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Anonymous wrote:The medications are interesting technology and nobody should be ashamed of using them.

But people acting like they are some kind of martyr still having overcome some huge obstacle while using the medications is compete BS. Same with acting like it’s some Herculean task - particularly having to actually do some form of exercise and eat real food.

It’s like the bozos at Ironman Mexico last year who cut the bike course, went to their hotel, and came back later to triumphantly run through the shoot as if they went under 10 hours. And there were multiples of them.

Don’t do that and don’t act like you’ve accomplished something, and nobody is going to care. At least normal people who don’t GAF what you are doing.

I have done both. It’s litteraly none of your business how people lose weight. It has zero bearing on your life. Why is that so hard to understand?

Can you read? You are right. It is “none of my business.” So in that sense, don’t act like the medications are something they aren’t and don’t broadcast efforts as if you have accomplished something. But doing that, somebody is literally “making it somebody else’s business”

I have accomplished plenty. I lost 60 lbs and don’t give a flying f if you think I took the easy way out. You are the one letting me live rent free in your head. It is a win win for me. 😘

Ok. I don’t know who you are, and nobody is living rent free anywhere. I was simply pointing out a recurrent theme here - people broadcasting about use of the drugs while simultaneously attempting to act as if it’s some form of an accomplishment.

Your personality disorder is so strong, you’ve managed to convince yourself of an achievement when you were just a passenger. Do you routinely commit plagiarism too?

NP to this thread here who wants to point out that literally no-one on this thread has done that, yet here you are going on and on for pages about it. People lose weight. People ask them why. They either tell them or they don't. People talk about them behind their backs. That is what this thread is about. It's not about someone saying "look at me I took a medicine and lost 50 lbs, you should be proud of me, it's an amazing accomplishment!". NOBODY has said that, at all. You made it up and now you're arguing about something that didn't happen.

I’m pretty sure there is at least one poster saying that.

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It's fine if a GLP1 helped you lose weight. But it is the easy way. If it bothers you to hear that, then that's on you. We all need help sometimes, but there's also nothing wrong with admitting you needed assistance. If you're going to enjoy someone commenting on your weightloss or how thin you look, then you also need to accept that people are going to wonder how you did it. These 2 things go together. If you feel shame about how you lost the weight, then that's your issue to reconcile.

Would you ever say:
"It's fine if an antidepressant helped you feel better. But it is the easy way. If it bothers you to hear that, then that's on you."

Why is it ok to take an antidepressant to help you if your brain chemistry works differently than other people's, but not OK to take a GLP1 if your hormones work differently than other people's. Same/same in my mind.

I would, and I have been both depressed and obese (not necessarily at the same times in my life).

Like I said, there's nothing wrong with taking things that help, but they ARE the easy way without trying other things first.

I'm sorry you and others are so triggered. Clearly I hit a nerve with the sensitivity.

The first bolding makes you an ass. The second makes you a narcissistic ass.

Would you say people taking another diabetes drug is taking the easy way out? Metformin, etc?

Also, what do you know what anybody has tried, and what they haven't?

Take a woman I know, now in her 40's. She's had a binge eating disorder since she was 15. She's tried it all, including meticulous meal planning and prep combined with working with a personal trainer 3 times per week. She did great (on the outside) until covid happened. She's now on Wegovy and doing well.
You though, only knowing that she's taking Wegovy, would say she's taking the easy way out.

This story doesn’t have the message you think it does.

What do you think it conveys? Please enlighten us.

Yes please.

That poster probably has issues with cancer patients using chemo, too. They should have done the hard work to not get cancer in the first place.

Imagine being so morally bankrupt that you need to compare using weight loss drugs to lose vanity pounds to cancer/chemo.

Vanity pounds? I’m the one who was prescribed the drug because of high BP and cholesterol but I’m positive that nothing, absolutely nothing, will convince your evil man jelous mind to leave us alone.

Evil and jealous. Ok, person who compares herself to a cancer patient.

That wasn’t me. But are you saying you’d be any different if thay analogy wasn’t made? Like you’d somehow be supportive of people trying to get healthy?

I have never once commented negatively on anyone taking a GLP1 who meets the indications on any thread ever. This thread is about vanity pounds per OP. I don’t think it’s cool to bring back eat disorders, so no I am not supportive of using a GLP for “cosmetic” reasons.

I guess in addition to being a hateful b you’re also lacking reading skills. Nowhere in OP did the poster mention vanity pounds. Quite the opposite actually. I welcome you to go back to page one and reread the OP.

Read the second post.

I did. I was a size 14 and now I’m a size 8 after losing 60 pounds. So I guess both you and OP are quite ignorant about how all of this works. Not that it’s stopping you from repeatedly spreading nonsense.

So you’ll retract your statement that OP wasn’t talking about cosmetics?

What cosmetics??? She said a lot of them went from size 12-14 to a size 4. That would require 60-70 lbs loss. That’s not cosmetics. Will you retract your dumb statements about this being vanity pounds. It litteraly meant I could get off high BP and cholesterol meds.

Quoting from OP, second post: “And the reason I mentioned upper middle class is because many did use it for somewhat cosmetic reasons- going from a 12/14 to a size 4.”

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Anonymous wrote:The medications are interesting technology and nobody should be ashamed of using them.

But people acting like they are some kind of martyr still having overcome some huge obstacle while using the medications is compete BS. Same with acting like it’s some Herculean task - particularly having to actually do some form of exercise and eat real food.

It’s like the bozos at Ironman Mexico last year who cut the bike course, went to their hotel, and came back later to triumphantly run through the shoot as if they went under 10 hours. And there were multiples of them.

Don’t do that and don’t act like you’ve accomplished something, and nobody is going to care. At least normal people who don’t GAF what you are doing.

I have done both. It’s litteraly none of your business how people lose weight. It has zero bearing on your life. Why is that so hard to understand?

Can you read? You are right. It is “none of my business.” So in that sense, don’t act like the medications are something they aren’t and don’t broadcast efforts as if you have accomplished something. But doing that, somebody is literally “making it somebody else’s business”

Wow. You are just mad that there is an easier way now.

Why do you prefer that people suffer?

Is this some sort of moral question for you?

Nobody is mad. I was just suggesting that acting like you have accomplished something is disingenuous. Don’t do that and I can assure you most people won’t care.

Do act like you’ve overcome some barrier when you were just a passenger is clowning.

Why do you care?

It’s a discussion forum. For discussion. Maybe we should just shut down discussion that you don’t agree with.

I was offering some perspective.

The fact that you have such a violent response to that demonstrates you’ve really over invested in this whole situation. Maybe go take a walk and calm down.

Again. People are defending personal choices they made to better their health vs you just being hateful for sport. You sound quite unhinged at this point.

I think that’s wonderful. Just don’t go around broadcasting it and acting like you’ve accomplished something. How hard is that?

Oh I’ve accomplished a hell of a lot. I’ll trust my doctor rather than hateful bi$$es like you. I lost 60 lbs, got off BP and cholesterol meds, feel great, don’t hurt. What did you accomplish? You’re a waste of oxygen

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The medications are interesting technology and nobody should be ashamed of using them.

But people acting like they are some kind of martyr still having overcome some huge obstacle while using the medications is compete BS. Same with acting like it’s some Herculean task - particularly having to actually do some form of exercise and eat real food.

It’s like the bozos at Ironman Mexico last year who cut the bike course, went to their hotel, and came back later to triumphantly run through the shoot as if they went under 10 hours. And there were multiples of them.

Don’t do that and don’t act like you’ve accomplished something, and nobody is going to care. At least normal people who don’t GAF what you are doing. [/quote]

I have done both. It’s litteraly none of your business how people lose weight. It has zero bearing on your life. Why is that so hard to understand?[/quote]

Can you read? You are right. It is “none of my business.” So in that sense, don’t act like the medications are something they aren’t and don’t broadcast efforts as if you have accomplished something. But doing that, somebody is literally “making it somebody else’s business”[/quote]

Wow. You are just mad that there is an easier way now.

Why do you prefer that people suffer?

Is this some sort of moral question for you?

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Nobody is mad. I was just suggesting that acting like you have accomplished something is disingenuous. Don’t do that and I can assure you most people won’t care.

Do act like you’ve overcome some barrier when you were just a passenger is clowning.

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It’s a discussion forum. For discussion. Maybe we should just shut down discussion that you don’t agree with.

I was offering some perspective.

The fact that you have such a violent response to that demonstrates you’ve really over invested in this whole situation. Maybe go take a walk and calm down. [/quote]

Again. People are defending personal choices they made to better their health vs you just being hateful for sport. You sound quite unhinged at this point.[/quote]

I think that’s wonderful. Just don’t go around broadcasting it and acting like you’ve accomplished something. How hard is that? [/quote]

Oh I’ve accomplished a hell of a lot. I’ll trust my doctor rather than hateful bi$$es like you. I lost 60 lbs, got off BP and cholesterol meds, feel great, don’t hurt. What did you accomplish? You’re a waste of oxygen.

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Anonymous wrote:The medications are interesting technology and nobody should be ashamed of using them.

But people acting like they are some kind of martyr still having overcome some huge obstacle while using the medications is compete BS. Same with acting like it’s some Herculean task - particularly having to actually do some form of exercise and eat real food.

It’s like the bozos at Ironman Mexico last year who cut the bike course, went to their hotel, and came back later to triumphantly run through the shoot as if they went under 10 hours. And there were multiples of them.

Don’t do that and don’t act like you’ve accomplished something, and nobody is going to care. At least normal people who don’t GAF what you are doing.

I have done both. It’s litteraly none of your business how people lose weight. It has zero bearing on your life. Why is that so hard to understand?

Can you read? You are right. It is “none of my business.” So in that sense, don’t act like the medications are something they aren’t and don’t broadcast efforts as if you have accomplished something. But doing that, somebody is literally “making it somebody else’s business”

I have accomplished plenty. I lost 60 lbs and don’t give a flying f if you think I took the easy way out. You are the one letting me live rent free in your head. It is a win win for me. 😘

Ok. I don’t know who you are, and nobody is living rent free anywhere. I was simply pointing out a recurrent theme here - people broadcasting about use of the drugs while simultaneously attempting to act as if it’s some form of an accomplishment.

Your personality disorder is so strong, you’ve managed to convince yourself of an achievement when you were just a passenger. Do you routinely commit plagiarism too?

NP to this thread here who wants to point out that literally no-one on this thread has done that, yet here you are going on and on for pages about it. People lose weight. People ask them why. They either tell them or they don't. People talk about them behind their backs. That is what this thread is about. It's not about someone saying "look at me I took a medicine and lost 50 lbs, you should be proud of me, it's an amazing accomplishment!". NOBODY has said that, at all. You made it up and now you're arguing about something that didn't happen.

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Anonymous wrote:The medications are interesting technology and nobody should be ashamed of using them.

But people acting like they are some kind of martyr still having overcome some huge obstacle while using the medications is compete BS. Same with acting like it’s some Herculean task - particularly having to actually do some form of exercise and eat real food.

It’s like the bozos at Ironman Mexico last year who cut the bike course, went to their hotel, and came back later to triumphantly run through the shoot as if they went under 10 hours. And there were multiples of them.

Don’t do that and don’t act like you’ve accomplished something, and nobody is going to care. At least normal people who don’t GAF what you are doing.

I have done both. It’s litteraly none of your business how people lose weight. It has zero bearing on your life. Why is that so hard to understand?

Can you read? You are right. It is “none of my business.” So in that sense, don’t act like the medications are something they aren’t and don’t broadcast efforts as if you have accomplished something. But doing that, somebody is literally “making it somebody else’s business”

Wow. You are just mad that there is an easier way now.

Why do you prefer that people suffer?

Is this some sort of moral question for you?

Nobody is mad. I was just suggesting that acting like you have accomplished something is disingenuous. Don’t do that and I can assure you most people won’t care.

Do act like you’ve overcome some barrier when you were just a passenger is clowning.

Why do you care?

It’s a discussion forum. For discussion. Maybe we should just shut down discussion that you don’t agree with.

I was offering some perspective.

The fact that you have such a violent response to that demonstrates you’ve really over invested in this whole situation. Maybe go take a walk and calm down.

Again. People are defending personal choices they made to better their health vs you just being hateful for sport. You sound quite unhinged at this point.

I think that’s wonderful. Just don’t go around broadcasting it and acting like you’ve accomplished something. How hard is that?

No, you don’t. For some reason, it makes you mad.

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Anonymous wrote:The medications are interesting technology and nobody should be ashamed of using them.

But people acting like they are some kind of martyr still having overcome some huge obstacle while using the medications is compete BS. Same with acting like it’s some Herculean task - particularly having to actually do some form of exercise and eat real food.

It’s like the bozos at Ironman Mexico last year who cut the bike course, went to their hotel, and came back later to triumphantly run through the shoot as if they went under 10 hours. And there were multiples of them.

Don’t do that and don’t act like you’ve accomplished something, and nobody is going to care. At least normal people who don’t GAF what you are doing.

I have done both. It’s litteraly none of your business how people lose weight. It has zero bearing on your life. Why is that so hard to understand?

Can you read? You are right. It is “none of my business.” So in that sense, don’t act like the medications are something they aren’t and don’t broadcast efforts as if you have accomplished something. But doing that, somebody is literally “making it somebody else’s business”

Wow. You are just mad that there is an easier way now.

Why do you prefer that people suffer?

Is this some sort of moral question for you?

Nobody is mad. I was just suggesting that acting like you have accomplished something is disingenuous. Don’t do that and I can assure you most people won’t care.

Do act like you’ve overcome some barrier when you were just a passenger is clowning.

Why do you care?

It’s a discussion forum. For discussion. Maybe we should just shut down discussion that you don’t agree with.

I was offering some perspective.

The fact that you have such a violent response to that demonstrates you’ve really over invested in this whole situation. Maybe go take a walk and calm down.

Again. People are defending personal choices they made to better their health vs you just being hateful for sport. You sound quite unhinged at this point.

I think that’s wonderful. Just don’t go around broadcasting it and acting like you’ve accomplished something. How hard is that?

Apparently, you care about people being “disingenuous “ and broadcasting their “accomplishment.” Why do you care? It’s a discussion. Discuss.

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Anonymous wrote:The medications are interesting technology and nobody should be ashamed of using them.

But people acting like they are some kind of martyr still having overcome some huge obstacle while using the medications is compete BS. Same with acting like it’s some Herculean task - particularly having to actually do some form of exercise and eat real food.

It’s like the bozos at Ironman Mexico last year who cut the bike course, went to their hotel, and came back later to triumphantly run through the shoot as if they went under 10 hours. And there were multiples of them.

Don’t do that and don’t act like you’ve accomplished something, and nobody is going to care. At least normal people who don’t GAF what you are doing.

I have done both. It’s litteraly none of your business how people lose weight. It has zero bearing on your life. Why is that so hard to understand?

Can you read? You are right. It is “none of my business.” So in that sense, don’t act like the medications are something they aren’t and don’t broadcast efforts as if you have accomplished something. But doing that, somebody is literally “making it somebody else’s business”

Wow. You are just mad that there is an easier way now.

Why do you prefer that people suffer?

Is this some sort of moral question for you?

Nobody is mad. I was just suggesting that acting like you have accomplished something is disingenuous. Don’t do that and I can assure you most people won’t care.

Do act like you’ve overcome some barrier when you were just a passenger is clowning.

Why do you care?

It’s a discussion forum. For discussion. Maybe we should just shut down discussion that you don’t agree with.

I was offering some perspective.

The fact that you have such a violent response to that demonstrates you’ve really over invested in this whole situation. Maybe go take a walk and calm down.

Again. People are defending personal choices they made to better their health vs you just being hateful for sport. You sound quite unhinged at this point.

I think that’s wonderful. Just don’t go around broadcasting it and acting like you’ve accomplished something. How hard is that?

Anonymous wrote:My friend is excessively skinny because of the drugs and all the subsequent plastic surgeries to rid herself of the excess skin, lifts, tucks, and what not. She also now makes fun of "fat" people, when none of us -- or anyone else I know of and I've known her my whole life -- ever made fun of her. We liked her for her, not for her body. That is why we talk about her now; she has changed in more ways than size and it is hard to deal with.

I am not fat. I am not skinny. I am in shape and right in the middle of where I am comfortable (5'8" and 145 lbs), but to her I am "borderline overweight" and should be watching what I eat. Her mind is now warped from all she's done in the past 18 - 24 months. She sits and stares seemingly disgustedly while we eat; it is disturbing.

You have posted about this before. If you don't like who she is now, then you shouldn't be her friend. It's still cruel to talk about someone behind their back. You're STILL in the wrong here.

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Anonymous wrote:The medications are interesting technology and nobody should be ashamed of using them.

But people acting like they are some kind of martyr still having overcome some huge obstacle while using the medications is compete BS. Same with acting like it’s some Herculean task - particularly having to actually do some form of exercise and eat real food.

It’s like the bozos at Ironman Mexico last year who cut the bike course, went to their hotel, and came back later to triumphantly run through the shoot as if they went under 10 hours. And there were multiples of them.

Don’t do that and don’t act like you’ve accomplished something, and nobody is going to care. At least normal people who don’t GAF what you are doing.

I have done both. It’s litteraly none of your business how people lose weight. It has zero bearing on your life. Why is that so hard to understand?

Can you read? You are right. It is “none of my business.” So in that sense, don’t act like the medications are something they aren’t and don’t broadcast efforts as if you have accomplished something. But doing that, somebody is literally “making it somebody else’s business”

Wow. You are just mad that there is an easier way now.

Why do you prefer that people suffer?

Is this some sort of moral question for you?

Nobody is mad. I was just suggesting that acting like you have accomplished something is disingenuous. Don’t do that and I can assure you most people won’t care.

Do act like you’ve overcome some barrier when you were just a passenger is clowning.

Why do you care?

It’s a discussion forum. For discussion. Maybe we should just shut down discussion that you don’t agree with.

I was offering some perspective.

The fact that you have such a violent response to that demonstrates you’ve really over invested in this whole situation. Maybe go take a walk and calm down.

Again. People are defending personal choices they made to better their health vs you just being hateful for sport. You sound quite unhinged at this point.

Anonymous wrote:I took a GLP for vanity weight loss. Went from under a 23 BMI to just over 19. Look and feel amazing, everyone is complimenting me, and many are asking what I did.

It IS the easy way. I tried for years to get back to my fighting weight through diet and exercise. Couldn't resist the junk food. GLPs have been a miracle. I can eat like a supermodel and never feel hungry or deprived. It's like a secret weapon. I've been relatively slim my whole life, but not without a ton of effort and suffering. I wish I'd had this magic all those years.

I have told no one. When people compliment me, I deflect. If they push and ask how I did it, I just say, "I've kind of struggled with weight and body image my whole life and I really hate the topic." And that shuts them down.

Women are mostly very mean (all you need to do is read this board, particularly threads on GLPs).

Most people who are on these medications are taking it to treat obesity, they have real medical condition. They're not taking it because they're vain like you, they're taking it because they need it.

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Anonymous wrote:The medications are interesting technology and nobody should be ashamed of using them.

But people acting like they are some kind of martyr still having overcome some huge obstacle while using the medications is compete BS. Same with acting like it’s some Herculean task - particularly having to actually do some form of exercise and eat real food.

It’s like the bozos at Ironman Mexico last year who cut the bike course, went to their hotel, and came back later to triumphantly run through the shoot as if they went under 10 hours. And there were multiples of them.

Don’t do that and don’t act like you’ve accomplished something, and nobody is going to care. At least normal people who don’t GAF what you are doing.

I have done both. It’s litteraly none of your business how people lose weight. It has zero bearing on your life. Why is that so hard to understand?

Can you read? You are right. It is “none of my business.” So in that sense, don’t act like the medications are something they aren’t and don’t broadcast efforts as if you have accomplished something. But doing that, somebody is literally “making it somebody else’s business”

I have accomplished plenty. I lost 60 lbs and don’t give a flying f if you think I took the easy way out. You are the one letting me live rent free in your head. It is a win win for me. 😘

Ok. I don’t know who you are, and nobody is living rent free anywhere. I was simply pointing out a recurrent theme here - people broadcasting about use of the drugs while simultaneously attempting to act as if it’s some form of an accomplishment.

Your personality disorder is so strong, you’ve managed to convince yourself of an achievement when you were just a passenger. Do you routinely commit plagiarism too?

You sound desperate and quite unwell.

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Anonymous wrote:I now think it’s weird that anyone who can’t afford it doesn’t try to get this miracle drug. The compounded version isn’t too expensive and works great. How in the world are there still fat or chubby politicians, for example? Get with it, people!

I wonder this too now when I see very overweight people who can clearly probably get insurance to cover the cost.

I know a bunch of people on it and they are all open about it. I am grateful because I'm interested in hearing about it.

Me too-- when I see people who are morbidly obese I wonder why their doctor hasn't put them on it, fully covered by insurance. It could be a profound improvement in quality (and quantity) of life.

I used the compounded version and it cost less than a gym membership and worked better. Now my knees don't hurt anymore! Joint pain was one of the things keeping me from exercising more, and the joint pain was exacerbated by the extra weight. I lost 20 pounds effortlessly in six months, I feel better, and my clothes fit better. (The real trigger to start the drug was that I was on the verge of needing to buy all new stuff and I hate shopping). I went off it and have kept the weight off for six months, because now I can exercise, and very importantly, it recalibrated my understanding of hunger and what I need. My urge to snack is way down. I am more easily satiated.

I was extremely lucky in the side effects, too. My bestie had significant nausea and constipation. I had only the mildest of queasiness the day I took it, and then nothing.

I'm an evangelist. I'll tell anyone. If someone accuses me of being lazy or taking the easy way out, I'll ask them if they wash all their clothes by hand in the river.

I really love how this thread has pivoted from one end of the spectrum in terms of judgment to the other. First we judge people for taking this medication, now we're judging them for not taking the medication. Which one is it? Which one do you disapprove of, ladies? Make up your nasty little minds.

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I wonder this too now when I see very overweight people who can clearly probably get insurance to cover the cost.

I know a bunch of people on it and they are all open about it. I am grateful because I'm interested in hearing about it.

Most insurance companies don't cover this medication, PP. Some of us can't afford it, not even the compounded stuff which still costs $300/month. My husband is unemployed, we are barely getting by. But thanks for judgment, b_ch.

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I have never seen more than 1 or 2 UMC 12/14s. Is this in the South?

You have got to be kidding me. You don’t live in the DC area, do you?