroy their world usually
As someone who's always worked in the private sector, I have seen plenty of highly skilled and competent people laid off. Mass lay offs are tied to both performance and business lines. I've seen profitable business lines shut down because the company decided to go into a different direction. As someone who was laid off, I am sympathetic to what the fed employees are feeling and what they're going through. It's not a pain I wish on anyone.
The Clinton Administration laid off something like 350,000 feds back in the 1990s as part of budget cuts (funny how that is forgotten). The current administration is doubtlessly laying off many feds for ideological reasons, but many people agree with those reasons, not just one or two people. And there's probably some truth to that we have an excess of fed programs and some were absolutely controversial and a lot of, say, USAID funding was spent on controversial schemes. And some fed agencies and people within the agencies did act like an ideological opposition/resistance to administrations they didn't like rather than proper neutral civil servants. We saw the boasts on here quite often. Are these layoffs part of the Trump administration's reminding the agencies of their "proper" place? Yes, certainly.
If you look at some government programs/expenses in isolation, they may seem controversial. In context, most, if not all, make sense. Buying good will to the US or buying information. Reminds me of the scene in Zero Dark Thirty where the CIA employee says he needs $300K - and uses it to buy a car (Ferrari or Maserati or something) for a Kuwaiti who provided information about a telephone number that was eventually a key to finding bin laden. I have no clue if this part of the movie was accurate or fiction - but the point is someone looking at the $300k in isolation would think it was controversial - especially if the information had not panned out.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 17:19
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
I’m a fed praying for a VERA/DSR offer next year.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 17:15
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
Anonymous wrote:If they fired every single Fed, there salaries would still only amount to 4.3% of the Federal budget.
These firings are a waste! It like telling someone $200k in debt that cutting out Starbucks a few times a month will fix the problems.
Any cuts aren’t serious unless they go after military contractors or focus on more efficient tax collection to raise govt income. Go after all the millionaire tax dodgers!
But he’s the president.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 16:52
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
If they fired every single Fed, there salaries would still only amount to 4.3% of the Federal budget.
These firings are a waste! It like telling someone $200k in debt that cutting out Starbucks a few times a month will fix the problems.
Any cuts aren’t serious unless they go after military contractors or focus on more efficient tax collection to raise govt income. Go after all the millionaire tax dodgers!
These firings are a waste! It like telling someone $200k in debt that cutting out Starbucks a few times a month will fix the problems.
Any cuts aren’t serious unless they go after military contractors or focus on more efficient tax collection to raise govt income. Go after all the millionaire tax dodgers!
Anonymous
07/13/2025 15:47
Subject: Re:State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
And there's probably some truth to that we have an excess of fed programs and some were absolutely controversial and a lot of, say, USAID funding was spent on controversial schemes
What "controversial schemes" are you referring to?
Anonymous
07/13/2025 15:08
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
Anonymous wrote:My parents were both federal employees who were laid off and furloughed without pay at different points in their careers from late 1970s through 1990s. Neither worked in DC area so they were more vulnerable to downsizing even though they were considered high performers with awards to show for it. And they were non managerial and not highly paid, gs 9-12.
My dad was laid off several times, retrained miles away from home, rehired then told he’d have to move away from his family to keep his job so he retired early. My mom was laid off during Clinton’s big purge but eventually rehired because a colleague decided to retire so a position opened up for her.
Kudos to your parents!
Anonymous
07/13/2025 14:13
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
My parents were both federal employees who were laid off and furloughed without pay at different points in their careers from late 1970s through 1990s. Neither worked in DC area so they were more vulnerable to downsizing even though they were considered high performers with awards to show for it. And they were non managerial and not highly paid, gs 9-12.
My dad was laid off several times, retrained miles away from home, rehired then told he’d have to move away from his family to keep his job so he retired early. My mom was laid off during Clinton’s big purge but eventually rehired because a colleague decided to retire so a position opened up for her.
My dad was laid off several times, retrained miles away from home, rehired then told he’d have to move away from his family to keep his job so he retired early. My mom was laid off during Clinton’s big purge but eventually rehired because a colleague decided to retire so a position opened up for her.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 11:31
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.
BARF is this elon?
Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.
What can’t you believe?
It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!
I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.
Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.
Good luck finding jobs. Companies are hiring h1b’s or offshoring.
Well, most people actually aren't getting fired in the private sector because of stupid reasons - most people aren't fired if they are super effective employees who are fulfilling the mission (and certainly aren't targettted when they BECAUSE they are those people) -- and most of the time the person in charge isn't doing it gleefully and telling them they were so terrible all along. Most of the time the firings aren't because the big boss wants to decimate the industry they are in
Spoken like a true fed. Incredible how you work for taxpayers yet know…nothing? about the real world? Just terrifying.
I've only worked in the private sector and never been a fed.
But By stupid reasons i mean because someone is trying to destroy their work and the impact it has on the world . People in the private sector aren't fired because of a large lr egomaniacal desire to destroy their world usually
As someone who's always worked in the private sector, I have seen plenty of highly skilled and competent people laid off. Mass lay offs are tied to both performance and business lines. I've seen profitable business lines shut down because the company decided to go into a different direction. As someone who was laid off, I am sympathetic to what the fed employees are feeling and what they're going through. It's not a pain I wish on anyone.
The Clinton Administration laid off something like 350,000 feds back in the 1990s as part of budget cuts (funny how that is forgotten). The current administration is doubtlessly laying off many feds for ideological reasons, but many people agree with those reasons, not just one or two people. And there's probably some truth to that we have an excess of fed programs and some were absolutely controversial and a lot of, say, USAID funding was spent on controversial schemes. And some fed agencies and people within the agencies did act like an ideological opposition/resistance to administrations they didn't like rather than proper neutral civil servants. We saw the boasts on here quite often. Are these layoffs part of the Trump administration's reminding the agencies of their "proper" place? Yes, certainly.
That may be at a high level, but in terms of how they're being carried out, they're not thoughtful at all. My agency was told to cut a certain number of positions - any positions. They didn't care about programs or waste. In fact, our workload has skyrocketed due to the administration's actions, and we are already understaffed so we can't get the work done in a reasonable amount of time and the courts, Congress, and the public have all taken notice, but all OMB wants to see is cuts of any kind for the sake of saying they downsized every agency because government is inherently bad.
I can definitely confirm this. My agency was told to cut X positions. There were a few "nice to have" fluff type jobs that easily went on the list first, but they still had many more positions to find to meet that arbitrary number. That got difficult quickly because the vast majority of positions within in our agengy are core functions that nobody in their right mind would cut.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 09:41
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.
BARF is this elon?
Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.
What can’t you believe?
It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!
I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.
Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.
Good luck finding jobs. Companies are hiring h1b’s or offshoring.
Well, most people actually aren't getting fired in the private sector because of stupid reasons - most people aren't fired if they are super effective employees who are fulfilling the mission (and certainly aren't targettted when they BECAUSE they are those people) -- and most of the time the person in charge isn't doing it gleefully and telling them they were so terrible all along. Most of the time the firings aren't because the big boss wants to decimate the industry they are in
Spoken like a true fed. Incredible how you work for taxpayers yet know…nothing? about the real world? Just terrifying.
I've only worked in the private sector and never been a fed.
But By stupid reasons i mean because someone is trying to destroy their work and the impact it has on the world . People in the private sector aren't fired because of a large lr egomaniacal desire to destroy their world usually
As someone who's always worked in the private sector, I have seen plenty of highly skilled and competent people laid off. Mass lay offs are tied to both performance and business lines. I've seen profitable business lines shut down because the company decided to go into a different direction. As someone who was laid off, I am sympathetic to what the fed employees are feeling and what they're going through. It's not a pain I wish on anyone.
The Clinton Administration laid off something like 350,000 feds back in the 1990s as part of budget cuts (funny how that is forgotten). The current administration is doubtlessly laying off many feds for ideological reasons, but many people agree with those reasons, not just one or two people. And there's probably some truth to that we have an excess of fed programs and some were absolutely controversial and a lot of, say, USAID funding was spent on controversial schemes. And some fed agencies and people within the agencies did act like an ideological opposition/resistance to administrations they didn't like rather than proper neutral civil servants. We saw the boasts on here quite often. Are these layoffs part of the Trump administration's reminding the agencies of their "proper" place? Yes, certainly.
That may be at a high level, but in terms of how they're being carried out, they're not thoughtful at all. My agency was told to cut a certain number of positions - any positions. They didn't care about programs or waste. In fact, our workload has skyrocketed due to the administration's actions, and we are already understaffed so we can't get the work done in a reasonable amount of time and the courts, Congress, and the public have all taken notice, but all OMB wants to see is cuts of any kind for the sake of saying they downsized every agency because government is inherently bad.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 08:11
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.
BARF is this elon?
Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.
What can’t you believe?
It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!
I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.
Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.
Good luck finding jobs. Companies are hiring h1b’s or offshoring.
Well, most people actually aren't getting fired in the private sector because of stupid reasons - most people aren't fired if they are super effective employees who are fulfilling the mission (and certainly aren't targettted when they BECAUSE they are those people) -- and most of the time the person in charge isn't doing it gleefully and telling them they were so terrible all along. Most of the time the firings aren't because the big boss wants to decimate the industry they are in
Spoken like a true fed. Incredible how you work for taxpayers yet know…nothing? about the real world? Just terrifying.
I've only worked in the private sector and never been a fed.
But By stupid reasons i mean because someone is trying to destroy their work and the impact it has on the world . People in the private sector aren't fired because of a large lr egomaniacal desire to destroy their world usually
see tesla
Anonymous
07/13/2025 08:05
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.
BARF is this elon?
Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.
What can’t you believe?
It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!
I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.
Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.
Good luck finding jobs. Companies are hiring h1b’s or offshoring.
Well, most people actually aren't getting fired in the private sector because of stupid reasons - most people aren't fired if they are super effective employees who are fulfilling the mission (and certainly aren't targettted when they BECAUSE they are those people) -- and most of the time the person in charge isn't doing it gleefully and telling them they were so terrible all along. Most of the time the firings aren't because the big boss wants to decimate the industry they are in
Spoken like a true fed. Incredible how you work for taxpayers yet know…nothing? about the real world? Just terrifying.
I've only worked in the private sector and never been a fed.
But By stupid reasons i mean because someone is trying to destroy their work and the impact it has on the world . People in the private sector aren't fired because of a large lr egomaniacal desire to destroy their world usually
As someone who's always worked in the private sector, I have seen plenty of highly skilled and competent people laid off. Mass lay offs are tied to both performance and business lines. I've seen profitable business lines shut down because the company decided to go into a different direction. As someone who was laid off, I am sympathetic to what the fed employees are feeling and what they're going through. It's not a pain I wish on anyone.
The Clinton Administration laid off something like 350,000 feds back in the 1990s as part of budget cuts (funny how that is forgotten). The current administration is doubtlessly laying off many feds for ideological reasons, but many people agree with those reasons, not just one or two people. And there's probably some truth to that we have an excess of fed programs and some were absolutely controversial and a lot of, say, USAID funding was spent on controversial schemes. And some fed agencies and people within the agencies did act like an ideological opposition/resistance to administrations they didn't like rather than proper neutral civil servants. We saw the boasts on here quite often. Are these layoffs part of the Trump administration's reminding the agencies of their "proper" place? Yes, certainly.
The RIFs in the Clinton years took years of thoughtful planning to play out. There's little if any thought put into these current cuts done in a matter of months so it really can't be compared.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 07:39
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.
BARF is this elon?
Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.
What can’t you believe?
It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!
I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.
Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.
Good luck finding jobs. Companies are hiring h1b’s or offshoring.
Well, most people actually aren't getting fired in the private sector because of stupid reasons - most people aren't fired if they are super effective employees who are fulfilling the mission (and certainly aren't targettted when they BECAUSE they are those people) -- and most of the time the person in charge isn't doing it gleefully and telling them they were so terrible all along. Most of the time the firings aren't because the big boss wants to decimate the industry they are in
Spoken like a true fed. Incredible how you work for taxpayers yet know…nothing? about the real world? Just terrifying.
I've only worked in the private sector and never been a fed.
But By stupid reasons i mean because someone is trying to destroy their work and the impact it has on the world . People in the private sector aren't fired because of a large lr egomaniacal desire to destroy their world usually
As someone who's always worked in the private sector, I have seen plenty of highly skilled and competent people laid off. Mass lay offs are tied to both performance and business lines. I've seen profitable business lines shut down because the company decided to go into a different direction. As someone who was laid off, I am sympathetic to what the fed employees are feeling and what they're going through. It's not a pain I wish on anyone.
The Clinton Administration laid off something like 350,000 feds back in the 1990s as part of budget cuts (funny how that is forgotten). The current administration is doubtlessly laying off many feds for ideological reasons, but many people agree with those reasons, not just one or two people. And there's probably some truth to that we have an excess of fed programs and some were absolutely controversial and a lot of, say, USAID funding was spent on controversial schemes. And some fed agencies and people within the agencies did act like an ideological opposition/resistance to administrations they didn't like rather than proper neutral civil servants. We saw the boasts on here quite often. Are these layoffs part of the Trump administration's reminding the agencies of their "proper" place? Yes, certainly.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 07:12
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.
BARF is this elon?
Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.
What can’t you believe?
It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!
I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.
Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.
Good luck finding jobs. Companies are hiring h1b’s or offshoring.
Well, most people actually aren't getting fired in the private sector because of stupid reasons - most people aren't fired if they are super effective employees who are fulfilling the mission (and certainly aren't targettted when they BECAUSE they are those people) -- and most of the time the person in charge isn't doing it gleefully and telling them they were so terrible all along. Most of the time the firings aren't because the big boss wants to decimate the industry they are in
Spoken like a true fed. Incredible how you work for taxpayers yet know…nothing? about the real world? Just terrifying.
I've only worked in the private sector and never been a fed.
But By stupid reasons i mean because someone is trying to destroy their work and the impact it has on the world . People in the private sector aren't fired because of a large lr egomaniacal desire to destroy their world usually
Anonymous
07/13/2025 06:24
Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.
BARF is this elon?
Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.
What can’t you believe?
It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!
I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.
Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.
Good luck finding jobs. Companies are hiring h1b’s or offshoring.
Feds traded lower comp for job security. Now that security is gone, hiring will be much harder and attract candidates with less skills. Maybe that’s fine, they are cutting lots of govt functions, but everyone is looking for an exit and no Gen z will ever make a career in the Feds
I love how Feds keep repeating this but weep and wail like their life is over when they lose their job. Take that extremely valuable skill set to the private sector and make bank, bro!
Well the problem is that your supreme leader is also destroying the economy at the same time so private sector opportunities are not what they used to be. And of course many Feds that chose to go into the government are now older and you can feel free to ask ChatGPT about the stats around age discrimination.
But listen I’m sorry you apparently have been unable to work for the federal government or establish something stable for yourself.