Anonymous
04/03/2025 11:32
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.
The stories are not “made up.” He was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that finding was reaffirmed after an appeal.
He has a prominent role in the MS-13 gang’s criminal activities in Prince George’s county.
My county; my CHILDREN, are safer as a result of this confirmed gang member being removed to his home country ( he was not deported).
I am interested in finding out the truth here. Can you please cite sources?
https://wjla.com/news/local/washington-dc-ice-deportation-el-salvador-jail-cecot-worlds-notorious-prison-us-united-states-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-error-detained-court-documents-beltsville-maryland-prince-georges-county-man
The government saying something doesn't make it true. Please, tell me you are not simply repeating this paragraph.
However, the government said he was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that was reaffirmed after an appeal. They also said in a 2019 filing that the source that accused Abrego Garcia of being in MS-13 was “proven and reliable.”
The linked article merely states what the government is now arguing to cover up for an egregious mistake. The lawyers are asking for evidence. I thought you were saying that something had actually been proven in a court of law.
Please remember that the presumption of innocence is a fundamental principle in the United States. The government saying he's a danger when it has every incentive to lie is not proof.
Look, despite what people are arguing NO ONE wants killers on the street. We all want them in jail. But - I thought - we all want innocent people out of jail.
These are among the reasons that the US guarantees due process to EVERYONE, citizen or not, undocumented or protected.
You do not have a presumption of innocence in immigration hearings.
Anonymous
04/03/2025 11:31
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:No, he did not have a legal right to remain in the US. He could have been deported anywhere else. Withholding of removal, was only about removal to El Salvador.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.
He was legal.
No he was not. He was here illegally. He had protected status,but that’s not the same c
You remind me of Karoline Leavitt. It is not a debate strategy to just say the opposite of the truth and then move on. It isn't convincing at all.
The 2019 "withholding of removal" granted by an immigration judge provided him legal protection from deportation.
What do you think this means?
It means that under the terms of that ruling, he had the legal right to remain in the U.S., protected from being sent back to El Salvador.
At some point, his asylum application was denied.
*An immigration judge in 2019 granted him protection from being deported back to El Salvador, which ICE did not challenge and still stands
*He had a legal work permit issued by the Department of Homeland Security
In other words, he had a legal right to be in the US.
If he is a danger and committing crimes, take him to court. Put him in jail. Or revoke his status.
This is the guy you are totally comfortable having deported... from CASA website:
‘Kilmar is an excellent father; he has always been there for our three children and all of their needs. Two of them are on the autism spectrum, and our third has epilepsy. He has been the main provider of our household and the love of my life for over seven years. Since our family has been separated, I have been devastated and confused. I lost my life partner, my children lost their father, and all of our family, neighbors, co-workers, and friends have been devastated due to this unjust family separation.’
Anonymous
04/03/2025 11:15
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.
The stories are not “made up.” He was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that finding was reaffirmed after an appeal.
He has a prominent role in the MS-13 gang’s criminal activities in Prince George’s county.
My county; my CHILDREN, are safer as a result of this confirmed gang member being removed to his home country ( he was not deported).
I am interested in finding out the truth here. Can you please cite sources?
https://wjla.com/news/local/washington-dc-ice-deportation-el-salvador-jail-cecot-worlds-notorious-prison-us-united-states-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-error-detained-court-documents-beltsville-maryland-prince-georges-county-man
The government saying something doesn't make it true. Please, tell me you are not simply repeating this paragraph.
However, the government said he was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that was reaffirmed after an appeal. They also said in a 2019 filing that the source that accused Abrego Garcia of being in MS-13 was “proven and reliable.”
The linked article merely states what the government is now arguing to cover up for an egregious mistake. The lawyers are asking for evidence. I thought you were saying that something had actually been proven in a court of law.
Please remember that the presumption of innocence is a fundamental principle in the United States. The government saying he's a danger when it has every incentive to lie is not proof.
Look, despite what people are arguing NO ONE wants killers on the street. We all want them in jail. But - I thought - we all want innocent people out of jail.
These are among the reasons that the US guarantees due process to EVERYONE, citizen or not, undocumented or protected.
Anonymous
04/03/2025 11:07
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
No, he did not have a legal right to remain in the US. He could have been deported anywhere else. Withholding of removal, was only about removal to El Salvador.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.
He was legal.
No he was not. He was here illegally. He had protected status,but that’s not the same c
You remind me of Karoline Leavitt. It is not a debate strategy to just say the opposite of the truth and then move on. It isn't convincing at all.
The 2019 "withholding of removal" granted by an immigration judge provided him legal protection from deportation.
What do you think this means?
It means that under the terms of that ruling, he had the legal right to remain in the U.S., protected from being sent back to El Salvador.
At some point, his asylum application was denied.
Anonymous
04/03/2025 11:05
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
My understanding is he met the criteria for deportation, just not to El Salvador.
Anonymous
04/03/2025 10:59
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.
The stories are not “made up.” He was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that finding was reaffirmed after an appeal.
He has a prominent role in the MS-13 gang’s criminal activities in Prince George’s county.
My county; my CHILDREN, are safer as a result of this confirmed gang member being removed to his home country ( he was not deported).
I am interested in finding out the truth here. Can you please cite sources?
https://wjla.com/news/local/washington-dc-ice-deportation-el-salvador-jail-cecot-worlds-notorious-prison-us-united-states-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-error-detained-court-documents-beltsville-maryland-prince-georges-county-man
Anonymous
04/03/2025 10:49
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.
The stories are not “made up.” He was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that finding was reaffirmed after an appeal.
He has a prominent role in the MS-13 gang’s criminal activities in Prince George’s county.
My county; my CHILDREN, are safer as a result of this confirmed gang member being removed to his home country ( he was not deported).
I am interested in finding out the truth here. Can you please cite sources?
Anonymous
04/03/2025 10:45
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.
The stories are not “made up.” He was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that finding was reaffirmed after an appeal.
He has a prominent role in the MS-13 gang’s criminal activities in Prince George’s county.
My county; my CHILDREN, are safer as a result of this confirmed gang member being removed to his home country ( he was not deported).
Anonymous
04/03/2025 08:52
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.
He was legal.
No he was not. He was here illegally. He had protected status,but that’s not the same c
The audacity to put these two sentences together is both hilarious and sad.
Anonymous
04/03/2025 08:46
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.
He was legal.
No he was not. He was here illegally. He had protected status,but that’s not the same c
You remind me of Karoline Leavitt. It is not a debate strategy to just say the opposite of the truth and then move on. It isn't convincing at all.
The 2019 "withholding of removal" granted by an immigration judge provided him legal protection from deportation.
What do you think this means?
It means that under the terms of that ruling, he had the legal right to remain in the U.S., protected from being sent back to El Salvador.
Anonymous
04/03/2025 00:12
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:I see now it seems he had a final order of removal . I really don’t understand the knee jerk reactions
take for instance Like the people who do the co ops to pay for bond. Regular def ended in the us being held in custody. Charities pay for bond for anyone regardless of the crime alleged. They do it on a rotating and lottery
. .
that is so ignorant. Actual victims of crimes exist. These co-op bond release people place their “high values” over the safety of others in the community. I am pretty sure these people took over and took reigns of the non-Potus- party. I just can’t get behind this “forced fantasy of goodness” of the world!
These folks have orders in place
No, he didn't. He had a waiver. He was here legally. He was kidnapped by the Trusk regime and sent out of the US to a foreign prison with no due process. Sickening that you'd think this is OK. Sick. Sick. Sick.
Anonymous
04/03/2025 00:11
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:He was due for removal anyways and he is back at his home country. What's the problem? His own govt can handle it.
No, he wasn't. He had a waiver to stay in the US with his wife and children. Keep up.
Anonymous
04/02/2025 23:55
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.
He was legal.
No he was not. He was here illegally. He had protected status,but that’s not the same c
Anonymous
04/02/2025 23:25
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.
He was legal.
Anonymous
04/02/2025 23:25
Subject: Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation
Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.
What about the people here legally who are being caught in this incompetent dragnet woven by dipshits like Rubio, Noem, and Stephen Miller?
Separately, I sincerely wish my mom had a pupusa restaurant.