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Anonymous wrote:So the average employee where I am is mid-40s making $80k/year. Where's the waste, fraud, and abuse again?

That’s a ton of money! Especially for people who mostly work from home. Eliminating tens of thousands of positions at $80K a pop is a huge savings. You Feds really are out of touch. That is a huge amount of money for the average American in flyover country. Just wow.

Just wow that you don't think occupation, education, regional cost of living, and affordability of child care have anything to do with these stats.

I was a fed in the 90s. I reached GS-13 by late 20s. I left government service in part because I couldn't afford a house in the town where I lived along the metro line.

People who resent feds don't want anyone to have a better life than their own. They don't think feds are deserving, mostly because of anti-government beliefs. We know!

Everything plays badly in flyover country because the media thrives on outrage. That's not new either.

Also consider that premium undergrads just out of school are in that same $80K-$100K wage range. With very little work experience.

There's a strong trend of anti-education and anti-expertise among MAGA types. My chronically unemployed MAGA brother in law openly bullied my husband when he was admitted to college, and then mocked my husband's engineering PhD. He'd be the first to complain about how unfair it is that my husband makes a decent salary working for the US military.

These MAGA types just like my BIL, they are just losers who couldn't cut it in school and couldn't make anything of their lives (BIL got fired from driving a truck multiple times). So now they want to tear down everyone else too.

And I'd also bet, like BIL, they collect their disability checks.

I can see why your BIL doesn’t like you when you speak about him in such terms. Just like Trump voters resent Federal employees who express the sentiments evident in this thread.

My BIL is a nasty racist bully. He literally punched my husband when he announced he was going to college. I don't care if MAGA types like him like me.

And yes, you MAGA guys are all like him, big bullies who want to destroy people out of their own pathetic inadequacy.

Hmm, I think there’s more to this story. Hope you get help for your anger.

I like that you're telling people to get help with anger when you're burning down the government to "own the libs". All you guys have is anger.

Nope. I have felt on top of the world since November 5 . But let’s not make this political. It’s just business.

What a loser you are. Suck a sad life.

What are those numbers that are assigned to each agency? For example, GSA is 85, while General Printing Office is 3.

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Anonymous wrote:So the average employee where I am is mid-40s making $80k/year. Where's the waste, fraud, and abuse again?

That’s a ton of money! Especially for people who mostly work from home. Eliminating tens of thousands of positions at $80K a pop is a huge savings. You Feds really are out of touch. That is a huge amount of money for the average American in flyover country. Just wow.

Cool story, bro. Come back to us when your baby dies from an unsafe drug or your should-have-been-recalled car catches fire or you’re puking your guts out from an undisclosed E. coli outbreak. You really think people are being paid to do nothing?

Yes, yes you’ve said this in other threads. Scare tactics seem to be your forte. I doubt you perform either of these functions. Some Feds will stay of course, but the vast majority do not perform these essential functions from their living rooms.

NP. I am in the private sector. I was a fed at a regulatory agency for 8 years in the pre-laptop, "486 desktop" era. Everything I did at my job in the office could have been done from home with a computer and a phone. Even back then, we could take some work home to do when needed without having a laptop (particularly reading and editing).

I work in a white collar job for a manufacturing company now. We were full work from home during the pandemic. Here is a list of just some of the jobs that can be 100% done from home:

Product design
Most engineering done on computer
Market research/industry analysis
Project management of teams
IT
HR
Sales
Procurement/supplier relations
Customer relations
Quality analysis based on survey data
PR
Social media & websites
Advertising
Public policy
Some kinds of R&D

We are currently 3 days per week RTO and 2 work from home. Our management believes productivity is fostered by being in office. Many disagree, but we understand that management decides.

For me, being in office is less productive now than in olden times when assigned desks were still possible. And cube walls blocked visual distractions.

Much of the complaining about work from home seems to come from people who just don't believe wfh can be productive. The pandemic gave an excellent natural experiment that proved it can work. And some complaining comes from people who are just jealous that others might have it better. With respect to feds, some people just hate government so much, they criticize any stats or benefits as "too much". They only admit the legitimacy of the parts of government that directly benefit them or match their ideologies. It's mean-spirited and narrow-minded.

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Anonymous wrote:They're straight up going to celebrate another Timothy McVeigh at this point. Ghouls.

I was just saying this to a friend. This is dangerous. Think about folks like Luigi.

I was in Politics and Prose when the Comet Pizza shooting happened. I know first hand how dangerous this right wing stuff is. They're absolutely going to get someone killed.

Anonymous wrote:How do you know they’re actually going to be doxxing individuals?

The Heritage Foundation started doxxing 'DEI' employees on their "watchlist" sites. The factors for being included on their hit list were things like donating to D political groups, using pronouns in email, or posting liberal views on social media. DOGE might not do the doxxing directly on their website but they can certainly provide specific information to right-wing hit sites.

Can anyone find the DOGE salaries on this site? I’m not seeing them. Wonder why?

Anonymous wrote:For a bunch of tech "geniuses", that is the most amature looking website I have ever seen. SAD.

+ 5 trillion

How do you know they’re actually going to be doxxing individuals?

Are they going to actually post identifying names to go with the salaries? I know it’s already available online if someone wants to look it up in a database, but based on the rhetoric they are spreading this feels like a hit list.

Anonymous wrote:They need to also include a breakdown of degrees held.

I’m an attorney with 15 years experience making around 150k. I hardly think that is some wildly outlandish salary for a mid-career attorney. Hell I make a lot less than the tech bros straight out of college.

They don't care, any amount of money paid to a federal employee is considered waste and abuse. These people complain about paying national park rangers and forestry people's salaries and those folks start at GS 5.

Anonymous wrote:They're straight up going to celebrate another Timothy McVeigh at this point. Ghouls.

I was just saying this to a friend. This is dangerous. Think about folks like Luigi.

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Anonymous wrote:Feds might not be aware of just how much hate and anger is being directed their way. If they are going to dox your details then you should expect extremists to show up at your house at some point. Probably a good idea to start thinking about personal protection.

Who’s directing the hate?

Elon Musk definitely by calling Feds criminals, stating without evidence that they're taking kickbacks. He also doxxed the daughter of the judge who ruled against the illegal Trump unlawful funding freeze on federal payments. That's an attack on the judiciary.

They need to also include a breakdown of degrees held.

I’m an attorney with 15 years experience making around 150k. I hardly think that is some wildly outlandish salary for a mid-career attorney. Hell I make a lot less than the tech bros straight out of college.

They're straight up going to celebrate another Timothy McVeigh at this point. Ghouls.

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Anonymous wrote:So the average employee where I am is mid-40s making $80k/year. Where's the waste, fraud, and abuse again?

That’s a ton of money! Especially for people who mostly work from home. Eliminating tens of thousands of positions at $80K a pop is a huge savings. You Feds really are out of touch. That is a huge amount of money for the average American in flyover country. Just wow.

Feds don’t mostly work from home. Most work in the office. And how is it out of touch?

It’s out of touch to act like an $80K/year salary is nothing and shouldn’t be a target for government waste investigations. That was my point.

I didn't say it was nothing, I said it wasn't wasteful. Do you think $80k is an unreasonable salary for a 47 year old who is 2-3 decades into their career? What do you make?

Also most of my agency is in the field, can't WFH, and outside DC. But try again.