Anonymous
Post 06/10/2025 22:14     Subject: Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team
I’m in HS and our EML counselor is there every day. Sees students once if not more times a week. Positive changes in behavior and work habits. Massive changes in attendance! The at-risk students who started to see her come to school now. A couple who almost dropped out graduated- that was a miracle. They are absolutely providing a valuable service especially at the HS level where it’s easy to lose kids due to many pull factors.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2025 15:18     Subject: Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good riddance to the EML program. I am a social worker with the county and know 3 EMO counselors well there who do nothing and take advantage of being “out in the field” traveling in between schools or doing “home visits” but really they are not working and taking advantage of poor supervisory management. None of them are held accountable.

They are selfish and doing a disservice to our students. These funds are better placed elsewhere

Tons of corruption and fraud. Zero oversight.


Base pay for EML was $81,000 last year, probably higher with cost of living increase now…

CPS Social Workers don’t even get that much and are held to much higher standards.

These EML “Counselors” don’t even need to be licensed counselors/therapists, so long as they have a master’s in therapy/psych related field. In contrast to actual therapists/counselors, you need your LMSW, LCSW, LCPC, etc. These EML counselors do not require this and are the ones supposedly helping our most vulnerable population of students in school but have nothing to show for it.



Some have received their LCSW-C in their current positions.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2025 13:03     Subject: Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just heard that this cut isn't happening anymore? Is that true? Those positions were reinstated.


As an ELD (ESOL) teacher, I am glad for this. Some of these counselors were useless, but others were life-savers.

It's just as you find in many workplaces with employee quality.


Our EML counselor would never tell us his day he was assigned to our school. He just showed up randomly. I think it's a valuable service that is needed but for those that don't work, there is no accountability or oversight by their supervisor
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2025 12:06     Subject: Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team
Anonymous wrote:I just heard that this cut isn't happening anymore? Is that true? Those positions were reinstated.


As an ELD (ESOL) teacher, I am glad for this. Some of these counselors were useless, but others were life-savers.

It's just as you find in many workplaces with employee quality.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2025 05:05     Subject: Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team
I just heard that this cut isn't happening anymore? Is that true? Those positions were reinstated.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2025 20:40     Subject: Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team
Anonymous wrote:If your kid needs a therapeutic counselor they should seek that outside the school.


You have no idea how this works.

-MCPS teacher
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2025 15:53     Subject: Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good riddance to the EML program. I am a social worker with the county and know 3 EMO counselors well there who do nothing and take advantage of being “out in the field” traveling in between schools or doing “home visits” but really they are not working and taking advantage of poor supervisory management. None of them are held accountable.

They are selfish and doing a disservice to our students. These funds are better placed elsewhere

Tons of corruption and fraud. Zero oversight.


Base pay for EML was $81,000 last year, probably higher with cost of living increase now…

CPS Social Workers don’t even get that much and are held to much higher standards.

These EML “Counselors” don’t even need to be licensed counselors/therapists, so long as they have a master’s in therapy/psych related field. In contrast to actual therapists/counselors, you need your LMSW, LCSW, LCPC, etc. These EML counselors do not require this and are the ones supposedly helping our most vulnerable population of students in school but have nothing to show for it.



Cps workers have much longer hours if they do their jobs, less pay and worse benefits.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2025 15:41     Subject: Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This county wants to provide everything for everyone. This is a fantastic goal but completely unrealistic. We need to trim expenses- cutting these non essentials makes sense.


If kids don't have the basics they cannot learn.


But MCPS goal is to provide an EDUCATION. Let MCPS focus on that and allow the County and they myriad of publicly funded non-profits to provide healthcare.


There is not a ton of health care. Call one of these places and try to get an appointment.


That is not MCPS' problem to fix. Take it up with your County Council. Maybe they can implement a higher bag tax to pay for better access to health care for undocumented EML students.


How interesting that you added the word undocumented?


How many of them are undocumented? Of course, that's interesting. And part of the discussion.


It is none of our business if children are documented or not. Services and instruction are available for all children

News Flash: Anything that taxpayers are funding, actually IS our business. No one wants identifying details, but we certainly do have a RIGHT to know what percentage of OUR money is used to support anyone who has no legal status to be here.



Ok Karen
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2025 15:06     Subject: Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This county wants to provide everything for everyone. This is a fantastic goal but completely unrealistic. We need to trim expenses- cutting these non essentials makes sense.


If kids don't have the basics they cannot learn.


But MCPS goal is to provide an EDUCATION. Let MCPS focus on that and allow the County and they myriad of publicly funded non-profits to provide healthcare.


There is not a ton of health care. Call one of these places and try to get an appointment.


That is not MCPS' problem to fix. Take it up with your County Council. Maybe they can implement a higher bag tax to pay for better access to health care for undocumented EML students.


How interesting that you added the word undocumented?


How many of them are undocumented? Of course, that's interesting. And part of the discussion.


It is none of our business if children are documented or not. Services and instruction are available for all children

News Flash: Anything that taxpayers are funding, actually IS our business. No one wants identifying details, but we certainly do have a RIGHT to know what percentage of OUR money is used to support anyone who has no legal status to be here.



+1
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2025 10:21     Subject: Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This county wants to provide everything for everyone. This is a fantastic goal but completely unrealistic. We need to trim expenses- cutting these non essentials makes sense.


If kids don't have the basics they cannot learn.


But MCPS goal is to provide an EDUCATION. Let MCPS focus on that and allow the County and they myriad of publicly funded non-profits to provide healthcare.


There is not a ton of health care. Call one of these places and try to get an appointment.


That is not MCPS' problem to fix. Take it up with your County Council. Maybe they can implement a higher bag tax to pay for better access to health care for undocumented EML students.


How interesting that you added the word undocumented?


How many of them are undocumented? Of course, that's interesting. And part of the discussion.


It is none of our business if children are documented or not. Services and instruction are available for all children

News Flash: Anything that taxpayers are funding, actually IS our business. No one wants identifying details, but we certainly do have a RIGHT to know what percentage of OUR money is used to support anyone who has no legal status to be here.

Anonymous
Post 06/04/2025 15:24     Subject: Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team
There is not enough money to fund every program that we want. Some things have to be cut. This is a good one to cut
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2025 13:40     Subject: Cuts to MCPS EML Therapeutic Counseling Team
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good riddance to the EML program. I am a social worker with the county and know 3 EMO counselors well there who do nothing and take advantage of being “out in the field” traveling in between schools or doing “home visits” but really they are not working and taking advantage of poor supervisory management. None of them are held accountable.

They are selfish and doing a disservice to our students. These funds are better placed elsewhere

Tons of corruption and fraud. Zero oversight.


Base pay for EML was $81,000 last year, probably higher with cost of living increase now…

CPS Social Workers don’t even get that much and are held to much higher standards.

These EML “Counselors” don’t even need to be licensed counselors/therapists, so long as they have a master’s in therapy/psych related field. In contrast to actual therapists/counselors, you need your LMSW, LCSW, LCPC, etc. These EML counselors do not require this and are the ones supposedly helping our most vulnerable population of students in school but have nothing to show for it.